Here is the guy I'm getting my most recent advice from.

[Johnnny]

Mudge I'm not putting words in anyone's mouth. P-Funk made it sound like he was criticising him.

You all still misunderstand. I'm not training with him, nor do I pay him for any advice. He knows me & gives me advice once in awhile because he knows me.

The way he looks now is still in good shape with even a bit more size but natural. As he's not as ripped as he always was when on drugs.

As for knowing his sh!t he does just as I said he has taken a personal training certification course from Roy Callender & an exam which tests his knowledge on all the science behind training, diet & everything else that's important. The clients I've seen him train usually end up getting in very good shape or muscle depending on what their goals are.

When I first saw this one 45yr old male client of his who just started last summer has cut down & put on a descent amount of muscle.

aztecwolf as for this being a thread, all I wanted was ppl's feed back on his physique drugs or not. In return all this BS became of it.

Let's get this straight. I don't train with him. I don't pay him for advice. He gives me advice for free every so often on routines, exercises, form & diet because he knows me. & the last couple of years, he's been training naturally & still holding good size & condition although not as ripped as in the photo from a few yrs ago. He always puts his clients goals first & puts the proper routines & diet plans into motion to help his clients achieve their goals.

I hope this straightens everything out.

 

[aztecwolf]

alright he has a good physique, lets move on

 

[Arnold]

Originally posted by Johnnny
Well it may catch up with you when you're older. I wouldn't do it.

Avoiding eggs, or large quantities of eggs, due to the dietary cholesterol they posses having an effect on blood cholesterol levels is one of the dumbest myths that the medical community started, and it is just that a stupid MYTH.

We strive to debunk stupid myths like that, please do not perpetuate them here.

The main reason that bodybuilders avoid egg yolks is because of the fat content, most of us are not interested in high fat diets.

 

[Johnnny]

Robert DiMaggio so there's no problem eating 6 or more egg yolk's a day?

 

[P-funk]

when bulking I eat anywhere form 8-10 yolks

 

[Arnold]

Originally posted by Johnnny
Robert DiMaggio so there's no problem eating 6 or more egg yolk's a day?

there would be for me because that is too much fat, otherwise no there is nothing wrong with that.

 

[Johnnny]

Robert DiMaggio

there would be for me because that is too much fat

So you do agree that that many egg yolks a day would be high in fat right?

If I eat egg whites this is one of the main reasons I buy the egg whites already seperated.

 

[gr81]

Jesus Christ Johnny just shut the fuck up. WHHHOOOOOOOOOO CARES?? why the hell do you want to know what we think about someone elses physique, especially if he isn't your trainier and has no real relationship to you? You have the dumbest most insignifigant posts and comments. So you know a guy that is ripped and has muscle and has done steroids, WTF!? The only possible reason you have dragged this thread on so long must be that you are fuckin this guy, is that it? By the way can I ask what this thread has to do with training?

 

[supertech]

 

[Arnold]

Originally posted by Johnnny
So you do agree that that many egg yolks a day would be high in fat right?

yes, for me it would be.

 

[Johnnny]

gr81 You are a complet Ahole & has a major attitude problem. Why don't you take your own advice &

just shut the fuck up

Robert DiMaggio you are a moderator. Isn't this sort of thing frowned upon here? Insulting other ppl? I don't appreciate gr81's remarks. I haven't insulted anyone.

gr81

The only possible reason you have dragged this thread on so long must be that you are fuckin this guy, is that it?

Actually for your information I'm in a perfectly happy relationship with a beautiful woman. Can I say the same for you gr81? I'm not sure. Maybe you brought this up because he's physically appealing to you I don't know.

This is a bodybuilding forum right? Generally the ppl here are bodybuilders right? Generally bodybuilders discuss eachother's physiques. If you're reading a bodybuilding magazine like Flex which has alot of bodybuilders pictures in it for viewers to look at. If you tell your body check out Dorian Yates's back it's damn huge & ripped does that mean that you want to bang Dorian Yates? For you gr81 maybe, but for most ppl you are just admiring a great physique as you yourself are trying to develop one as well.

Like I've said from the beginning, I just wanted some opinions on his physique as he came in 3rd in his contest when I think he should've one. The person who one was shorter, smaller but because he was smaller more ripped & won at 180lbs when he came in ripped at 215lbs or so.

 

[DimebagDarrell]

ok, first of all, YOU were the first person to freak out here. everybody else understood what p-funk meant except you. you have a real problem communicating. may i quote you:

They say 1gram of protein per 1lb of body weight to grow. From my experience, that is just enough to maintain your body size.

To grow you would do like this: if you weigh 155lbs you need 170grams of protein a day. If you weigh 250lbs you need 265grams of protein a day.

I believe to grow you need 3 or more grams of protein per 1lb of body weight.

that's from this thread. after someone pointed out to you that your statement didnt make sense, you got all sorts of pissed off. so knock it off, picking electronic fights with other people on the internet is just plain stupid. settle down and think about what youre saying first

 

[Johnnny]

DimebagDarrell what you quoted here isn't even in this thread, so why bring it up here?

I'm not picking fights with anyone, here
gr81 started up with me.

As for misunderstanding ppl on internet forums, it can happen very easily. Sometimes ppl write something & don't clearify their purpose for writing what they write.

