Generic Labs Log

[BlueJayMuscle]

Decided on 25mg E3D aromasin. Cycle is going great. Feeling good eating right and gettin stronger. Hopefully someone answers this...

My biceps are weird shape. They are basically like a softball just implanted in my arm. They come out pretty far medially. So much so in my opinion at least it looks disproportionate to triceps on say a double front bicep flex. The bottom of my arms (triceps) just don't look as big as they should in comparison. Any tips? Thanks in advance

 

[BlueJayMuscle]

I'm not sure why no one is responding but I'll continue the log.

Finished first week. Muscles feel harder all the time. When I workout I feel like they're gonna burst out of my skin. Getting continuously stronger. Definitely feel aggressive like when I get angry I get angrier than normal. Haven't moved a pound on the scale yet

We'll see how the second week goes.

 

[Anabolic5150]

I'm not sure why no one is responding but I'll continue the log.

Finished first week. Muscles feel harder all the time. When I workout I feel like they're gonna burst out of my skin. Getting continuously stronger. Definitely feel aggressive like when I get angry I get angrier than normal. Haven't moved a pound on the scale yet

We'll see how the second week goes.

Sorry Bro, I am following along, just been busy as hell.

Don't you love the feeling when you feel like your skin is gonna rip apart??

 

[hypno]

I am watching also, but as Anabolic5150 I have been way busy and just got over being bed ridden sick.

Great log and info here. I think its a good thing that your bi's are getting bigger. Shows how good the gear is. If I knew what to suggest I would but I don't know.

My guess is that if you want to equal out your muscles you could add something new to your workouts. Already great work outs but ???

 

[BlueJayMuscle]

Sorry Bro, I am following along, just been busy as hell.

Don't you love the feeling when you feel like your skin is gonna rip apart??

No words can describe how good this feels haha

I am watching also, but as Anabolic5150 I have been way busy and just got over being bed ridden sick.

Great log and info here. I think its a good thing that your bi's are getting bigger. Shows how good the gear is. If I knew what to suggest I would but I don't know.

My guess is that if you want to equal out your muscles you could add something new to your workouts. Already great work outs but ???

That's what I like to see!

Had a great workout tonight.
Inclined Dumbbell press 4x12 85 lb DBs (Really easy)
Declined Cable Crossover 3x12 70 lb each side
Inclined Dumbbell Fly 3x12 55 lb DBs
Superset: Db Overhead Tricep Ext (80 lb DB) w/ Dips 4x12

Less than 60 seconds between each set. I'm feeling the pumps in the minor muscles that wouldn't otherwise get worked as hard if you know what I mean. Anterior and Posterior Delts and Pec Minors are shot. I love it

 

[Anabolic5150]

Good looking workout Bro!!

 

[BlueJayMuscle]

For injection sites, I've been cycling Vastus Medialis (tear shaped part of quad) on either side, then both Pecs, then Vastus Lateralis (outer part of quad) on either side. So 6 spots total and remember I'm pinning ED. With a 25g 1" which is what I'm used to.

Every single one has gone great with minimal injection pain except 2 days ago did my right pec and now its super tight and locked up with a bruise at the injection site and very painful. Any advice?

Should I add more injection sites? <-- implying I'm injecting in the same spots too often

 

[Anabolic5150]

For injection sites, I've been cycling Vastus Medialis (tear shaped part of quad) on either side, then both Pecs, then Vastus Lateralis (outer part of quad) on either side. So 6 spots total and remember I'm pinning ED. With a 25g 1" which is what I'm used to.

Every single one has gone great with minimal injection pain except 2 days ago did my right pec and now its super tight and locked up with a bruise at the injection site and very painful. Any advice?

Should I add more injection sites? <-- implying I'm injecting in the same spots too often

I'm always afraid to inject pecs, just bothers me. Sounds like you may have hit a vein or nerve pocket. I hate pinning ed, but would rotate quads, glutes and delts if I was gonna. Quads give a very large surface to pin as well as glutes, you can get about 3 pins in each area without them being too close.

