Finished with Superdrol, AMAZING RESULTS

[gogo]

Ok guys I have a roll of nickles. Everyone get in line. Igor55 I need you at the front of the line facing the others. One at a time approach Igor55 and I'll place a nickle in his ear. You can watch his teeth fold and insert your willy wacker between his lip and gum.

Note: I only have one roll of nickles at this time so be patient as I have someone on the way back from a bank with more

Tough

if i insert two nickles do i get a happy ending?

 

[NEW_IN_THE_GAME]

If I use a quarter will he deep throat. Fuck goving him the info he needs. I mean he obviously took them without reading into.

 

[Igor55]

First off I agree with you....we should help, but he refuses to listen and argues with anyone who tries to help him.....and this isnt the first time, he does this all the time.

Secondly taking steroids will f-uk him up, not doing PCT wrong.....so we can't help him now...it's too late.


Case and point

Alrite first off motherfucker, I could care less what you think foreman, to me your a complete idiot. I don't care what you have to say. All you other guys don't help one bit. All you do is just flame and talk mad shit. There is nothing for me to listen to considering all you do is fucken flame. Don't worry bout what I do to my body, your not my parents So i dont wanna fucken hear it ok. I am asking a simple question. Stop going so in debt with it, and just fucken answer it. At first i tried being a nice guy. But now I see thats impossible with you trash talking fucks.
I appoligize to the people who PM'ed and helped me. To all the trash talkers, Fuck you, all you like to do is argue. Once one guys brings up something everyone else just tags along with him. Now all you gonna do is flame this post even more, so go ahead motherfuckers.

Fuck you.

 

[NEW_IN_THE_GAME]

Ohh big bad mutha fucker. You think you are something. A lazy faggot assed 18 year old, that was too lazy and too impatient to lift for a few years, and actually see some real gains. Has to go this route. I am ashamed to even say I have talked to you. I have to say you talk a big game. But never I mean never let your mouth write a check your ass cant cash. I mean come on, you are not going to keep very manygains. In 4 weeks by gaining 30 poundson your bench. You could have done that with amino acids, creatine, and some extra calories. I know I have done it many many times. So stop while you are ahead ok, start over, breathe woosaw, and shut the fuck up.

 

[Igor55]

Ohh big bad mutha fucker. You think you are something. A lazy faggot assed 18 year old, that was too lazy and too impatient to lift for a few years, and actually see some real gains. Has to go this route. I am ashamed to even say I have talked to you. I have to say you talk a big game. But never I mean never let your mouth write a check your ass cant cash. I mean come on, you are not going to keep very manygains. In 4 weeks by gaining 30 poundson your bench. You could have done that with amino acids, creatine, and some extra calories. I know I have done it many many times. So stop while you are ahead ok, start over, breathe woosaw, and shut the fuck up.

First off it was about 45-50lbs gain on bench. And creatine, No2 and all that shit don't work for me. I still have yet to try creatine estyr. But chances are it wont work. I've tried creatine 2 times. Cell Tech first off. I drank about 2 gallons of water a day and did load. Used a 7lb tub i think. No gains...weird thing was my gains started going up again after i got off the creatine. Second time around i tried flat out creatine without the sugar additives. So I drank it with sugar-filled juices for better absorption. After a month on that. Gains were same as if I wasnt on the shit. NO2 just gave me pumps, no gains.

For the record your 18 too mothafucka according to your sig.

 

[GFR]

Alrite first off motherfucker, I could care less what you think foreman, to me your a complete idiot. I don't care what you have to say. All you other guys don't help one bit. All you do is just flame and talk mad shit. There is nothing for me to listen to considering all you do is fucken flame. Don't worry bout what I do to my body, your not my parents So i dont wanna fucken hear it ok. I am asking a simple question. Stop going so in debt with it, and just fucken answer it. At first i tried being a nice guy. But now I see thats impossible with you trash talking fucks.
I appoligize to the people who PM'ed and helped me. To all the trash talkers, Fuck you, all you like to do is argue. Once one guys brings up something everyone else just tags along with him. Now all you gonna do is flame this post even more, so go ahead motherfuckers.

Fuck you.

Idiot: a 17 year old taking steroids and bitching at all the people who want to help them from doing more damage to their body.

So that would be you shit head......Pathetic.

 

[brogers]

Less training volume, lots of good clean foods.

While I don't neccesarily agree with what you've done (or are doing), I don't think you will be "fucked up" like everyone says. The body is very, very resilient.

Save the roids for later, and I'd stop messing with the designer orals if you like having remotely healthy cholesterol and triglyceride levels.

