gonna start my first cycle of test e

[Reigning Blood]

Yeah bro, for your own health you should wait.

Agreed - if you just eat about 250g of protein/day and hit the weights hard, you'll grow easily.

 

[cavtrooper96]

I think this guy would rather fuck himself for the rest of his life for some quick gains!

 

[mumuownsu]

good point bro
how do u suggest i add it into my cycle?

 

[mumuownsu]

how do u suggest i add it into my cycle bud? coz uv got a good point

 

[mumuownsu]

and i heard by doing it that way ur gains arent as good is thta true?

 

[Db52280]

Yes it will hinder your gains some. Now if you want people to help you starting answering questions that people asked you. There are about 100 threads on this very topic. In fact there is a sticky call first cycle and pct.

 

[Db52280]

I think this guy would rather fuck himself for the rest of his life for some quick gains!

 

[liftshit0409]

If you are going with this then If i was you I would bump the test E up to 500ml a week, Trust me, you will regret wasting your time and money doing 250. Just my opinion

I am 19 now and I did 250/week of test e through out my 18th year, and I had some pretty good gains. The reason I did low doses is because of my age. 250 should be fine for now. Go up about your 2nd or 3rd cycle.

 

[The Prototype]

I am 19 now and I did 250/week of test e through out my 18th year, and I had some pretty good gains. The reason I did low doses is because of my age. 250 should be fine for now. Go up about your 2nd or 3rd cycle.

You're advising an 18 year old to use but not only that, you advise him to increase the doseage on 2nd and 3rd cycles for someone who isn't even 21? IMO that's just very bad advice. I've never negged anyone here but I'm tempted in this case. Sorry if I sound rude. Just disappoints me when people point teenagers in the wrong direction.

 

[mumuownsu]

how do u rec i do this? how do i organise it?

 

[Db52280]

how do u rec i do this? how do i organise it?

Wait 5 years and then come back

 

[mumuownsu]

how yo usuggest i do that?

 

[brandon123]

im fair new to steroids but have been researching for a while, always confuses me when people say like you need to gain to your natural potential then use steroids? is this based on the theory of steroids closing growth plates in bones?

i think you do need to train natural for a 3-5 years so you can learn about training, diet, rest, supplements and how your body responds to routines and what is best for your body, this couldn't be achieved on steroids because majority of gains would be due 2 steroids but yeh i dunno

If you are confused by this, then you should stay away from roids till u figure out what natural potential is

 

[Aaza86]

hey guys was planning on starting my first cycle:
tell me what you think?

Im 18 aprox 185cm
81kg
Body type pretty athletic body
Been working out at the gym for 4 years on and off.
Cycle:
week 1 250mg test e
week 2 250mg test e
week 3 250mg test e
week 4 250mg test e
week 5 250mg test e
week 6 250mg test e
week 7 250mg test e
week 8 250mg test e
week 9 250mg test e
week 10 250mg test e
And if all goes to plan ill maybe up from 250 to 500? After week 4?
And start Clomid therapy 18 days after last injection
[FONT=&quot]Day 1 - 300mg [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Day 2-11 - 100mg/day [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Day 12-21 - 50mg/day [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]My queston is what else would i need and is this cycle enough to make good gains =] ?[/FONT]

id do 500mg of test-enth a week for 12week maybe throw in 30mg of dbol ed for 4wk just to kick start and see results from the start, id also add 0.5mg of arimidex eod/e3d as u dont wana reduce estrogen 2 much because it aids in the muscle building process and increases growth hormone output. id also add nolvedex to ur pct 20mg ed for 4 weeks. nolvedex is just as efficient at raising ur test levels as clomid is, 150mg of clomid is roughly equal to 40mg of nolva at stimulatin ur tests. hope this info helps bro

 

[liftshit0409]

You're advising an 18 year old to use but not only that, you advise him to increase the doseage on 2nd and 3rd cycles for someone who isn't even 21? IMO that's just very bad advice. I've never negged anyone here but I'm tempted in this case. Sorry if I sound rude. Just disappoints me when people point teenagers in the wrong direction.

I'm just saying that I did it and I had a very good pct, and i recently had got an test to see where my testosterone levels were and they were healthy, i agree that it is a big risk, but by the way he is talking.. he's gonna do it regardless to what anyone says. A strong pct is key.

 

[mumuownsu]

cheers aazaa86

another question is could i pull off not use hcg ?

 

[Aaza86]

cheers aazaa86

another question is could i pull off not use hcg ?

i dont ever use hcg in my cycles or for pct iv read so much on the drug and found ther is so many contradictions out ther that its hard to no wots the proper way to use it effectivley... HCG administration post-cycle is common practice among bodybuilders in the belief that it will aid the natural testosterone recovery, but this theory is unfounded and also counterproductive. The rapid rise in both testosterone, and thus oestrogen due to aromatisation, from the administration of HCG causes further inhibition of the HPTA (Hypothalamic/Pituitary/Testicular Axis); this actually worsens the recovery situation. HCG does not restore the natural testosterone production it only acts as LH. clomid and nolvedex is sufficient enuf 2 bring everything back 2 size and 2 workin order no need to add hcg, its the most misused and misunderstood drug in bodybuilding imo...

 

[GFR]

Post some pics

 

[petey2005]

Are your guys sure about the 500mg business? I gained 28 pounds on my first cycle with a simple pop ampoule of sustanon 250 a week. lol - on a side note, I was too young and hadn't naturally gained any wight yet so I got some major stretch markage.

 

[Digitalash]

Agreed - if you just eat about 250g of protein/day and hit the weights hard, you'll grow easily.

doesn't matter how much protein you eat if you don't get enough calories, just sayin