 

[BlueJayMuscle]

I'm always afraid to inject pecs, just bothers me. Sounds like you may have hit a vein or nerve pocket. I hate pinning ed, but would rotate quads, glutes and delts if I was gonna. Quads give a very large surface to pin as well as glutes, you can get about 3 pins in each area without them being too close.

I feel most comfortable with pecs because I have both my hands and it's right in front of my face.

I hate delts and glutes just cause of the angle and lack of control.

I don't think it was a vein... didn't bleed more than normal. I usually have about a drop of blood. What do you mean by nerve pocket though?

 

[Anabolic5150]

Nerve pockets are areas where nerve groups come together (imagine the center of a spider web). If you nick one, as I have done, it swells, is painful and will bruise. Locked up is not something that has ever happened to me, but as long as there is no fever, it will subside in my opinion.

 

[BlueJayMuscle]

That must be it. I massaged it and it's loosened up a lot so I'm not gonna worry.

I did hurt my ankle today at a rugby match though... Praying it's only a sprain but hurts a lot. Elevating with compression and ice and took an anti-inflammatory

 

[Anabolic5150]

That must be it. I massaged it and it's loosened up a lot so I'm not gonna worry.

I did hurt my ankle today at a rugby match though... Praying it's only a sprain but hurts a lot. Elevating with compression and ice and took an anti-inflammatory

Hope it is nothing serious.

 

[powerhouse212]

I feel most comfortable with pecs because I have both my hands and it's right in front of my face.

I hate delts and glutes just cause of the angle and lack of control.

I don't think it was a vein... didn't bleed more than normal. I usually have about a drop of blood. What do you mean by nerve pocket though?

Delts are simple brne of the easiest areas to hit.

 

[BlueJayMuscle]

Ankle is just badly sprained but no squats or leg presses for a couple weeks

I really disagree about delts. Probably because I have friends who've gotten abscesses from pinning in a slightly off angle or area of their delt. I know their dumb for it but it left me not wanting to do delts if you get me haha. I am considering anterior delt although an inch needle is kinda long for those. I'm just going quads on quads on quads now

 

[AwesomeSmiley]

Ankle is just badly sprained but no squats or leg presses for a couple weeks

I really disagree about delts. Probably because I have friends who've gotten abscesses from pinning in a slightly off angle or area of their delt. I know their dumb for it but it left me not wanting to do delts if you get me haha. I am considering anterior delt although an inch needle is kinda long for those. I'm just going quads on quads on quads now

I find quads the easiest place to pin. I do rotate between ass and quads.

 

[BlueJayMuscle]

Into the third week and I am welcoming it with open arms.

Upped to 50mg of Dbol a day. No gyno. No bloat actually.. which is weird for me and Dbol.

Weighed in at 197 lbs today after working out. People are starting to stare in the gym haha love it

 

[BlueJayMuscle]

Question.

If while aspirating, air bubbles enter the syringe, what does that mean?

 

[AwesomeSmiley]

That you haven't hit a vein. It's no biggie, happens to me frequently.

 

[BlueJayMuscle]

Oh okay. Never happened to me before. But it's fine now so I won't worry.

Starting the 4th week of dbol. Usually I have a lot more water weight by now. I'm on 50mg/day. Maybe the prop is keeping it low? I've actually lost weight I'm down to 191 lbs but stronger. Thinking of upping prop and adding in formeron instead of aromasin

 

[bmw]

Decided on 25mg E3D aromasin. Cycle is going great. Feeling good eating right and gettin stronger. Hopefully someone answers this...

My biceps are weird shape. They are basically like a softball just implanted in my arm. They come out pretty far medially. So much so in my opinion at least it looks disproportionate to triceps on say a double front bicep flex. The bottom of my arms (triceps) just don't look as big as they should in comparison. Any tips? Thanks in advance

I'd do waaaay less volume and way more weight. Focusing on exercises for triceps like CGBP, French Press (seated and lying (skull crushers)), PJR Pullovers, RGBP (reverse grip BP). Heavy weight!

 

[Silver Back]

I bet that dose of aromasin is keeping the bloat off. Is it GP aromasin?

 

[BlueJayMuscle]

I'm a fan of the higher rep higher set to promote hypertrophy school of thought. So i stick to 8 rep minimum usually for compound lifts and 12 minimum for isolated. 4x12 is my staple lift structure.

