For the quickest and most efficient glycogen replacement...

[1Fast400]

Most people don't train in a way to deplete glycogen stores. I doubt most of the users of dextrose (or insert favorite carb name) do any sort of high rep circuit training. I believe most people that are taking dextrose and other carbs are over doing it.

This assumes one is just after looks. Not performance. That is a whole different ball game.

 

[gopro]

Most people don't train in a way to deplete glycogen stores. I doubt most of the users of dextrose (or insert favorite carb name) do any sort of high rep circuit training. I believe most people that are taking dextrose and other carbs are over doing it.

This assumes one is just after looks. Not performance. That is a whole different ball game.

Those that are training intensely with weights with the goal of getting bigger and stronger are effectively depleting glycogen stores, and are in need of high GI carbs after training to replace lost glycogen, suppress cortisol, and drive up insulin for its anabolic properties.

 

[1Fast400]

Those that are training intensely with weights with the goal of getting bigger and stronger are effectively depleting glycogen stores

Instensity is relative and is to vague. One can train intensely, but not properly for glycogen depletion and it still won't change the fact they didn't deplete gylcogen.

Take a track athlete. One that trains for the 60 meters vs the 5k meter involves totally different methods of training. Someone doing strength based moves, low rep/heavy weight training isn't going to gain much from the excessive sugar intake PWO.

 

[gopro]

Instensity is relative and is to vague. One can train intensely, but not properly for glycogen depletion and it still won't change the fact they didn't deplete gylcogen.

Take a track athlete. One that trains for the 60 meters vs the 5k meter involves totally different methods of training. Someone doing strength based moves, low rep/heavy weight training isn't going to gain much from the excessive sugar intake PWO.

Mike, I am not even going to argue with you about this. When and if you ever decide to pick up a weight and start seriously training yourself, we can talk. Or, after you have spent 15 years training bodybuilders and athletes 40-50 hours per week, in every facet of their programming (diet, workouts, supplementation, etc), we can discuss this.

However, until then...believe whatever you wish.

 

[1Fast400]

I wasn't saying that your carb idea was bad. Not at all. I was SIMPLY stating that many people don't train in a gylcogen depleting way. I think what you're talking about has great value for the person training in that fashion.

Don't get so defensive simply because it is me that is saying something.

 

[gopro]

I wasn't saying that your carb idea was bad. Not at all. I was SIMPLY stating that many people don't train in a gylcogen depleting way. I think what you're talking about has great value for the person training in that fashion.

Don't get so defensive simply because it is me that is saying something.

Ok, fair enough. However, for those that train in a manner that is both effective, and "intense" enough, to induce the physiological mechanisms that are necessary for producing hypertrophy, high GI carbs are optimal post workout for many reasons.

 

[1Fast400]

I won't even make fun of your not touching a weight comment. You obviously haven't seen me in quite some time.

I figure the next show we'd both be at would be the O. See if you still think that when we meet. Will you even be at a show? You don't work for vpx anymore right?

 

[gopro]

I won't even make fun of your not touching a weight comment. You obviously haven't seen me in quite some time.

I figure the next show we'd both be at would be the O. See if you still think that when we meet. Will you even be at a show? You don't work for vpx anymore right?

No, I have not seen you in some time. However, if you HAVE started training, then good for you! I applaud that! Especially if you have made some form of great transformation DRUG FREE.

As for whether I will be at the Mr. O or not, I am still not sure. No, I do not work for VPX anymore, as I left them in Oct 2005. However, if I AM there, it will be with ALRI, in support of the book that Author L Rea and I recently wrote together.

 

[Robboe]

What book, Eric?

 

[gopro]

What book, Eric?

http://www.anabolicbeast.com/

 

[sheadogg20]

http://www.anabolicbeast.com/

 

[scbz01602]

Well, I'd like to post my taste bud results as my first serving of Waxy Maize Starch was taken today PWO!

All in all, I really liked it. I was expecting some clumpage, but clumpage there was not! Even after around 10 or so minutes of sipping(no shaking), still no clumps, which I really thought would be the downside of using this.
Another suprise to me: It made the shake more enjoyable. My personal preference is thicker protein shakes.... not really into watery shakes at the slightest. But often to compensate with the gritty texture of whey powder with a smaller amount of water, I'll just dump more water in. With this, it made the shake signifigantly thicker; like a milk shake. And of course, it's tasteless, so it worked out as a win/win situation.

