Have a question...kinda unusual?

[TJ3]

well once again....ill explain


Its not like im totally ripped up top and have flabby unmuscular legs..i havent been working out "that" long.I do work on my legs , pretty much every night , but i am just not as worried about them right now.

so no , im not ignoring them..just not paying as much attention to them as my "top half" right now.I will increase my leg workouts later on.

 

[soxmuscle]

I just find it impossible to believe that somebody who isn't training legs regularly knows two shits about weight training.

 

[TJ3]

I find lots of things impossible to believe....like where this thread has went....

 

[soxmuscle]

Thats what happens when a stubborn person refuses to accept help.

 

[TJ3]

LOL are you serious?
I am wanting to know if anyone has had the nauseated feeling i have before a workout and how to prevent it or what it is..I HAVE NOT ASKED 1 QUESTION ABOUT MY LEGS...i will accept help on things but i am not asking for any on my legs at this time...if youd use your head , youd realize thats what im here for...im ASKING questions on this forum..Im asking for HELP with stuff....so go pound sand...

I appreciate the reccomendation on leg workouts ppl but thats not what i made this thread for...ill take all the advice i can get but i dont need any on legs right now.when and if i do , ill let you guys know...

now if anyone else would have any info on my original question without being an a-hole or without some smart-azz remarks about what i do , id appreciate your info..
-thank you

 

[Built]

You didn't ask about your legs. It's true.

You did mention that you work upper a LOT though - AND that you're getting nauseous.

If you don't want to train legs, I understand. It's okay. I will suggest that you don't use leg extensions at all though, and I'm not trashing your workouts here, they're a shitty movement and you'll hurt your knees. If you do only ONE leg exercise, I'd suggest deadlifts - you'll not only get your leg work done, but you'll work your entire posterior chain: calves, hams, glutes, erectors, traps, hell even lats get a hit, and delts and core as well as grip... but you don't want those so don't worry about it. Just do upper and go for a walk. I'd rather you looked like a lightbulb in a few years than a cripple - lightbulbs can train legs. Please believe me when I tell you to be nice to your knees - you'll miss them when they're gone.

Now back to your workouts. Maybe we can adjust a few things here. Can you tell me what your specific goal is for this next few months of your training?

 

[TJ3]

Thank you...ok good advice , leg extensions are bad. i gotcha. I hear deadlifts are very hard on a person back though? Yes i do "want to train them" just not full force right now , and yes im sure i would miss my knees if they were gone.I have an "injured" knee right now anyways , it kills me to do heavy squats , so thats why i didnt really ever do them.

My goal for the next few months? well if few means 3 , id like to pack on 5lbs of muscle at least by the end of 3 months.Im still working on my diet and calorie intake etc , but if i get all of that straightened out i should be ok. "should".

 

[Built]

Actually, deadlifts are very very GOOD for your back. My buddy's in his sixties, just started doing deads for the first time in his life a couple of years ago (I urged him to give 'em a go) and he told me a few months ago that for the first time in his life, his back doesn't hurt. His posture improved too. It's pretty cool. Plus deads are just flat out fun to do, but again, you're not interested so that's fine. We can find other ways for you to train your back, traps, forearms, delt insertions, core, erectors , grip, and lats. No biggie.

There IS one way you can work leg extensions - only use the top third of the movement, go slow, not too heavy. Good for knee tracking. But not mass building.

I keep getting sidetracked by the leg thing. Sorry.

Now, your diet and your training.

5 lbs of net lean mass gain in three months is a snap.

Do you know how many calories you need in order to maintain currently?

And what part of your body do you want to add the mass to in particular?

 

[Merkaba]

Noone said anything about "working the shit" out of your legs but you.

You showed some extreme ignorance in training, and some of us like to point it out. Usually there is a correlation between such ignorance and many problems one experiences with training. Sorry.


Like I said, you want help for this issue go see a doctor. You might have a clot or valve issue as far as you know.

If youre eating properly,breathing properly, and getting adequate rest between sets I don't know what it would be short of a medical issue, or anxiety.

With that being said, some people can't tolerate working on and empty or a full stomach. I would experiment with pre workout nutrition or get your ass to a doctor and do a stress test before we end up not see you logging in at all anymore!

 

[TJ3]

Noone said anything about "working the shit" out of your legs but you.

You showed some extreme ignorance in training, and some of us like to point it out. Usually there is a correlation between such ignorance and many problems one experiences with training. Sorry.


Like I said, you want help for this issue go see a doctor. You might have a clot or valve issue as far as you know.

If youre eating properly,breathing properly, and getting adequate rest between sets I don't know what it would be short of a medical issue, or anxiety.

With that being said, some people can't tolerate working on and empty or a full stomach. I would experiment with pre workout nutrition or get your ass to a doctor and do a stress test before we end up not see you logging in at all anymore!

LOL here we go....