The aromasin isn't gp. I kinda wanted some bloat and water retention to show.. But oh well. Laying off of milk thistle for a week to observe changes. May not be a great idea but I know when my liver is off well see.

Feeling great overall. Abs coming in a lot more (signs of reduced bf % I'll check next week) muscles way harder and appear to be more filled out (hoping this isn't water retention and stays post cycle)

 

[bmw]

typical overtraining. I assume you do the typical BBing splits of one body part per workout and workout 5-6 days a week too, right? How many exercises per bodypart? 3-5?

 

[BlueJayMuscle]

typical overtraining. I assume you do the typical BBing splits of one body part per workout and workout 5-6 days a week too, right? How many exercises per bodypart? 3-5?

This is not overtraining... It may be for some people but I'm used to high volume exercise.

Also the best routines to promote hypertrophy for compound exercises are 3-6 sets of 8-12 reps tentatively depending on the person.

The first and foremost signs of overtraining are elevated resting heart rate and fatigue and I have neither.

Precycle RHR 55 bpm
This week RHR avg 52 bpm

My routine is on my first post with my stats and if you read that you'd know it's not overtraining.

I am looking for a new routine though to restimulate muscles. Suggestions?

 

[NoCode8511]

I do this every few months for 4 weeks...

Monday - Back, Bi's, Legs
Pull ups (wide grip) - 50 reps
Bent Rows - 4x10,8,8,6
DB or Cale Rows - 3x10
Straight Bar Curls - 4x10,8,8,6
Seated Alt DB Curls - 4x8-10
Preacher Curls - 3x8-10
Squats - 5x12,10,8,8,6
Deadlifts - 3x8,5,3
Extentions - 3x10-12
Standing Calf Rasies - 4x15-20

Tuesday - Chest, Shoulders, Tri's
Bench - 4x10,8,6,4 Every 3rd week use DB
Incline - 4x12,10,8,8
DB Flyes - 4x8-10
Seated Military Press - 4x10,8,8,6
Arnold Press - 3x8-10
Side Lateral Raises - 3x10-12
Tricep Extensions - 10,8,8,8
DB French Press - 3x8-10
Tricep Pushdowns - 3x10-12 Alt bar each week

Thursday - Back, Bi's, Legs
Lat Pulldowns - 3x10-12 superset with T Rows - 3x12
Hyperextensions - 3x15
BB Curls - 3 sets of 21's
Alt Hammer Curls - 3x10 superset with Cable Reverse Curls 3x10-12
Alt DB Curls - 2x Run the rack superset with Preacher Curls - 3x Stripping method
Squats - 4x10,8,8,6 superset with Leg Press - 4x12,10,10,15
Leg Extensions - 3x12-15 superset with Leg Curls 3x10-12
Lunges - 2x12
Standing Calf Raises superset with Seated - 4x15-20

Friday - Chest, Shoulders, Tri's
Bench Press superset with DB Flyes - 3x10-12
Incline superset with Cable Crossovers - 3x10-12
Push ups - As many as you can in 2 minutes
Side, Front, Rear Laterals, Upright Rows, and Shrugs - 2x5,4,3
Close Grip Bench Press superset with Skullcrushers - 3x12-15
One Arm French Press - 3x10-12 superset with Dips - 3xfailure
Rope Pushdowns superset with Overhead Rope Pushdowns - 3x15

 

[Anabolic5150]

Trained like that for a while, even on high doses of AAA, could not recover even if only running it for 4 weeks. But if it works for you, do it.

BlueJayMuscle, instead of a new program, maybe just change your rep ranges around. Go higher one week, lower the next. Or do high reps for 4 weeks, lower for 4.

 

[NoCode8511]

Trained like that for a while, even on high doses of AAA, could not recover even if only running it for 4 weeks. But if it works for you, do it.

I started this like 2 years back and have made major gains using it. I only run it 2-3 times a year.

OP - good log man, keep it up!

 

[Anabolic5150]

I started this like 2 years back and have made major gains using it. I only run it 2-3 times a year.