It's relatively expensive per serving, but it's around 2 dollars a week if used only in PWO shakes (on a 4-day split program), which is definetly affordable.

+1 for Waxy Maize Starch (and it took a lot to get me away from my RICE CAKES!.... which I still have just in lesser amounts hah)

 

[gopro]

Well, I'd like to post my taste bud results as my first serving of Waxy Maize Starch was taken today PWO!

All in all, I really liked it. I was expecting some clumpage, but clumpage there was not! Even after around 10 or so minutes of sipping(no shaking), still no clumps, which I really thought would be the downside of using this.
Another suprise to me: It made the shake more enjoyable. My personal preference is thicker protein shakes.... not really into watery shakes at the slightest. But often to compensate with the gritty texture of whey powder with a smaller amount of water, I'll just dump more water in. With this, it made the shake signifigantly thicker; like a milk shake. And of course, it's tasteless, so it worked out as a win/win situation.

It's relatively expensive per serving, but it's around 2 dollars a week if used only in PWO shakes (on a 4-day split program), which is definetly affordable.

+1 for Waxy Maize Starch (and it took a lot to get me away from my RICE CAKES!.... which I still have just in lesser amounts hah)

 

[pengers84]

What about using it pre workout? would that be beneficial as it speeds up supplement utilisation?

 

[sonofman]

I just made an order. They asked for a payment method but not my info. Strange The site says my order is in progress. Did this happen to anyone else?

 

[gopro]

I just made an order. They asked for a payment method but not my info. Strange The site says my order is in progress. Did this happen to anyone else?

That is weird...I would shoot them a quick email.

 

[gopro]

What about using it pre workout? would that be beneficial as it speeds up supplement utilisation?

If you are in a bulking/gaining phase, then yes, you could use 20-40 g of WMS preworkout along with your supplements.

However, if you are in a cutting phase, I would only use it postworkout.

 

[sonofman]

That is weird...I would shoot them a quick email.

I did hours ago they haven't contacted me, but then again there on the West Coast.

 

[gopro]

I did hours ago they haven't contacted me, but then again there on the West Coast.

Well, they are a very solid and trustworthy company, I can tell you that.

 

[sonofman]

I received my 3 lbs today(It took a week, but I feel as though it will be worth it). Man, that stuff can get everywhere. I agreed with everything scbz01602 said in his review. Thanks again GoPro & scbz01602

 

[gopro]

I received my 3 lbs today(It took a week, but I feel as though it will be worth it). Man, that stuff can get everywhere. I agreed with everything scbz01602 said in his review. Thanks again GoPro & scbz01602

You are welcome! I sincerely hope that it helps you with your progress!

Love that P/RR/S Soldier monicker!!

 

[Martinogdenbsx]

where it says add to cart 1,2,3,4,5,6, is that the number of lbs????

What would you say was the best protein source there and pre workout carbs

Also which casein protein would you recommend,think i may order all my supplement needs from here

Thanks

 

[gopro]

where it says add to cart 1,2,3,4,5,6, is that the number of lbs????

What would you say was the best protein source there and pre workout carbs

Also which casein protein would you recommend,think i may order all my supplement needs from here

Thanks

Yes that is the # of lbs.

Best protein source? Depends on for what. For whey, I would go with microfiltered isolate.

For casein, nothing better than micellar casein.

 

[Martinogdenbsx]

cheers go pro

pm sent

 

[Martinogdenbsx]

it's 100 pounds shipping charges to my adress here in the UK for 26lbs of protein and carbs

thats a bit above my budget

 

[gopro]

it's 100 pounds shipping charges to my adress here in the UK for 26lbs of protein and carbs

thats a bit above my budget

Well, unfortunately with where you live, it is bound to be extremely expensive to ship!

 

[juggernaut]

but what about those who believe that oats, fruit, yogurt and whey are better solution?

 

[gopro]

but what about those who believe that oats, fruit, yogurt and whey are better solution?

Better solution to what? Slowing down your progress, LOL?

 

[juggernaut]

 

[MCx2]

Anyone using this stuff or what? I'm curious.