HDrol/Androhard Cycle Advise

[USSR]

Alright bros I'm planning an Hdrol/Androhard cycle and am looking for some advise. I'm going to be doing a lean bulk. So far this is what I got:

Hdrol:50/75/75/75/75/75
AH: 2 caps am-2caps pm for the six weeks I'm on Hdrol so 4 a day for 6 weeks

Going to take AI cycle support during cycle.

PCT: Testosterone Recovery Stack by Primordial Performance

Should I add a SERM? I'd like to avoid a SERM if possible considering the cost and some of the side effects I hear. Help on PCT would definitely be appreciated, I heard some people taking OTC pct and doing fine but I don't want to lose my gains.

Any input would be great thanks!

 

[Rodja]

You'll definitely want a low-dose SERM for this. On their own, they aren't overly suppressive, but they will cause more shutdown when stacked.

 

[USSR]

You'll definitely want a low-dose SERM for this. On their own, they aren't overly suppressive, but they will cause more shutdown when stacked.

Thanks for the response. Damn. Any recommendations? Torem I heard was great with loser sides and quicker bounceback. I'm just not sure what the dosage would be for this cycle so that info would be great. And should I still keep the TRS? Thanks.

 

[Rodja]

Use the Tor in conjunction with the TRS. Dosage would be 90/60/60/30.

 

[USSR]

Great thanks man!

 

[Rodja]

No problem. I also have a coupon code for TRS and TCF-1, if interested

 

[USSR]

Just wanted to add if you guys think this cycle would be worth it? I did the math and this cycle would cost $372! Thats with the TRS coupon too. Holy shit man. Realistically you guys think this is worth that much? I already have AH so no PP supp pushing on me to buy lol. I make meager meager money so some serious input on this would be much much appreciated.

If you know cheaper sites please tell me lol!

 

[GMO]

Run SuperDMZ for 4 weeks followed by a clomid PCT of 50/50/25/25. That will blow you the hell up...

 

[BigBlackGuy]

Just wanted to add if you guys think this cycle would be worth it? I did the math and this cycle would cost $372! Thats with the TRS coupon too. Holy shit man. Realistically you guys think this is worth that much? I already have AH so no PP supp pushing on me to buy lol. I make meager meager money so some serious input on this would be much much appreciated.

If you know cheaper sites please tell me lol!

Don't get the TRS. Just get a SERM.

GMO's suggestion isn't bad, but if you already have the hdrol and AH... then go for it. If not, Super-DMZ+AH would make a sick cycle as well and MAY cut down on cost.

 

[USSR]

Don't get the TRS. Just get a SERM.

GMO's suggestion isn't bad, but if you already have the hdrol and AH... then go for it. If not, Super-DMZ+AH would make a sick cycle as well and MAY cut down on cost.

Thanks for the responses guys! I honestly make shit money so that previous setup was way too expensive for me. I have the AH on the way, should be here sometime early next week. Cutting out TRS would save $90 and clomid over torem would save another $10 so thats $100 right there.

What would the dosage be for a Super DMZ/AH cycle? Any info on Super DMZ would be great too since I don't know a lot about it I'm researching it though.

Thanks.

 

[R1balla]

you have a few options here:

Serm

TRS + low dose Serm

TRS + TCF 1

i put them in order of importance. if you can get a serm, get one. if u were doing AH alone, i would say TRS is perfectly fine

 

[USSR]

you have a few options here:

Serm

TRS + low dose Serm

TRS + TCF 1

i put them in order of importance. if you can get a serm, get one. if u were doing AH alone, i would say TRS is perfectly fine

Thanks for the response. I'm definitely doing a leaner bulk. I'll use clomid as my SERM. Just deciding if I want to run HDrol or Super-DMZ with AH. If anyone can tell me how to dose Super-DMZ with AH that would be great. I know SDMZ is 1-2 caps a day but I don't know the dosage with AHin the mix. I read very very positive things about SDMZ but I heard a lot of feedback that its acid for your liver lol and that its a very hard ph. This info would be much appreciated.

 

[Pika]

Hdrol is one of the best first time ph's cycle so stick with that and 4 caps would be 100mg, maybe you should spend all that money on more food insted

 

[USSR]

Hdrol is one of the best first time ph's cycle so stick with that and 4 caps would be 100mg, maybe you should spend all that money on more food insted

Lol I have no problem with food I get in plenty plenty cals I've been lifting for a while so its not like I'm a newbie looking for magic in a bottle lol.

 

[Pika]

Then id say h drol is your best bet

 

[USSR]

Thanks for everyone who helped me! I'm doing an Hdrol+AH cycle with clomid pct. One last question if anyone wants to answer.

