Guaranteed Muscle

[John H.]

Originally posted by Spitfire
Yo, why dont you understand that you are not encouraging anyone, your scareing the shit out of us, not to mention weirding us out, why dont you take a new approach to "encouraging" people like normallity. It works much better

Spitfire. How old ARE you? Reread my original post which started this thread. How does that "scar(e) the shit out of us..."? Now a person CAN develop a scary body - one that is so damn good even he could pass out in disbelief - what's wrong with having a body that well developed? I simply said that IF a person focuses on the basics and stays with it and all aspects and perserveres he can not help but gain Muscle - GUARANTEED. The quality and size, etc. will depend on how much he is willing to put into the effort, his program, nutrition, rest, etc. Being honest about that and all aspects of it GUARANTEES MUSCLE.

How do you think I am "...weirding us out..."? That makes no sense at all. To say that actually sounds juvenile.

I stand by what I have said.

John H.

 

[Spitfire]

Im 12.5 almost 13, whats your point.

 

[myCATpowerlifts]

lol

 

[j.h.ater]

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Originally posted by John H.
"My chest Muscles will be remembered and will the rest of my body. "


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

what a joke!

sure; we'll remember what your pecs look like and then we'll find you with your shirt off, and then chase you around calling you names!

give me (and the rest of us) a break. give up already, dude.

 

[once was fat]

This guy john h is really confused. Reminds me of one of those kids from children of the corn. Malakai

 

[camarosuper6]

I have to say, these three pages of thread get my Official

"POINTLESS THREAD OF THE YEAR AWARD"

 

[Mudge]

Originally posted by John H.
Muscle weighs more that fat. MUCH BETTER!

By volume yes, making a 6'1" 193 pound guy pretty darn small. I am way over that number and not that big.

Now 5'7" 205 @ 7% bodyfat on the other hand looks pretty darn good, not yet huge still.

 

[CowPimp]

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Originally posted by John H.
Cow. Obviously you have never had someone hate you or be bigoted towards you or you would not write such statements. You have NO IDEA whatsoever what you are talking about personally speaking. My chest Muscles will be remembered and will the rest of my body.

I was not born yesterday. I know the risks a person can take. Yes I have said I am BiSexual. It IS a very natural part of life and living as is Heterosexuality and Homosexuality. Variety DOES EXIST in all things in life and living including Sexuality. BUT I am aware of the hatred and the bigotry some "religious types" place on this and that is WITHOUT any truthfulness or accuracy. Like I said, "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure" - My family and friends do not need the b. s. that is associated with bigoted and hateful people but I will speak my mind truthfully and accurately about whatever - anonymously - "John H." is NOT my real name (I have stated this in the past) and where I say I live is not my real place of residence. Given the attitude and the nastiness of some I can speak without personally being affected by the ignorance - and stupidity - and bigotry. Do NOT take that as ME being at all worried PERSONALLY - I CAN AND HAVE AND WILL TAKE CARE OF MYSELF - do not doubt that!

I am not "lazy" and I do not "lie" - I have no reason to be associated with being either at all. People that know me personally know that for sure. I have nothing to hide. I am not unreasonable at all. How old are you? Can you conduct a conversation as an adult? Are you a Man? I WORK with Men each and every day - they KNOW me for sure. And I them. We get along very well and many are my close friends. Some lifelong.

John H.

Alright, first of all there is a very slim chance that I, or anyone else on this board, will ever see you in real life. Second of all, there is a very slim chance that if I were to sight you then you wouldn't have your shirt on. Finally, there is absolutely no chance that I would remember your chest. How can you possibly tell yourself that I would recognize some guy's chest that I saw a picture of on the Internet. Finally, I have had plenty of people be hateful towards me for various reasons. Granted, I don't have experience with persecution for being homosexual, but everyone has had their share of problems concerning people's opinions about them.

Your second paragraph is a completely off-topic rant that makes no sense.

What does my age have to do with anything? In what way have I not conducted myself as an adult? I simply think that you are being completely unreasonable. I would approximate the chance of seeing your picture on the Internet and then randomly running into you in real life without your shirt on and recognizing your body to about 1 in a billion. The chance is virtually zero.

