First Tren run, couple of questions?

[Destro3m]

1) Age - 37
2) Weight and Percent BodyFat - 193/13%
3) Years of Consistant Training experience - 5 years
4) Previous Cycle experience - Test E only and running at 500 PW
5) Training routine and Diet - DC training, and diet will change as I start a new cycle, right now intermittent fasting style. But again this will change with cycle.
6) Cycle Goals - The old LMM just want to add a little size, and definition while dropping to around 11% BF or less.



Currently thinking of running like this:
W 1-8 50mg Tren A EOD
W 1-8 50mg Test Prop EOD
Anastrozole @ .25 -.5 EOD
Caber @ .5 twice per week

Then a normal PCT

My question is, is that enough Test Prop, and is this going to get me a good noticeable gain? (as far as muscle goes)
Or would I be better off running test E @ 250 wk for12 weeks and start the Tren in week 2?

Thanks in advance folks.

 

[VictorZ06]

Test E 12 weeks at 500mg EW. A waste to shut down your natty production for 250mg EW.



/V

 

[mrhat39]

Good advise Victor. I never really got the results I am looking for with less than 1g of test. 1gTest ,500 tren, 500 mast, is awesome stack for good gains and fat loss. Ps the mast makes it all go smoothly. Pss is mast helps keep your e in check,but you still might want to up the ai if you go for the bigger gains with the big test.

 

[zionoir626]

would use other compounds....tren is not an easy addition....

 

[animale66]

I'm with Victor - If Tren A and Test Prop is what you'd wanna do, I'd go more for like:

150mgs Test Prop EOD
150mgs Tren A EOD

and keep the rest the same.

Personally, I generally prefer to run a touch more Tren than Test but I think I respond better that way. Good job using Acetate for your first run.

If you have never run an 19-nor before, then be prepared to adjust the caber dosage. Took me a while to get that one just right. But other than that, not a bad start. Also, make sure to check your blood pressure WEEKLY at least for that second month. More than 7 weeks on tren at a reasonable dosage and I feel like my heads gonna pop!

 

[Destro3m]

Thanks for the input guys, decided I'm going to run 1 more Test cycle before I throw in the Tren. Give myself a little more time to prepare. Only being my second cycle thought this would be my best bet.
Thanks again for the help.

 

[Repo]

Test E 12 weeks at 500mg EW. A waste to shut down your natty production for 250mg EW.


/V

I would go with Victors recommendation - for sure.

When it comes to test and tren ratios, If it's a mild cycle - I keep them around the same rang (give or take 100mg.)

If I'm running a heaver cycle, I follow this... as the tren goes up, the test goes down - and if the test goes up, the tren goes down.

Right now I've been extremely busy which is effecting my workouts - big time - so I've lowered tren-e to 200mg and brought my test-e up to
700mg... which is about opposite from what I started this cycle out at... it's not optimal, but it is practical for a situation like mine.

Just a few extra things to consider when running a tren cycle.

 

[greg4881]

Just joined and I'm wanting to do the same cycle. Unfortunately I don't know a trustworthy supplier. If any of u guys that have posted could hook me up with an email of a source i would appreciate it.

 

[johnsonl3872]

Just joined and I'm wanting to do the same cycle. Unfortunately I don't know a trustworthy supplier. If any of u guys that have posted could hook me up with an email of a source i would appreciate it.

Any of the sponsors


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[BIGBEN2011]

When it comes to test and tren ratios, If it's a mild cycle - I keep them around the same rang (give or take 100mg.)

If I'm running a heaver cycle, I follow this... as the tren goes up, the test goes down - and if the test goes up, the tren goes down.


best post in years .well besides this go with Paxton not all sponsor are the same.

 

[Repo]

Just joined and I'm wanting to do the same cycle. Unfortunately I don't know a trustworthy supplier. If any of u guys that have posted could hook me up with an email of a source i would appreciate it.

Just as an FYI - you don't want to ask for a source openly on the forum... but, what Johnson said it right.

I'm a rep for P.S.L. (a sponsor) and was a very good customer "long before" I became a representative...

I know the guys very well... and their customers satisfaction is extremely important to them.

Plus they welcome customers to post their experience.

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[Super Saiyajin]

I saw a guys bloodwork who crashed his proalctin levels by using 0.5 twice a week. I'd try 0.25 twice a week first!