Can I still use my White Flood while on this cycle? I've read in some places to avoid it while on cycle I love that shit though but if I can't use it I can't use it. This info would be great. Thanks.

 

[Pika]

I would't use it as high bb but its up to you .... Is your pct just that serm? Maybe pick up a t booster and a c blocker umm yh

Whats your cals for this cycle??

 

[USSR]

I would't use it as high bb but its up to you .... Is your pct just that serm? Maybe pick up a t booster and a c blocker umm yh

Whats your cals for this cycle??

I already have Lean Xtreme. I was thinking about picking up a T Booster like Bioforge or Active Xtreme to add to PCT. Also will be using Cycle Assist on cycle.

Might get shit for this but I never cal counted on a bulk, only when I cut...maybe thats why I hate cutting lol.

 

[Pika]

Hmm i guess couting aint everythin as long as you know what you put in your body, but i think you shoukd honestly count them if your going on a cycle because some days you might be hitting 3500cals abd others could be 3000 big diffrents .

How are you train while on this ?

 

[leaninmizzou]

H DROL WILL GIVE U VERY OILY SKIN AND HORRIBLE BACK PUMPS , andro hard WILL break u out on your shoulders , so prepare for them to make eachother worse , u should ALWAYS use a serm , or something prescription grade, get some test pro, or something with high dose of testafen, to reboot your natty test,u need to cut the h drol back to 3 caps a day 4 really will just cramp u up , and run the andro hard at 6 caps a day, 3 in am , 3 in pm, you will get good hard results, good luck , both those compounds are pretty weak , personally if im gonna put something harsh in my body im just gonna go with the big boy stuff , M-drol and andro hard stack very nicely, and u WILL get big and lean i promise

 

[Pika]

H drol isnt that harsh tho m drol can have huge side efects so if your going to put somthink as harsh and that in your body id do a test cycle

Back pumps yes bad? Maybe not lol .. Some people report that tgey feel good lool just drink plenty of water stick with h drol, m drol is some harsh stuff bro.

 

[R1balla]

just get bulk DAA or TCF 1 to add to PCT

 

[ryansm]

just get bulk DAA or TCF 1 to add to PCT

^^^This, DAA is your best option for adding to PCT and it's cheap

 

[Rodja]

H DROL WILL GIVE U VERY OILY SKIN AND HORRIBLE BACK PUMPS , andro hard WILL break u out on your shoulders , so prepare for them to make eachother worse , u should ALWAYS use a serm , or something prescription grade, get some test pro, or something with high dose of testafen, to reboot your natty test,u need to cut the h drol back to 3 caps a day 4 really will just cramp u up , and run the andro hard at 6 caps a day, 3 in am , 3 in pm, you will get good hard results, good luck , both those compounds are pretty weak , personally if im gonna put something harsh in my body im just gonna go with the big boy stuff , M-drol and andro hard stack very nicely, and u WILL get big and lean i promise

Nothing is absolute. Just because you reacted a certain way to a certain compound does not mean that it is universal.

 

[sofargone561]

H drol isnt that harsh tho m drol can have huge side efects so if your going to put somthink as harsh and that in your body id do a test cycle

Back pumps yes bad? Maybe not lol .. Some people report that tgey feel good lool just drink plenty of water stick with h drol, m drol is some harsh stuff bro.

this^^ Primordial Performance shit is good and all but the prices are insane just do a test cycle bro ull probably same about the same amout and its better for

 

[BigBlackGuy]

this^^ Primordial Performance shit is good and all but the prices are insane just do a test cycle bro ull probably same about the same amout and its better for

What I take from this is... buy Primordial Performance.

In all seriousness though I do understand your point, but a lot of people opt to go the legal route with ph/ds.

 

[sofargone561]

What I take from this is... buy Primordial Performance.

In all seriousness though I do understand your point, but a lot of people opt to go the legal route with ph/ds.

oh i completely understand where your coming from. i actually was gonna do a ph cycle and add andro lean but after a lot of research weighing the pros and cons and the prices i just went out all out and said fuck it. if your staying with PH becuase of legal issues then go for it

 

[ryansm]

Quality and innovation tend to not be cheap

 

[Rodja]

oh i completely understand where your coming from. i actually was gonna do a ph cycle and add andro lean but after a lot of research weighing the pros and cons and the prices i just went out all out and said fuck it. if your staying with PH becuase of legal issues then go for it

Too many people ignore this aspect. The AndroSeries was designed to be a legal alternative to AAS.

 

[HereToStudy]

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