First Cycle - Test E 12 Weeks

[WallsOfJericho]

As a follow up on my thread


http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/anabolic-zone/124438-first-cycle-first-post.html

Hey guys, so ive got my first cycle on order, doing 500mg Test E (Dragon Pharma) per week for 12 weeks.

week 1-12 - 500mg Test E 250mg x 2 a week
week 1-12 - Aromasin 0.25 EOD
Week 5-12 - HCG 500IU per week
week 12-14 - HCG 1000IU per week

Have Tamoxifen incase of any strong gyno problems on cycle
Finastride incase of severe hair loss, I know ive been told not to use it here, and chanes are I wont, but I have it on hand, but im running a hair loss prevention stack with natural ingredients. Saw palmetto, emu oil, nizoril shampoo, minoxidil. Vitamin E,B5,C

For PCT I have been swayed in the direction of

Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 100 first day then day 15-21 50/50/50/50
Aromasin 25/20/12.5/12.5

Any comments of suggestions? cheers

 

[minimal]

your aromasin dose during cycle says .25 EOD... should be something like 12.5 EOD

 

[WallsOfJericho]

your aromasin dose during cycle says .25 EOD... should be something like 12.5 EOD

Thanks, noted.

 

[jrp4277]

Looks good. Except, for me anyway, no nova in pct. Won't hurt though. Take care.

 

[justhav2p]

Yep, looks good, I upped my aromasin to 25 mgs every day because of a baby lump.

 

[WallsOfJericho]

Looks good. Except, for me anyway, no nova in pct. Won't hurt though. Take care.

Cool. This is the only board ive seen where using Nolva during PCT isnt the "done thing"

 

[MidwestBeast]

I wouldn't use both nolva and clomid in PCT for a test only cycle; but that's just me. Shouldn't hurt anything, just doesn't seem necessary.

 

[WallsOfJericho]

I wouldn't use both nolva and clomid in PCT for a test only cycle; but that's just me. Shouldn't hurt anything, just doesn't seem necessary.

Just Nolva then? would that be sufficient?

 

[Dath]

IMO only clomid would be needed.
Save the nolva for any on cycle gyno issues that MAY arise

 

[WallsOfJericho]

IMO only clomid would be needed.
Save the nolva for any on cycle gyno issues that MAY arise

I have 900mg Tamoxifen prescribed to me by docs for a gyno issue, but its not even that big a deal anymore. Im currently priming. Im diabetic, so losing fat is a bitch, ive been lowering my carbs thus lowering my total insulin intake, so have less inuslin floating around inside me. What dosage of clomid would be best?

 

[Dath]

Oh...see you gotta put important info like that up bud in your first post ok...im not sure of any affects clomid would have in your special situation....so im not gonna advise anything cause im not cimfortable doing so. Im gonna error on the side of caution here and let some other bros weigh in w that. For ME i run clomid 100 per day wk 1....then 75-50-50 remaing weeks...

 

[manickanuck]

does taking nolva help pre existing gyno?? say if you had it for years??

 

[Dath]

^^^^^If your looking to remove PRE exsiting gyno issues Letro is something to look into

 

[Killermonkey]

I agree with minimal that you should reduce the aromasin to 12.5 but I have never had to take it at all because the dose for test is too low where I didn't get soar nipples or lactation. It all depends who you are I suppose though. The rest looks good to me.

Remember your estrogen levels works hand in hand with your testosterone when it comes to gaining. If your estrogen is too low, then you gain won't be as optimum.

 

[Killermonkey]

I would also read the comprehensive thread in the classic convo thread about pct where it sates that you should take 500 iu of hcg twice per week at the point where you have just 500 iu once per week. . The rest looks ok though.

 

[WallsOfJericho]

Thanks fellas, the thing is about my "pre exsisting gyno" is I went to the docs a few months ago, my let nipple was kinda painful, and there was a small lump, itchy etc, but its just kinda dissapeared now, lump is gone, no long hurts when i lay on it, or knock it, just my nipple goes puffy when I get hot, all other symptoms have gone, and it got better without medication.

 

[Crank]

letro is best for that i think.

 

[raza abbas]

I think its all gud to go but take care of ur diet Steroid is no magic...
about 1-12 - Aromasin 0.25 EOD ... i always run Proviron 75 mg EOD and its work wonder for me but thats me .. U have to know ur own body bro ..

 

[WallsOfJericho]

I think its all gud to go but take care of ur diet Steroid is no magic...
about 1-12 - Aromasin 0.25 EOD ... i always run Proviron 75 mg EOD and its work wonder for me but thats me .. U have to know ur own body bro ..

Il be running it .12mg EOD instead, havnt really looked into Proviron at all, will consider it for next time maybe, just going to keep it simple for now

 

[redkingrory]

Letro! should always have it on hand.

 

[hawkcmc]

I think you guys are confusing arimidex and aromasin. Run Arimidex .5 mg EOD or Aromasin at 12.5 mg EOD as a starting point and see what your body does. These are both AI's so you only need to run ONE of them. If your holding a lot of water and noticing gyno flare, increase your AI if your joints are creaky and painful lower your AI.

 

[hawkcmc]

There is always that option for blood work to check your levels also. I probably should mention that.