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You cannot validate any stoies in the bible!!! This is the biggest mistake of all, you want to LITERALIZE stories that are metaphorical in nature. You should read them and grasp the moral of the story, that's it, nothing more.
You do know the meaning of metaphorical right?
Ummm... did I mention that pornalize has the lead... any counter votes?
then the professor sucks!
a good professor is not there to change your opinion, of course you decide for yourself, but you have to be open minded enough and at least listen.
Well, it's the sam as most of the nutrition profs I've had. The immediately insult the intelligence of anyone who does not take the food pyramid as "the gospel" (sorry for the inference, but it fit).
and that's the 1st analogy that comes to mind. I have had Christian profs in philosophy, though. And in my sciences for that matter...even non Christian ones that are pro-intelligent design.
and that's the 1st analogy that comes to mind. I have had Christian profs in philosophy, though. And in my sciences for that matter...even non Christian ones that are pro-intelligent design.
Eh, I just say that debating this is a moot point. 
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LOL 
Yes, it's futile...see my previous post about circular arguments because that is the only place that this debate will go (or not go) as long as we're debating it with christians.
Why? Because their entire argument is just that, it always reverts back to "because the bible says so".
No offense intended, but it's true...we have seen it over and over in this thread, and I have had this debate numerous times with many other christians, including my own family.
btw, I now have the record of 22 posts in this damn thread.
Why? Because their entire argument is just that, it always reverts back to "because the bible says so".
No offense intended, but it's true...we have seen it over and over in this thread, and I have had this debate numerous times with many other christians, including my own family.
btw, I now have the record of 22 posts in this damn thread.
So much to reply to so little time. Holy Cow.
IT- Your referance to "But god MADE the Phaoro's heart cold and he called for his guards to get his slaves back." Starts in Exodus 7 and ends in Exodus 11. The Bible stated that pharaoh's heart was harden toward God not the other way around. It states this several time
IT- I don't pick and choose. The difference between Jewish religion and Christiananity is the fact that we believe, as the new testament states, when Christ rose, there was a new law born to be followed. The old law, old testament, delt with sacrifices, the ark of the covenant, and ritual. The new law basically state that anyone of us can pray and have our prayers answered. I believe the entire bible but, live by the new law.
Prince- B.S. in Business Aministration from Southwest Baptist Univeristy. Born and raised in the church. But honestly education has little to do with understanding and believing the bible. That comes through careful study, which i'm assuming you've done.
Evolution- Have to go...will get back with you later... dinner time.
IT- Your referance to "But god MADE the Phaoro's heart cold and he called for his guards to get his slaves back." Starts in Exodus 7 and ends in Exodus 11. The Bible stated that pharaoh's heart was harden toward God not the other way around. It states this several time
IT- I don't pick and choose. The difference between Jewish religion and Christiananity is the fact that we believe, as the new testament states, when Christ rose, there was a new law born to be followed. The old law, old testament, delt with sacrifices, the ark of the covenant, and ritual. The new law basically state that anyone of us can pray and have our prayers answered. I believe the entire bible but, live by the new law.
Prince- B.S. in Business Aministration from Southwest Baptist Univeristy. Born and raised in the church. But honestly education has little to do with understanding and believing the bible. That comes through careful study, which i'm assuming you've done.
Evolution- Have to go...will get back with you later... dinner time.
I don't believe that I did that, though most of my comments were theological in their nature. The funnything is that there is so much more to this debate and the scientific aspect of it, but I still vote that it is moot b/c for every piece of evidence in this matter there are arguments. How bout we call it a day...week...year...
ahhh...well that explains it, a Baptist college.
B.S. in Business Admin, huh? So, I assume that your exposure to philosophy, other religeons and sociology was pretty much non-existent or it was biased towards christianity since it was a christian school, right?
Education has everything to do with understanding the bible my friend. Everyone in my family is uneducated (no college graduates) and they cannot give any argument except "it's true cause the bible says so", which is quite frustrating.
well, gotta go home now, it's been fun chatting, no hard feelings.
Prince, did you get my PM?
W/ that said, I am gonna be the ahole to close this puppy up for the good of the masses...
May God have mercy on your souls sorry, had to 
...can I give a benediction?
seriously though.... to each their own. Go out and figure it out.
Have a nice day.
Adios
May God have mercy on your souls
sorry, had to ...can I give a benediction?
seriously though.... to each their own. Go out and figure it out.
Have a nice day.
Adios
Alright, by popular request...
Lets just keep it in good humor and friendly. To help w/ this, I would suggest that views should be stated as "your views" and avoid the tendency to state things as a fact. Whether that is your belief or not, logic dictates that this debate has no true conclusion, or resolution if you may, by point/counterpoint and therefore this is a matter of personal belief. If you're adressing another member's viewpoint, please be respectful of their opinion regardless of your stance. Thank you and have a nice day.
I love stating the obvious and acting like I'm mature, but seriously. I'm opening this back up but staying very watchful, as I'm sure the other mods are.
Peace
Lets just keep it in good humor and friendly. To help w/ this, I would suggest that views should be stated as "your views" and avoid the tendency to state things as a fact. Whether that is your belief or not, logic dictates that this debate has no true conclusion, or resolution if you may, by point/counterpoint and therefore this is a matter of personal belief. If you're adressing another member's viewpoint, please be respectful of their opinion regardless of your stance. Thank you and have a nice day.
I love stating the obvious and acting like I'm mature, but seriously. I'm opening this back up but staying very watchful, as I'm sure the other mods are.