I could really care less if you post pictures of yourself or not. I just wanted to understand why you wouldn't do it, because some people do seem to care. You obviously have no good reason. The only reason why is because your view of reality is completely warped and you can't stay on topic. You keep babbling about how homosexualism is natural and variety is the spice of life, etc. What does that have to do with anything?

You boggle my mind with your insane ranting.

 

[once was fat]

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Originally posted by CowPimp
The only reason why is because your view of reality is completely warped and you can't stay on topic. You keep babbling about how homosexualism is natural and variety is the spice of life, etc. What does that have to do with anything?

You boggle my mind with your insane ranting.

Lol.

 

[Spitfire]

^^LOL^^

 

[John H.]

Originally posted by Spitfire
Im 12.5 almost 13, whats your point.

Spitfire. If you are speaking to me... If you are referring to the size of your Biceps at this measurement they could be very good if they are also representative of the rest of your body and you are well built. Size is not the only way to determine if a Man is well-built. You can (meaning anyone here) can have Biceps that measure 12.5 almost 13 and be damn good for your size overall.

The point of my creating this thread was to encourage all Men to DO their very best and stay with it and that your Muscle IS GUARANTEED if you pay close attention to the basics and perservere.

Where all the hatefulness from some posting here is coming from given the original topic leads me to believe there are some childish people here - those that are not grown up and adult and willing to discuss as a Man.

If you want to listen to what I have to say, fine. If not, fine. But what I said originally is absolutely the truth. I was addressing those that might be thinking they will not get what they want - I am saying THEY WILL IF they STAY WITH IT intelligently and perservere. GUARANTEED MUSCLE. It WILL happen!

John H.

 

[maddog1]

Ok, so your name is not John and your not from Meadeville Pa. What else isn't true? How can people believe anything you say? I'll save you the trouble - "I have to protect me and my family and I can definitely do that for SURE."
You came onto a bodybuilding forum and have used it to propogate your abherrent sexual views. The only thing you have done is solidify other's positions against it. When you hear people say you are "weirding" them out, you are doing just this.
"But maddog, I just want you to have an open mind and be open and receptive to all positions and all natural ways of living."
People for the most part are highly educated and have had college and grad school (and school of life) courses in world religion, human sexuality, etc. and have already decided which ones they choose to follow. It seems you are wasting your time here and that of others. Why don't you find a religous or sexual forum where you can present your ideas.

 

[John H.]

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Originally posted by CowPimp
Alright, first of all there is a very slim chance that I, or anyone else on this board, will ever see you in real life. Second of all, there is a very slim chance that if I were to sight you then you wouldn't have your shirt on. Finally, there is absolutely no chance that I would remember your chest. How can you possibly tell yourself that I would recognize some guy's chest that I saw a picture of on the Internet. Finally, I have had plenty of people be hateful towards me for various reasons. Granted, I don't have experience with persecution for being homosexual, but everyone has had their share of problems concerning people's opinions about them.

Your second paragraph is a completely off-topic rant that makes no sense.

What does my age have to do with anything? In what way have I not conducted myself as an adult? I simply think that you are being completely unreasonable. I would approximate the chance of seeing your picture on the Internet and then randomly running into you in real life without your shirt on and recognizing your body to about 1 in a billion. The chance is virtually zero.

I could really care less if you post pictures of yourself or not. I just wanted to understand why you wouldn't do it, because some people do seem to care. You obviously have no good reason. The only reason why is because your view of reality is completely warped and you can't stay on topic. You keep babbling about how homosexualism is natural and variety is the spice of life, etc. What does that have to do with anything?

You boggle my mind with your insane ranting.

Cow. My reasons for not posting a photograph of myself I have stated. I made that statement by way of an explanation for those that are discussing as an adult.

The second paragraph was in answer to a comment / question posed to me as to why I was not posting a photo of myself. I can post a photo of someone who is an honest representative of me since I have been asked to post a photo and I explained why it was not a photo of me. Whether you care or not is not material. I was offering this as a way of those that wanted to know truthfully to have some idea.

As to me asking your age, given the reply you have made I felt it necessary to ask - you sound as if you are younger and not necessarily willing to have a discussion as an adult. You say you wanted to understand why I would not post a photo of myself - I answered that question as an adult. I know what I am talking about and my reasons. If it was just me and no one else would be affected I would post my photos - I know what I have done to accomplish my goals. Those that know me personally know as well. The photos I posted were actually chosen by a couple of Men who know me and they said to me that I certainly looked very much like these men - thus I borrowed these photos based on their unbiased opinions. I have asked others showing them the photos and they have also agreed. I did not even know about these photos myself, they were brought to my attention by others who know me. Also, I am not a person that goes around bragging necessarily or feel I am so "special".

