HELP Cycle of QV Test Cyp and Winny

[AdidasFire]

Need help in setting up a cycle of QualityVets Test Cyp (Teston QV 200) and QualityVets Winstrol (Stan QV 10), and also worried about estrogen levels rising because my test levels will of course be up from the test.
I am planing on a 10 week cycle starting for the first 2 weeks of 1cc 2x week. So I am starting out at 400mg/wk. then the rest of the cycle 1.25cc 2x week for a total of a nice 500mg of test. 19 days before my last shot start the Stan QV 10 taking 1 10mg pill 3x day spacing it out throughout the day for the next 33 days. My goals are to try and keep what I have gained at the end for as long as possible and with little water retention. So to the question of the estrogen blockers like 6-oxo. I was thinking of starting this at the begging of my cycle, since from what I understand, there is a ratio of test/estro; so if test goes up so does the estro. And stop the 6-oxo when my last shot of cyp is done, and start something like clomid, (natural test upper) at my last shot. Then the ratio of test/estro will start getting right again. I may be wrong about alot of this so any help is greatly appreciated.


Thanks in advanced

 

[gococksDJS]

Im not sure if I understand what you wrote, but your running the winny after the test? If so, why not just run it while on the test? The winny does is way to low. There's no reason to only take 400mg's of test the first week when the rest of the cycle is 500mgs/week. 6-oxo is complete shit, you need to get some nolva, and you don't start PCT right after your last shot, you need to wait about 10-14 days before you start PCT. If you wanted to run an inhibitor the whole cycle, you would probably want something like adex or letro or you could just take 20mg's nolva everyday throughout the cycle.The amount of gains you retain depend on you and your PCT. Read up a lot more before you start this cycle, because it seems like you are a little mixed up as what to do. Sorry I didn't go into much detal, but research your cycle some more bro.

 

[LAM]

Need help in setting up a cycle of QualityVets Test Cyp (Teston QV 200) and QualityVets Winstrol (Stan QV 10), and also worried about estrogen levels rising because my test levels will of course be up from the test.
I am planing on a 10 week cycle starting for the first 2 weeks of 1cc 2x week. So I am starting out at 400mg/wk. then the rest of the cycle 1.25cc 2x week for a total of a nice 500mg of test. 19 days before my last shot start the Stan QV 10 taking 1 10mg pill 3x day spacing it out throughout the day for the next 33 days. My goals are to try and keep what I have gained at the end for as long as possible and with little water retention. So to the question of the estrogen blockers like 6-oxo. I was thinking of starting this at the begging of my cycle, since from what I understand, there is a ratio of test/estro; so if test goes up so does the estro. And stop the 6-oxo when my last shot of cyp is done, and start something like clomid, (natural test upper) at my last shot. Then the ratio of test/estro will start getting right again. I may be wrong about alot of this so any help is greatly appreciated.


Thanks in advanced

how many winny tabs do you have ?

 

[AdidasFire]

I have 100 10mg QV winny tabs. What does PCT mean? And yes I have decided to do more research first. I would like to know all the details first. Thats why I am picking at everyones brain. Thanks again. Anyone else have any more suggestions. And is it okay to do winny half way through the cycle and finish 19 days after total of 33 days 3 tabs day = 100tabs. Thanx!

 

[LAM]

PCT = post cycle therapy (see the stickies at the top)

run the cycle like this:

week 1-10 - test @ 500 mg/wk
week 8-10 - winstrol @ 50 mg/ED

 

[AdidasFire]

okay thank you. And how do I get liquid nolva. by buddy i got gear from was basc. saying if your tits start hurting get some liquid nolva. And can you help with PCT, minimizing water weight, and getting estro/test levels back to norms at the end. I already have some 6-oxo on the way. I already know stay away from sodium and such. I can get QV gear anytime. Would it be wise to do a cyp/deca/winstrol for first cycle. Not sure. I think I am good for a first time first cycle at cyp/winstrol


I am 21/6'0/167 Thankx again!

 

[deeno]

I am 21/6'0/167 Thankx again!

How long have you been training for?

 

[AdidasFire]

Intense training started july 16th 2002-dec 10th 2002 - basic traing (not real intense just maintnece jan 1 '03 - aug 01 '04. motorcycle accident nov 23 '04 surgery blah blah blah started intense training again jan 24th '05.

I am in good shape. Hard for me to run on only half an acl in one leg. I get cardio from swimming and a little bit of cycling still too.

Adidas

 

[deeno]

In 3 weeks of intense training have you gained back what you lost due to the accident? If not, best bet is to hold off on the juice bud; you'll make gains regardless.

Do you not plan to train legs due to the injury?

Intense training started july 16th 2002-dec 10th 2002 - basic traing (not real intense just maintnece jan 1 '03 - aug 01 '04. motorcycle accident nov 23 '04 surgery blah blah blah started intense training again jan 24th '05.

I am in good shape. Hard for me to run on only half an acl in one leg. I get cardio from swimming and a little bit of cycling still too.

Adidas

 

[Tha Don]

i agree with deeno, with those stats, your training history and the fact your still carrying a leg injury you certainly shouldn't be thinking about jucing just yet

 

[ZECH]

At 6' and 167lb, you need to eat. If you can't gain eating, you don't need the steriods.

 

[AdidasFire]

Okay thanks for you help. I do what I can with my leg. I try to isolate the muscle as much as possible and just work on building the muscles up around the knee. I guess I may hold off then. And I am gaining alot of weight. In the past 2 months I have gained 20 lbs.

Adidas

 

[AdidasFire]

I hear Deca is good for ligaments and such. Not going to use deca or anything now that you steer me away. But is that true?


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[19-chief]

I hear Deca is good for ligaments and such. Not going to use deca or anything now that you steer me away. But is that true?


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