It's no big deal. Like I said P-funk made it sound like he was criticising, if he wasn't no big deal it's cool.

But when ppl like gr81 make statements as he has, than I have every right to get PO'd.

 

[Spitfire]

This thread took a turn for the worst.
Does this guy remind anyone of JonhK?

 

[Johnnny]

Spitfire are you talking about me? But I do agree with about this thread taking a turn for the worst.

The whole point of this thread was just to get ppl's opinions on this guy's physique whether he's on drug's or not. That's it that's all I wanted out of this thread as this is a bodybuilding forum.

 

[Spitfire]

And yes I was talking about you, I dont think I meant any offense by it, buy you seem very simular.
As for him being on drugs or not, I dont know, nor do I think anyone could tell bu lookong at him. Sorry

 

[Johnnny]

Spitfire well I'm not this JohnK. Sorry to disappoint you.


But you didn't give his opinion about his physique? Well?

 

[Mudge]

3 grams of more of protein per pound? Thats crazy, 3 is the most I've heard of from a juiced bulk cycle.

 

[Johnnny]

Mudge what I mean is if you weigh 165lbs you should be taking in 180grams of protein a day, if you weigh 205lbs you should be getting 220 grams of protein a day, if you weigh 260lbs you should be getting 275grams of protein a day to grow.

Pretty simple. Not so out of the ordinary. I know a guy who's 195lbs at 5ft9 & eats 260grams of protein a day, personally I think he's over doing it.

 

[ZECH]

Originally posted by gr81
Jesus Christ Johnny just shut the fuck up. WHHHOOOOOOOOOO CARES?? why the hell do you want to know what we think about someone elses physique, especially if he isn't your trainier and has no real relationship to you? You have the dumbest most insignifigant posts and comments. So you know a guy that is ripped and has muscle and has done steroids, WTF!? The only possible reason you have dragged this thread on so long must be that you are fuckin this guy, is that it? By the way can I ask what this thread has to do with training?

Damn! I actually agree with everything gr81 just said!
There are people on this board who have NEVER taken steriods and are bigger than this guy. Size does not mean anything when it comes to knowledge, just as P-Funk said.

 

[Johnnny]

dg806 sorry to hear that. Well right now this guy is about 235lbs & still pretty lean, but not as ripped as in the picture at 215-220lbs.

But currently he's natural. He stopped a couple of years ago taking steroids.

 

[nikegurl]

And I agree with dg806 who agrees with every work gr81 said.

wave2: gr81 )

Johnny - maybe you should ask yourself why so MANY of your threads seem to take a turn for the worse.

On this one you said the guy was helping you and what do we think of his physique. The response everyone is giving you is that those things have nothing to do with eachother. He can look great and be of absolutely no use or assistance to anyone else.

That's not the sam as us saying he doesn't know anything.

What people are trying to tell you is that the connection you are trying to draw between his physique and his ability to train others is nonexistent.

Your logic is faulty and you get very defensive when people point that out to you. If that's the case... you shouldn't ask for opinions.

 

[Dale Mabry]

I get what Johnny is saying, he is just saying it wrong. The equation would be...

Protein=1g/lb bodyweight+3gx(multiple of 50 lbs)

So

Protein for a 200 lbs male the multiple of 50lbs is 4 so...

200g+3g(4)=212g

I have absolutely no idea where this number could be extracted from and would see very little difference between it and 200g, especially considering most are not ultra precise in what they intake anyway.

Oh, and one other thing. If you have EVER used gear you can never use the term natural, but that is my opinion only.

 

[nikegurl]

Originally posted by Dale Mabry
Oh, and one other thing. If you have EVER used gear you can never use the term natural, but that is my opinion only.

I completely agree.

 

[Johnnny]

Dale Mabry I guess my calculations were a little off.

nikegurl sorry you feel that way. I was just showing a pic of this guy who was giving me some "free" advice nor was he training me.

& I just wanted to know what ppl thought of his physique that's all. Pretty simple request if you ask me. I never implied that I was taking his advice because of how he looks. I just wanted to here what ppl thought of his physique.

The type's of replies I was expecting to hear was, yeah he's pretty ripped, or he looks like he has good mass & power along with his condition. Or ppl asking me questions on how much he lifts to go with his size.

If someone else would've posted the same thread as this one, I would've answered it with one of the replies as above with no confusion.

After all as I said this is a bodybuidling discussion forum & one thing that is discussed are individuals physiques. That's why they have so many pics in magazines for the viewers to look at & say this & that about someone's physique.

 

[Johnnny]

Dale Mabry I do agree & see where you're coming from, but what if the person stops using juice & never touches it again for the rest of his life? Is he not training natural all the years following his juice habits?

 

[Dale Mabry]

Doesn't matter. We are at an age now where you can keep a large majority of your gains after using juice. If you do a cycle, you are not natural.

 

[Mudge]

You can never again say you are natural if you have juiced, IMO. If nothing else then due to the small amounts of hyperplasia that comes with using test/GH (test can stimulate GH output).

 

[Saturday Fever]

If nothing else then due to the small amounts of hyperplasia that comes with using test/GH (test can stimulate GH output).

Got links to studies on this? I'd be real interested to read them.

 

[Mudge]

On which exactly, test stimulating GH or?