 

[Curlingcadys]

First off it was about 45-50lbs gain on bench. And creatine, No2 and all that shit don't work for me. I still have yet to try creatine estyr. But chances are it wont work. I've tried creatine 2 times. Cell Tech first off. I drank about 2 gallons of water a day and did load. Used a 7lb tub i think. No gains...weird thing was my gains started going up again after i got off the creatine. Second time around i tried flat out creatine without the sugar additives. So I drank it with sugar-filled juices for better absorption. After a month on that. Gains were same as if I wasnt on the shit. NO2 just gave me pumps, no gains.

For the record your 18 too mothafucka according to your sig.

BEWARE!!

 

[Ghost_Dog]

BEWARE!!

True Story, the cowl hood on the mustang alone adds 50 internet HP.

 

[MeLo]

Alrite first off motherfucker, I could care less what you think foreman, to me your a complete idiot. I don't care what you have to say. All you other guys don't help one bit. All you do is just flame and talk mad shit. There is nothing for me to listen to considering all you do is fucken flame. Don't worry bout what I do to my body, your not my parents So i dont wanna fucken hear it ok. I am asking a simple question. Stop going so in debt with it, and just fucken answer it. At first i tried being a nice guy. But now I see thats impossible with you trash talking fucks.
I appoligize to the people who PM'ed and helped me. To all the trash talkers, Fuck you, all you like to do is argue. Once one guys brings up something everyone else just tags along with him. Now all you gonna do is flame this post even more, so go ahead motherfuckers.

Fuck you.

I won't flame you. The damage(probably) had already been done. I will just tell you what you want to know.

For PCT, you definitely need Nolva. That is Nolvadex(tamoxifen citrate), not the Novedex by Gaspari Nutrition.

This is probably the recommended PCT for your Superdrol:

pct day 1: nolva 60mg + atd 25mg
pct day 2: nolva 40mg + atd 50mg
pct day 3: nolva 20mg + atd 75mg
pct day 4-7: atd 75mg + 1.5g fenu + 100mg dhea
pct day 8-14: atd 50mg + 2g fenu + 75mg dhea
pct day 15-21: atd 25mg + 2.5g fenu + 50mg dhea
pct days 22-28: atd 25mg + 3g fenu + 25mg dhea

personally i think nolva + clomid is overkill for a superdrol only cycle.

Remember to drop the nolva after 3 or 4 days. I read that it is very hepatoxic. Coming off any methly-product cycle, i do not think it is wise to continue it for prolonged periods.

 

[MeLo]

On a side note, this is my advice for you.

Do not, DO NOT attempt another cycle like this until you are fully developed like 20 or 21. Hormones are high for you right now

It would be best now adding extra efas(peanut butter,i'm sure you will like them) and supplement with some ZMA. On top of a diet high in clean calories, and high amounts of protein and carbohydrate.

If you state that you do not progress faster on things like creatine/NO2, then alright. Save your money on those supplements TO BUY MORE FOOD!!!

At 18, maybe i can show you a simple equation like this.

Diet + training + rest = Prohormones + training + diet + rest

Diet + training + rest + supplements(non hormonal) > Prohormones + diet + training + rest

Diet + training + rest > Prohormones + Steriods + Special designer steriods + Supplements

If you work that equation out carefully, prohormones and steriods dont do much shit for you at this age( test. level can only be so high) besides shutting your natural test producing ability down.

 

[FishOrCutBait]

I would like to open this statement with a question.

When, in your mind, did you think that it would be a good idea to give crap to the most knowledgeable members of this board? Foreman would be one of the first people I would ask for help, not the first person I'd bawl out. You've made a great mistake, in that, he could have given you some very insightful information into the world of PCT, and you decided to freak out after they scolded you for committing the first steroid no-no.

second off, DID YOU REALLY THINK THAT THEY WOULDNT FLAME THE HOLY HELL OUT OF YOU?!!?!?!?

third, WHEN DID THE THOUGHT CROSS YOUR MIND THAT ANABOLIC STEROIDS WERE THE ANSWER?!

annnndddd... thats pretty much it. good luck.

 

[Tha Don]

do you realise the effects of steroids are temporary? its all downhill from here i'm afraid, steroids at 18? now thats sad, do you think anyone is impressed with how big your muscles are? they'll always be someone twice as big as you

 

[NEW_IN_THE_GAME]

First off igor, I know I am 18 mutha fuckur. I told you that. Though my knowledge must be totally excelled compared to yours on the topic of working out, and what to take. I mean You could have used 2500mg tribulus, zma at bed, 4g aakg 3 times a day, and creatine. PLus do not forget amino acid pills several times throughout the day, along with fish oil caps. And glutamine and taurine. Glutamine is the most abundant amino acid in the human body, and taurine is the second most abundant. Do you know you may have messed yourself up. The reason you saw gains after the creatine is becasue that was when you finally quite taking it, it was the same time your body reacted to it. And nitric oxide supps only work if you take enough of them. I take 4g akkg powder 3-4 times a day. 5g creatine 2x a day, 5g glutamine 4 times a day, fish caps(6-8)2x a day, taurine 3-4g 2-3 times a day. and amino acid powder 10g 4-5 timesa day. So do this and stay fro mthat shit.