OP - good log man, keep it up!

You found the secret, what works for you. Sometimes, that is the hardest part.

 

[bmw]

This is not overtraining... It may be for some people but I'm used to high volume exercise.

Also the best routines to promote hypertrophy for compound exercises are 3-6 sets of 8-12 reps tentatively depending on the person.

The first and foremost signs of overtraining are elevated resting heart rate and fatigue and I have neither.

Precycle RHR 55 bpm
This week RHR avg 52 bpm

My routine is on my first post with my stats and if you read that you'd know it's not overtraining.

I am looking for a new routine though to restimulate muscles. Suggestions?

Stats:
Age: 22
Weight: 192.5 (I wanna be >200 solid)
Height: 5'11"
bf%: 9.85% (I wanna be like 7 or 8)
Training seriously for 6 years

AAS History: Sustanon 250 by itself. Sustanon 250 w/ Dbol. Test e by itself. Test e w/ Dbol.
(Have only used Gen Shi and GP gear)

You're 22 and you've run what looks to be like 4 cycles. Is that correct? When did you start cycling? How long are your cycles? I think the reason you've done 4 cycles and you still aren't over 200 lbs is number one your workout (too much volume not enough rest, and number two your diet. You should eat more and workout less. You say you've been training seriously for 6 years? I don't know too many 16 year olds who are training seriously. I'm not saying you're lying I'm just doubting your recollection or your definition of "training seriously".

If what you were doing wasn't working so remarkably well for you, and you came to me, I'd set you up on a routine with way less volume, heavy ass weight, and more frequency, but still have you only in the gym 3 days a week. You'd run this in cycles for 4-8 weeks, then deload for 2-3 weeks, then go again. I'd also have you consuming way more food/calories, with a goal to get to 400-500 grams of protein a day.

If you did that right, even without AAS, you would likely gain 15-20 pounds in 3-4 months.

But I'm glad what you're doing is working so well. As long as you're progressing and gaining month after month and year after year, don't change a thing (serious).

 

[BlueJayMuscle]

You're 22 and you've run what looks to be like 4 cycles. Is that correct? When did you start cycling? How long are your cycles? I think the reason you've done 4 cycles and you still aren't over 200 lbs is number one your workout (too much volume not enough rest, and number two your diet. You should eat more and workout less. You say you've been training seriously for 6 years? I don't know too many 16 year olds who are training seriously. I'm not saying you're lying I'm just doubting your recollection or your definition of "training seriously".

If what you were doing wasn't working so remarkably well for you, and you came to me, I'd set you up on a routine with way less volume, heavy ass weight, and more frequency, but still have you only in the gym 3 days a week. You'd run this in cycles for 4-8 weeks, then deload for 2-3 weeks, then go again. I'd also have you consuming way more food/calories, with a goal to get to 400-500 grams of protein a day.

If you did that right, even without AAS, you would likely gain 15-20 pounds in 3-4 months.

But I'm glad what you're doing is working so well. As long as you're progressing and gaining month after month and year after year, don't change a thing (serious).

It was two cycles. I was simply stating what my body has endured. I started at 20 years old I know that's early but yes I was training seriously at 16.

I was on my high schools weight lifting team and was working out 3 days a week without watching diet like 14-16 then started keeping a clean diet and everything. I worked out for strength in high school. I also wrestled at 145 lbs then when I was 17 at 152 lbs and that was at 6% bf (aka wasn't trying to gain weight). I was in great shape.

Then wanted to gain mass. By 19 I was up to 175 then cycled at 20 and gained up to 190 bloated but like the young idiot I was didn't retain much because of diet and incorrect hormone therapy. But second cycle got to 185 lean and stayed there for a while. Started this cycle a little above 190 now at 196 lbs 4 weeks in at 7.65% bf measured today with calipers.

I'm also a certified personal trainer (I know that's not saying much these days haha) so yeah I get what you're saying. I still have yet to find the "perfect" diet thats enough calories and protein to gain muscle mass but not fat (no I'm not into bulking and cutting)

I am well on my way to my goal weight of 220 lbs and 6-7% bf that's what I'd like to stay at my whole life.

Thanks for the suggestions