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Formeron LOG!!!

brundel said:
I love hearing that. The goal is to make solid reliable products available for guys like us.
I have been on trt for years.......its been even longer that i have used Formeron as my only ai.
Of course it wasnt called formeron until recently but this product has been a staple in my arsenal for years.
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Just wanted to say thank you for developing such a great product. As I said before, it is the only AI that I will use moving forward.

Ease of application, efficient as an AI, smells pretty damn good. What a great product, you've got a customer as long as its available.
 
Anabolic5150 said:
Just wanted to say thank you for developing such a great product. As I said before, it is the only AI that I will use moving forward.

Ease of application, efficient as an AI, smells pretty damn good. What a great product, you've got a customer as long as its available.
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Thanks bro.

Im just stoked everyone likes it!
I want to make sure people are excited when they get packs from me.
Thanks for the good words. Moving forward we plan on adding some new items soon. I think people will be happy.
 
I have not talked to one person that wasn't happy with the Black Lion Products. The Acnedren is equally impressive. I can't wait to see what other products are to come from Black Lion Research.
 
brundel said:
Thanks bro.

Im just stoked everyone likes it!
I want to make sure people are excited when they get packs from me.
Thanks for the good words. Moving forward we plan on adding some new items soon. I think people will be happy.
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All the praise you receive is well deserved and well earned.


TGB1987 said:
I have not talked to one person that wasn't happy with the Black Lion Products. The Acnedren is equally impressive. I can't wait to see what other products are to come from Black Lion Research.
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Black Lion Research and TGBSupplements, 2 great resources available to us and staples for me.
 
cant wait until I get to try acnedren:daydream:
 
Vibrant said:
cant wait until I get to try acnedren:daydream:
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It makes a huge difference for me. I am using two caps a day and probably should up it to three but even at just two a day it makes a tremendous difference in my acne even on cycle. I stopped taking it for a few days and the acne started to pop up everywhere again. I would say it takes away about 85-95% of my acne on cycle at a dose of Two a day. I noticed my skin starting to clear after 5 days and then at 14 days it was mostly clear. The way to really see that it is working is to stop taking it for a couple of days like I did. Best part is there are no side effects. It is safe. Hope to see others post their results too.
 
TGB1987 said:
It makes a huge difference for me. I am using two caps a day and probably should up it to three but even at just two a day it makes a tremendous difference in my acne even on cycle. I stopped taking it for a few days and the acne started to pop up everywhere again. I would say it takes away about 85-95% of my acne on cycle at a dose of Two a day. I noticed my skin starting to clear after 5 days and then at 14 days it was mostly clear. The way to really see that it is working is to stop taking it for a couple of days like I did. Best part is there are no side effects. It is safe. Hope to see others post their results too.
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Id like to learn more about this. Picked up some accutane(iso) from MP but it has ever so slightly regressed so ill wait to use it. If there is something a little safer to use id be game.
 
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TGB1987 said:
It makes a huge difference for me. I am using two caps a day and probably should up it to three but even at just two a day it makes a tremendous difference in my acne even on cycle. I stopped taking it for a few days and the acne started to pop up everywhere again. I would say it takes away about 85-95% of my acne on cycle at a dose of Two a day. I noticed my skin starting to clear after 5 days and then at 14 days it was mostly clear. The way to really see that it is working is to stop taking it for a couple of days like I did. Best part is there are no side effects. It is safe. Hope to see others post their results too.
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I'm actually a little strange, I get less acne on cycle then I do during pct. I have my pct coming soon and I'll be adding it to my protocol.
 
I break out more too when I am coming off because of the imbalance of hormones but I break out on cycle due to the increased oil production. I guess I get the joy of dealing with both situations lol.
 
Thankfully I never come off :)
With the Acnedren my acne is totally gone at hrt dose.
With a gram of test and 500 eq i have 1 or 2 tiny pimples once and a while...
but normally I would have like 20 and most would be huge cystic ones.
 
Just wanted to let everybody know that I chatted with Brundel and let him know that I was experiencing some joint pain due to what I believe is a case of low e2 on one pump a day of Formeron. He responded immediately and agrees with my assessment, gonna cut back to one pump every other day. He also asked me to post this, just wanted folks to know the complete truth about his product. That makes me an ever stronger believer in him and his product.
 
brundel said:
Thankfully I never come off :)
With the Acnedren my acne is totally gone at hrt dose.
With a gram of test and 500 eq i have 1 or 2 tiny pimples once and a while...
but normally I would have like 20 and most would be huge cystic ones.
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Exactly lol . Acnedren can be a huge peace of mind for those guys who are cycling and get huge but are afraid to take their shirt off in the summer because they are have bad acne or are afraid someone will know what the acne is from. I honestly was skeptical but once I tried it and saw what it was like without the acnedren It made me a full believer. Anyone who is contemplating it should give it a shot. What do you got to lose?
 
I would get slight pain in my nipples every now and then, nothing major.