The reason I spoke about the variations that do exist in Sexuality - Heterosexuality, BiSexuality and Homosexuality is because they are all a very natural part of life and living whether you, I or anyone else agree or not. Read this book which gives scientific information about the naturalness: BIOLOGICAL EXUBERANCE, by Bruce Bagemihl (St. Martin´s Press).

I am completely in touch with the way things ARE. I can most definitely defend myself but I am not willing that my family and friends have to experience the b. s. that exists in this world. Some of those that have commented here on this thread for example are proof of their immaturity and total lack of any understanding about life and living.

John H.

 

[John H.]

Originally posted by maddog1
Ok, so your name is not John and your not from Meadeville Pa. What else isn't true? How can people believe anything you say? I'll save you the trouble - "I have to protect me and my family and I can definitely do that for SURE."
You came onto a bodybuilding forum and have used it to propogate your abherrent sexual views. The only thing you have done is solidify other's positions against it. When you hear people say you are "weirding" them out, you are doing just this.
"But maddog, I just want you to have an open mind and be open and receptive to all positions and all natural ways of living."
People for the most part are highly educated and have had college and grad school (and school of life) courses in world religion, human sexuality, etc. and have already decided which ones they choose to follow. It seems you are wasting your time here and that of others. Why don't you find a religous or sexual forum where you can present your ideas.

Mad. Those are the only things that are not true - for obvious reasons. I am not the only person to not truly give their name and location. (Meadville does not have an "e" after the "d" in Meadville). Everything else is absolutely true. You can choose to believe it or not. I could not care less.

I came to this site to discuss as an adult - all things including Bodybuilding.

You mention that people "for the most part are highly educated and have had college and grad school..." - I know of some who have had these things and I am not impressed with what they actually learned or accomplished at all. In fact I have talked with many who are Professors at well-known colleges (I speak to all kinds of people) and they tell me many times how they are very upset that many who go to college go there just to take up space and never really honestly want to learn and are there to just party. They also state that many are there because their parents paid for them to be there but that they are not there to actually learn. Talking with some and listening to comments made by some I can believe that is absolutely true. Not everyone is in college to¨"take up space" and "just party" but it sure looks as if far too many are. I personally have learned from all points of life and living and will. I consider all things and all that is said.

How is it that you feel you can tell me what I can and can not say and when? Have you served in war for this country and earned your way? I have. Honorably.

John H.

 

[maddog1]

Yes, I have 5 confirmed kills and then served as a cop later (I have posted pics that confirm this) - to answer your question not that it matters and I don't see what the point of that is. Also, I paid my way through college and grad school and made a point of never missing a class.
I'm am suggesting a forum that would be more on topic for you and didn't say that I could "tell (you) what (you) can and can not say and when"
You are welcome to continue to present your views here, but with each post, you only solidify my feelings on your positions.
I'll be out for awhile, but you are welcome to continue the discussion with others.

 

[Spitfire]

FIRST of all you ask me my AGE dip shit! NOT my BICEPT dize

SECOND Why the FUCK do you keep referring to EVERYONE as 'MEN', whats you PROBLEM with womem?

AND the LAST thing I will EVER type to you

GET A LIFE 'MAN'

 

[Mudge]

If the guy doesn't want to, or has no means to post his own pictures big deal.

Now on the other hand he could have taken other peoples pictures and said they were his own, I have known of two people on the boards who have been caught doing this, pretty stupid.

 

[Spitfire]

This whole threads pretty stupid, funny, but stupid.

 

[kvyd]

12.5-13 is a very small bicep hah

 

[kvyd]

john h your a little weird

 

[myCATpowerlifts]

He just repeats everything he says
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over....etc, you get the picture.

Im starting to really wonder about him...
what if hes not really a person?

What i think is that he made up a lie a long time ago on this board
and now he tried to defend himself in anyway possible....