 

[Igor55]

First off igor, I know I am 18 mutha fuckur. I told you that. Though my knowledge must be totally excelled compared to yours on the topic of working out, and what to take. I mean You could have used 2500mg tribulus, zma at bed, 4g aakg 3 times a day, and creatine. PLus do not forget amino acid pills several times throughout the day, along with fish oil caps. And glutamine and taurine. Glutamine is the most abundant amino acid in the human body, and taurine is the second most abundant. Do you know you may have messed yourself up. The reason you saw gains after the creatine is becasue that was when you finally quite taking it, it was the same time your body reacted to it. And nitric oxide supps only work if you take enough of them. I take 4g akkg powder 3-4 times a day. 5g creatine 2x a day, 5g glutamine 4 times a day, fish caps(6-8)2x a day, taurine 3-4g 2-3 times a day. and amino acid powder 10g 4-5 timesa day. So do this and stay fro mthat shit.

Ive taken one 180 cap bottle of NO2, 6 caps each day. Then 2nd bottle like 2 months after first was 10 caps a day. Neither did anything but slight pumps. I was about 190lbs at the time. Each time i taken creatine, i took it for 1-2 months straight. Neither time worked and both times no apperent gains were made that were aided by creatine. Seemed like i wasnt on it at all. But like i said cell-tech i had virtually no gains during that month or so of taking it. I would like to announce i'm dont with pro hormones or any type of test boosters, no thank to mostof you guys though. But Thanks to few people that have PM'ed me and the guys at my gym. I recently bought ON 100% Whey in cookies and cream (actually tastes like it, love it) which has 4 grams of gluatime in it and 5g BCAA along with 24g of protein or so per scoop. I still live with the parents for another year, and they are very anti-suplements so i cant just go out and buy a lot of bottles of pills and stuff like fish oil, zma, and so on. They see everything as a steroid. They even threw away my multi-vitamin that i had bought 2 days before the occurance.

All in all, i plan on goign natural, expect for protein supplements and maybe a CE2 and NO2 cycle.

 

[GFR]

Too late.....you used roids at 17 and 18...now your f-ked

 

[brogers]

Too late.....you used roids at 17 and 18...now your f-ked

Quite the optimist.

I'm sure he'll be fine.

 

[Thermal2]

Ive taken one 180 cap bottle of NO2, 6 caps each day. Then 2nd bottle like 2 months after first was 10 caps a day. Neither did anything but slight pumps. I was about 190lbs at the time. Each time i taken creatine, i took it for 1-2 months straight. Neither time worked and both times no apperent gains were made that were aided by creatine. Seemed like i wasnt on it at all. But like i said cell-tech i had virtually no gains during that month or so of taking it. I would like to announce i'm dont with pro hormones or any type of test boosters, no thank to mostof you guys though. But Thanks to few people that have PM'ed me and the guys at my gym. I recently bought ON 100% Whey in cookies and cream (actually tastes like it, love it) which has 4 grams of gluatime in it and 5g BCAA along with 24g of protein or so per scoop. I still live with the parents for another year, and they are very anti-suplements so i cant just go out and buy a lot of bottles of pills and stuff like fish oil, zma, and so on. They see everything as a steroid. They even threw away my multi-vitamin that i had bought 2 days before the occurance.

All in all, i plan on goign natural, expect for protein supplements and maybe a CE2 and NO2 cycle.

you keep looking for that WONDER supplement, IT is in your KITCHEN.. I havent seen anywhere that you have increased calories and water intake? The BEST ANABOLIC is FOOD. hands down. you can not get big without food. How about a 5000cal diet for your next "cycle". I bet you get bigger from that than anyother supplement you have mentioned!

also, tribulus might be your best option... natural and certainly is enough for an 18 year old with your seemingly lack of knowledge..

 

[GFR]

Quite the optimist.

I'm sure he'll be fine.

You have no idea if he will or wont.......but if you read his posts its clear he will do all he can to fu-k himself up before he turns 30.

 

[Igor55]

You have no idea if he will or wont.......but if you read his posts its clear he will do all he can to fu-k himself up before he turns 30.

You make no sense motherfucker, and as i just stated above i'm done with hormone affecting supplements. All you do is talk shit straight out of your ass.