Peace
I'm just glad I'm stayin' outta this one, despite my argumentative nature
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Originally posted by Prince
Great, please read my posts carefully before responding to me.
I've read this post four times........CAREFULLY...........and still can't come up with a response.
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I'm a bit confused by this one Prince. Please don't take it that I've formed an opinion, one way or the other, because I just don't have all the facts and am hoping you can clear this up for me. You say that your "very liberal professors" "removed your blinders", is that correct? Are you sure they didn't actually taint your vision with their liberalism? In essence, puting blinders on you? I'm not a college professor but I have been in the teaching profession for over a decade and I know, regardless of intent, some personal views WILL creep into speech. It's literally impossible to remove all emotion/personal beliefs from a lecture given by a human being. And I don't use absolutes like "impossible" lightly.
I have read it over and over very carefully and my favorite still has to be the ass.
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Originally posted by craig777
I have read it over and over very carefully and my favorite still has to be the ass.
I'm into boobs myself...............................What the hell are you talking about Craig???
Originally posted by ALBOB
I'm into boobs myself...............................What the hell are you talking about Craig???
Well yesterday corndog asked what we should do with this thread and I suggested pornalizing it, and what better way to pornalize than to focus on a nice, fine, firm female ass. Of course boobs are also nice, but I prefer the ass.
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Oh, right. Give me a break, I'm less than a decade younger than Dero and can barely remember what I had for breakfast. You want me to remember a post from YESTERDAY???
Originally posted by ALBOB
Oh, right. Give me a break, I'm less than a decade younger than Dero and can barely remember what I had for breakfast. You want me to remember a post from YESTERDAY???
That is why you are in the Military
Prince,
You strike me as a person that would be open to learning new information. That said the book "Evidence That Demands a Verdict" by Josh McDowell, is a book I think you would find interesting. The author basically had many of the same opinions as you, went out with the intent of proving christianity a farce, and writes about his results. Truely his vision was blurred by his disbelief of christianity. If you want, I will send you a copy because I want the know your opinion.
Anyone else want one for free, let me PM me and I'll mail you one. (Limit to the first 5, I'm not a rich man!!!)
Very good read.
You strike me as a person that would be open to learning new information. That said the book "Evidence That Demands a Verdict" by Josh McDowell, is a book I think you would find interesting. The author basically had many of the same opinions as you, went out with the intent of proving christianity a farce, and writes about his results. Truely his vision was blurred by his disbelief of christianity. If you want, I will send you a copy because I want the know your opinion.
Anyone else want one for free, let me PM me and I'll mail you one. (Limit to the first 5, I'm not a rich man!!!)
Very good read.
Pardon the typo "let me PM me "????
Anyone else want one for free, let me PM me and I'll mail you one. (Limit to the first 5, I'm not a rich man!!!)
PM me for a copy.
Anyone else want one for free, let me PM me and I'll mail you one. (Limit to the first 5, I'm not a rich man!!!)
PM me for a copy.
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At this point I would like to refer to stephen hawking, some of you may have read his book, A Brief History of Time.
In it he explains his theory, based on some unproven assumptions, about why there is no need for a God. According to his theory, there was not necessarily a Big Bang and that the Universe may never have had a singularity. Therefore, there was never a need for a Creator to set in motion the creation of the universe, as it always existed.
Following the publication of this theory, non-Christians argued this proved there was no God. Conversely, a few decades ago, when Hawking and a fellow scientist proved the mathematics behind blackholes, Christians argued this proved the need for a God to set in motion going from the orignal singularity to where we are today, an expanding universe.
Hawking, understandably, was not impressed with people taking his theoritcal findings and using them in a religious debate.
However, I find it interesting how religious folk will use science to their advantage when it suits them but try to refute it when it doesn't suit them. This is not the ideal of science, in science everything must be objective. If you have a hypothesis and your stuides prove you wrong, you don't run and hide from it and stick to your origninal idea. You admit you are wrong and move on. Afterall, what you may have found will be of use anyway.
That is why I believe in science and not God. Science has already debunked enitre sections of the Bible, Genisis being the most obvious. How long before the enitre Bible is debunked?
In it he explains his theory, based on some unproven assumptions, about why there is no need for a God. According to his theory, there was not necessarily a Big Bang and that the Universe may never have had a singularity. Therefore, there was never a need for a Creator to set in motion the creation of the universe, as it always existed.
Following the publication of this theory, non-Christians argued this proved there was no God. Conversely, a few decades ago, when Hawking and a fellow scientist proved the mathematics behind blackholes, Christians argued this proved the need for a God to set in motion going from the orignal singularity to where we are today, an expanding universe.
Hawking, understandably, was not impressed with people taking his theoritcal findings and using them in a religious debate.
However, I find it interesting how religious folk will use science to their advantage when it suits them but try to refute it when it doesn't suit them. This is not the ideal of science, in science everything must be objective. If you have a hypothesis and your stuides prove you wrong, you don't run and hide from it and stick to your origninal idea. You admit you are wrong and move on. Afterall, what you may have found will be of use anyway.
That is why I believe in science and not God. Science has already debunked enitre sections of the Bible, Genisis being the most obvious. How long before the enitre Bible is debunked?
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Eh,eh,eh!!!Don't you use my name in vain!!!Originally posted by ALBOB
Oh, right. Give me a break, I'm less than a decade younger than Dero and can barely remember what I had for breakfast. You want me to remember a post from YESTERDAY???
I will have no part in this round table discussion...
Round,round it goes and NOBODY KNOWS!!!
PORNALISATION FOR DA NATION!!!
That's three AYYYYYYS there Corny!!!
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