Sorry John H.
but you really are just a complete weirdo

 

[TriZZle305]

Originally posted by John H.
J. H. Hater. (You must be from www.bodybuilding.com since many there - not all - communicate as you do with others as if they know it all). I guess what was on my mind did not translate into my fingers when I was typing. A pound of anything does weigh a pound. I was speaking of volume and did not state my thoughts correctly.

I can tell you "hating" will eat you up. You are entirely free to hate all you want.

But PURE MUSCLE IS PURE MUSCLE and any MAN that has it KNOWS THAT FOR DAMN SURE AND IS DAMN PROUD TO OWN HIS OWN AND HAVE WORKED FOR AND EARN THEM! To people of this mentality and to those that want them for themselves sincerely I am speaking. For those that like to damn and hate I will not waste your time and please do not waste mine.

John H.

Where are you from? i dont think the "old school" is enough explanation for your odd way of relaying your thoughts.... are you the leader of a muscle cult?

 

[maniclion]

Obviously he's fishing for hot gay bodybuilder guy's who live in PA. You guy's haven't caught onto this? He only talks about how nice men with muscles look and how being gay is natural.

 

[TriZZle305]

am i the only one who thinks this is funny? i laugh everytime i read one of John. H's posts... call me childish if you want to.. im only 16 anyway..

maybe this guy has a wierd sense of humor and is gettin a kick out of rewriting the same arguements about bisexuality and worshiping "pure muscle" his perfect chest to get on everybody's nerves

 

[myCATpowerlifts]

trizzle my nizzel

 

[John H.]

Originally posted by maddog1
Yes, I have 5 confirmed kills and then served as a cop later (I have posted pics that confirm this) - to answer your question not that it matters and I don't see what the point of that is. Also, I paid my way through college and grad school and made a point of never missing a class.
I'm am suggesting a forum that would be more on topic for you and didn't say that I could "tell (you) what (you) can and can not say and when"
You are welcome to continue to present your views here, but with each post, you only solidify my feelings on your positions.
I'll be out for awhile, but you are welcome to continue the discussion with others.

Maddog. Please re-read my original post which started this thread and the subsequent posts others made in their effort to derail the topic. What I said IS TRUE AND VERY ACCURATE. It was made in an effort to encourage those that might think they "will not get there" - THEY WILL IF THEY STICK WITH IT and FOLLOW THE BASICS. That was and is the point to my making this thread. It is GUARANTEED as long as a person is WILLING to earn and work for their goals truthfully.

John H.

 

[John H.]

Originally posted by Spitfire
FIRST of all you ask me my AGE dip shit! NOT my BICEPT dize

SECOND Why the FUCK do you keep referring to EVERYONE as 'MEN', whats you PROBLEM with womem?

AND the LAST thing I will EVER type to you

GET A LIFE 'MAN'

Spitfire. I THOUGHT you were referring to your Biceps size. On a Man that IS VERY WELL BUILT even if they are relatively small in size it does not matter as long as he is well built.

If you are 12.5 or 13 in age then I can understand how and why you would make the comments you made to me you do. You have some growing up to do.

As for Men AND Women I have NO PROBLEM with either. I LIKE people - I could care less what their Gender is - I like PEOPLE. As with anything else some are very good and some are not.

You might want to learn to speak as an adult and a Man - you will be one eventually - at least in age.

John H.

 

[John H.]

Originally posted by Spitfire
This whole threads pretty stupid, funny, but stupid.

Spitfire. Please RE-READ my original post I started this thread with. Read it carefully. IT IS TRUE - PERIOD. It applies to everyone.

John H.

 

[John H.]

Originally posted by kvyd
12.5-13 is a very small bicep hah

Hi Kvyd. I have know Men with Biceps this size but were VERY WELL BUILT - just small in stature overall BUT VERY WELL BUILT - it IS the quality and purity of the Muscle a Man builds that IS important not necessarily their size. I know of some VERY scary small Men - EXTREMELY AND COMPLETELY WELL BUILT - they have EVERY REASON TO BE PROUD of what they have accomplished in my book - BIGTIME!

Take Care, John H.

 

[John H.]

Originally posted by myCATpowerlifts
He just repeats everything he says
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over....etc, you get the picture.

Im starting to really wonder about him...
what if hes not really a person?

What i think is that he made up a lie a long time ago on this board
and now he tried to defend himself in anyway possible....

Sorry John H.
but you really are just a complete weirdo

My. How old are you?

John H.