No noone said anything about working the "shit" out of my legs.But they did however seem to stress the "leg workout" in a more ignorant way , so i responded in an ignorant way.. when people show their ass i have no problem showing mine right back...


Ok i might go see the doctor , thank you for the info , NEXT....there are other people on here that i could hear from as well that might know something about the subject..but thank you for your time

It could be a medical issue , who knows but like i said someone on here could have the same problem and it could be something little.

That was what i was thinking , maybe experiment with pre-workout nutrition , but thanks for your concern , i just might go see a doctor , maybe.

 

[TJ3]

Actually, deadlifts are very very GOOD for your back. My buddy's in his sixties, just started doing deads for the first time in his life a couple of years ago (I urged him to give 'em a go) and he told me a few months ago that for the first time in his life, his back doesn't hurt. His posture improved too. It's pretty cool. Plus deads are just flat out fun to do, but again, you're not interested so that's fine. We can find other ways for you to train your back, traps, forearms, delt insertions, core, erectors , grip, and lats. No biggie.

There IS one way you can work leg extensions - only use the top third of the movement, go slow, not too heavy. Good for knee tracking. But not mass building.

I keep getting sidetracked by the leg thing. Sorry.

Now, your diet and your training.

5 lbs of net lean mass gain in three months is a snap.

Do you know how many calories you need in order to maintain currently?

And what part of your body do you want to add the mass to in particular?

Wow good for your back?? i heard its a good workout but is horrible on the back , but ok sounds good.

I might just stay away from the leg extensions if they are bad in general , id rather build mass on them when the time comes anyways.

a snap? yes it doesnt sound that big of a goal , but my problem right now is eating..i seem to eat eat eat and eat and still not get enough calories in.i didnt really know what my calorie intake was before , but now that i keep track of my stuff i would say a sad 1800 a day.Now i vary , depending on what groceries i have in the fridge haha , thats whats messing me up , and why i was previously asking about a weight gainer to get extra calories in.

I would like to add the mass in the top half of course.a bigger chest , lats , traps , arms , etc.

 

[Built]

I don't know who told you deads were bad for your back! I'm middle-aged and I do deads regularly. Not SUPER heavy mind you, but I can RDL 2 plates a side for a 5-rep set and for my size and age, that's not too horrid, especially considering I have a lower spine deformity.

Listen, can you do hang cleans? Cleans are phenomenal for traps and overall upper body development.

What in particular do you want to bring up on your upper? If you had to pick ONE area, what would it be - delts? Traps? Chest? Lats?

 

[TJ3]

I read it somewhere , but thats why i stayed away from them..all i needed was a injured back ha.

If i had to pick one area as of NOW , id choose lats deffinatly..then chest.

hang cleans?Never really done them but i know what they are..

 

[Built]

Okay, well let's set you up with a lat/pec specialization to start with. Do that for say 5 weeks, then maybe something like delts and lats?

First up though, diet. There is no way around this part, and you're going to hate it. I apologize in advance, but I guarantee this will work and it's free.

FitDay - Free Weight Loss and Diet Journal

Track your intake. I need to see what your average day looks like, so enter a "typical" day and post up or PM me the numbers to the left of the pie chart.

I need to see what your numbers are - total calories, grams protein, carb and fat. I don't give a rat's ass about your food choices, only what they turn into.

 

[TJ3]

Okay, well let's set you up with a lat/pec specialization to start with. Do that for say 5 weeks, then maybe something like delts and lats?

First up though, diet. There is no way around this part, and you're going to hate it. I apologize in advance, but I guarantee this will work and it's free.

FitDay - Free Weight Loss and Diet Journal

Track your intake. I need to see what your average day looks like, so enter a "typical" day and post up or PM me the numbers to the left of the pie chart.

I need to see what your numbers are - total calories, grams protein, carb and fat. I don't give a rat's ass about your food choices, only what they turn into.

Ok sounds good..

I know ha. yay fitday...ill mess with it and see what i can get ya.

ok sounds good

 

[RasPlasch]

Ok sounds good..

I know ha. yay fitday...ill mess with it and see what i can get ya.

ok sounds good

You're in for a lot of pain the day after you do cleans for the first time.

 

[VILBAUGH]

I read it somewhere , but thats why i stayed away from them..all i needed was a injured back ha.

If i had to pick one area as of NOW , id choose lats deffinatly..then chest.

hang cleans?Never really done them but i know what they are..

I would suggest developing your squat before attemping any Olympic lifting.

Dont sweat everyone losing it on you routine. If you read any stickies or done any significant research you would not have discredited yourself by posting such rubbish. If you decide to take any advice from here, you'll understand in a few months. You're already way ahead of the game, at least you get your ass to the gym.

Question for built; obviously you employ hang cleans for hytrophy...are you doing them for reps? If so, at what intensity?

 

[Built]

VILBAUGH, I just wrote about how I employ them, here: Got Built? » The Shoulders of Giants