Since I started Formeone I have no pain at all now. I really like the Formeron. I might be dosed up too high (2 pumps morning, 2 at night). I might switch to 1 and 1 here. I just really like it.
 
brundel said:
You probably wont need much. Because its a suicidal ai your levels will remain low for a while even if you stop treatment with it. My friend was using it during trt and his estro was 5.
What dose of adex were you using?
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Doc had me on 1 gm eod. My last blood test showed My estrogen was slightly elevated. However, that was because I ran out and went a few months without Arimidex.

I started the formerone high, because it had been another long while off of an anti estrogen. I don't want my estrogen too low.
 
Once you get the estrogen under control you should be able to drop it down to one or two times a day with no issues at all. I am using Formeron once a day and sometimes I will even skip a day. I know it is working very well. Great product.
 
Anabolic5150 said:
Just wanted to let everybody know that I chatted with Brundel and let him know that I was experiencing some joint pain due to what I believe is a case of low e2 on one pump a day of Formeron. He responded immediately and agrees with my assessment, gonna cut back to one pump every other day. He also asked me to post this, just wanted folks to know the complete truth about his product. That makes me an ever stronger believer in him and his product.
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Thanks bro.
While joint pain in not really a wanted effect it is a sign of estro being too low. I wanted you to post so people could see that even 1 pump a day can reduce estro to pretty low levels. I have someone getting bloodwork right now with 1 pump a day for a week and a half. Hopefuly we see a good % of reduction.
 
DRACOMACHINE said:
Doc had me on 1 gm eod. My last blood test showed My estrogen was slightly elevated. However, that was because I ran out and went a few months without Arimidex.

I started the formerone high, because it had been another long while off of an anti estrogen. I don't want my estrogen too low.
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The issue with Arimidex is once you stop using it there is potential for a bunch of the aromatase enzyme to be released which will cause a big spike in your estro levels....really we NEVER want this.

In contrast, Formeron, is a "suicidal AI" meaning there is no potential for this spike because it binds to the enzyme and forever renders it inactive.
So once estro is managed with FOrmeron you can back off to 1pump ed or eve 1 pump eod and keep it low because it takes a while for the aromatase enzyme to work its way back up.
 
TGB1987 said:
Once you get the estrogen under control you should be able to drop it down to one or two times a day with no issues at all. I am using Formeron once a day and sometimes I will even skip a day. I know it is working very well. Great product.
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:) that^^
 
brundel said:
Thanks bro.
While joint pain in not really a wanted effect it is a sign of estro being too low. I wanted you to post so people could see that even 1 pump a day can reduce estro to pretty low levels. I have someone getting bloodwork right now with 1 pump a day for a week and a half. Hopefuly we see a good % of reduction.
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I've dropped to one pump every other day per your recommendation and am feeling better already joint wise. I have a full blood panel scheduled for next week, I'll make sure to post where my e2 is at.
 
Been running at 3 pumps a day for a little over a week. Noticeable increase in vascularity and some strength gains. So far i have zero joint problems or other low estro side effects, no negative side effects in general actually. Thinking about bumping up to 4 pumps for the remainder of the run. What do you guys think?
 
thebadfish said:
Been running at 3 pumps a day for a little over a week. Noticeable increase in vascularity and some strength gains. So far i have zero joint problems or other low estro side effects, no negative side effects in general actually. Thinking about bumping up to 4 pumps for the remainder of the run. What do you guys think?
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4 pumps a day is a lot, you don't want over suppression. Blood work is the only true way to know where you stand.
 
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Anabolic5150 said:
4 pumps a day is a lot, you don't want over suppression. Blood work is the only true way to know where you stand.
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yeah i was at 4 pumps a day for my first 3 days... and it was too much. the only reason why i started at 4 pumps( 2 in the am.. 2 in the pm) bc i was having gyno issues. tingling in my left nipple. but i swear after the first 24 hrs.. not only did i lose all my gyno sumptons.. i lost all my water weight and my joints where killing me.. i used to wake up in the middle of the night bc of joint pain.. and my mouth was too dry... so i backed down to 1 pump a day.. sometimes 2.. depending how am feeling....but i can vouched for formeron its definitely a great product,,, and it does work...
 
Would this be enough by itself as a PCT drug for a 4 week cycle of Superdrol or should clomid definitely be added?
 
Anabolic5150 said:
4 pumps a day is a lot, you don't want over suppression. Blood work is the only true way to know where you stand.
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Good point. The only way to know for sure are some labs. I'm just running as a stand alone to see how i react. Plan on running it with DMZ this summer so i just wanted to see if it was worth while. Ill probably stick to 3 pumps for the remainder of this little "cycle." However I"ll cut it down if i start to experience any problems. Oh yea its a solid product. :winkfinger:
 
msumuscle said:
Would this be enough by itself as a PCT drug for a 4 week cycle of Superdrol or should clomid definitely be added?
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Considering it was only a 4 week cycle you would probably be fine with FOrmeron alone.
In studies it was able to elevate natural testosterone levels even above high normal.
 
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