 

[Igor55]

you keep looking for that WONDER supplement, IT is in your KITCHEN.. I havent seen anywhere that you have increased calories and water intake? The BEST ANABOLIC is FOOD. hands down. you can not get big without food. How about a 5000cal diet for your next "cycle". I bet you get bigger from that than anyother supplement you have mentioned!

also, tribulus might be your best option... natural and certainly is enough for an 18 year old with your seemingly lack of knowledge..

For the record my matabolism sucks the nuts, I've tried everything possible to improve it by eating every 2 hours and so on. My diet is clean and I have been getting around 4000-5000 calories a day for the past 2-3 months. A majority of my calories come from protein and carbs. Very few from fat. Having such a high calorie intake also caused fat gains. I havn't eaten any types of snacks (snikers n stuff) or fast food since beginning of last year.
What other ways you guys suggest i should try to improve my matabolism. I run about 20 minutes on ellyptical for about 340 calorie loss (according to the thing) every day after my workout. Sometimes i will do cardio for 5-10 minutes before workouts as a mere warm up. I do eat about every 2-3 hours, and try to get as much protein as possible with those means while keeping them small. I eat about 7-9 times throughout the day with each meal consisting of at least 20 grams of protein.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

 

[GFR]

You make no sense motherfucker, and as i just stated above i'm done with hormone affecting supplements. All you do is talk shit straight out of your ass.

You fu-ked up 2x now.....it's too late......your fu-ked.
Good luck in life with your shit brain and shit judgement....
Pathetic

 

[NEW_IN_THE_GAME]

Well Igor You need to lay off homeboy. I mean damn boy chil with your shit. ALRIGHT. And the products I listed above oculd easily be hidden. And creatine ethyl ester may not work either. I mean You should make gains. PM me , and I will set you up with a plan of action bro.

 

[FishOrCutBait]

For the record my matabolism sucks the nuts, I've tried everything possible to improve it by eating every 2 hours and so on. My diet is clean and I have been getting around 4000-5000 calories a day for the past 2-3 months. A majority of my calories come from protein and carbs. Very few from fat. Having such a high calorie intake also caused fat gains. I havn't eaten any types of snacks (snikers n stuff) or fast food since beginning of last year.
What other ways you guys suggest i should try to improve my matabolism. I run about 20 minutes on ellyptical for about 340 calorie loss (according to the thing) every day after my workout. Sometimes i will do cardio for 5-10 minutes before workouts as a mere warm up. I do eat about every 2-3 hours, and try to get as much protein as possible with those means while keeping them small. I eat about 7-9 times throughout the day with each meal consisting of at least 20 grams of protein.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Herein may lie a problem. You are not eating enough fats, which are the building blocks of all hormones, and your excercise plan is not working concurrently with your diet. there is no reason for you to be doing so much cardio if you are trying to put on muscle. And in fact, you may want to lower your cals, while still upping your fats.

 

[MeLo]

^

Amen to that.

Try to incoperate 8 tbs of peanut butter into your 5000cals diet.

Take out some carbs and protein, and replace it with pb.
I was feeling like shit when my fats were way down.
And oh, don't think adding 6g of fish oil to your diet is enough.

Fat = Hormones.

More potent than any steriod in the world.

 

[Tha Don]

Herein may lie a problem. You are not eating enough fats, which are the building blocks of all hormones, and your excercise plan is not working concurrently with your diet. there is no reason for you to be doing so much cardio if you are trying to put on muscle. And in fact, you may want to lower your cals, while still upping your fats.

how can you build strong muscles if you don't exercise the most important muscle of all? your heart!

i see it all the time, guys that do no cardio, and just lift, they look crap

 

[MeLo]

i believe you should do SOME cardio.

3 times a week 20 minutes just to get the heart pumping.

HIIT is the way to go bulking or cutting imo.
Mix in some moderate-low intensity just for variety's sake.

 

[Tha Don]

i believe you should do SOME cardio.

3 times a week 20 minutes just to get the heart pumping.

HIIT is the way to go bulking or cutting imo.
Mix in some moderate-low intensity just for variety's sake.

 

[Thermal2]

You make no sense motherfucker, and as i just stated above i'm done with hormone affecting supplements. All you do is talk shit straight out of your ass.

You have no right or respect for talking to a veteran that way. As you can see he has been around here MUCH longer than you have. Learn some forum respect. Like said before, Forman has a lot of knowledge if you ask him for it. However, you have gone about that the wrong way, thus bringing what he has said upon yourself.

You might get respect if you show respect. Not with that garbage coming out of your 18 year old mouth.

Let your nuts drop then come talking that shit.

 

[FishOrCutBait]

how can you build strong muscles if you don't exercise the most important muscle of all? your heart!

i see it all the time, guys that do no cardio, and just lift, they look crap

I should have worded that better, he needs to LOWER the cardio, not be doing so much.