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Heres a game changer

I been trying to stay outta this one but i just can't anymore.:) First i will say this board has gotten out of whack. It's watered down with sponsors and watered down with some people that are just plain morons who like to start shit. No secret that this can be a dirty game but it has gotten out of control. There are some pretty dirty tactics used by sponsors nowadays to try and make other look bad instead of working hard to make themselves look good. Its one thing to hold a sale but a different thing to have new accounts made up slinging shit and bullshit about others. The main sources on here are just that the main sources and they have been that for a reason. They have weathered the storm and treated people right. Those are the MLG's, the OPs, AY, WP and i like to think AMA. They all serve a purpose and all offer something different to the board. Their success breeds envy and jealousy to some. Fucking suckers. Its competitive. Dont get me wrong but it can be done in a healthy way and one that doesnt hurt the board and the membership. Im not going to say its all rosey and we all get along 100% of the time. Ive had it out with a few of those guys and im sure some dont like me. But i will tell you with 100% honesty i respect the people i mentioned and i dont have any doubts they do their best to provide the best products and customer service that available to them. To insinuate that anyone is trying to fuck anyone over here and especially that it is being sanctioned or ok'd be the people who run this site or covered up by the mods is just plain fucking idiotic.... Ok im done with that part of my soap box

As far as this new test kit goes. Blahhh. Its a pretty crude test and no one really knows much about and no one has proven that they used it with the sources they are claiming they used it on and if so if it was done correctly. Some of us our lucky enough to have access to mass specs and there are trusted folks on here that also do this 3rd party. Thats the way to go. Any tool that will help the members is a good thing but I agree with Heavy it needs to be in a controlled environment. Once this gets figured on how to do this throw our name in the hat. Aint nothing to hide here. We know what the mass specs read :) So smell our balls to get to know us but you better smell em right or you might get bit. A suggestion would be whatever sponsors agree to this testing reimburse the tester. Have whoever is testing (someone hopefully set up by Heavy or someone of that kind of trust) order like a normal customer test the results and then say, hey we are going to or we did test your XXXX product and they be reimbursed. Just a thought. Anyways Hope you all had a good Christmas and hopefully in the New Year we can all do out part to get this board back on track.

See bold above: It's a shame, really, but very true.
 
Why does it matter if heavy or any other mod tests it. If you buy gear you can test it. If it's good it doesn't matter what your screen name is. And if it's shit post the results for everyone to see. 2-3 guys test the same source and it shoes up bad that source is done for anyway.

so it should be ok if i test out another sponsor, and it comes out fake? or maybe i can have a friend test another sponsor. ??? If a sponsor sells fake product, customers know, and that sponsor is run out of business. we are new to this board, but not new.
 
Why does it matter if heavy or any other mod tests it. If you buy gear you can test it. If it's good it doesn't matter what your screen name is. And if it's shit post the results for everyone to see. 2-3 guys test the same source and it shoes up bad that source is done for anyway.

Try and look at it from a sponsor's point of view. If anyone is allowed to do the testing, then what is there to stop an unethical competitor from lying about the results? Nothing...and if you think this kind of stuff doesn't happen, you'd be wrong. Before this board takes an official stance regarding the legitimacy of this testing method, it must be validated in a professional manner. Otherwise, what is there to differentiate these results from any of the other results already posted on the other boards? Nothing. So, if we want the results to hold additional credibility, it must be done in a credible fashion. Of course, there is nothing stopping anyone here from testing this stuff on their own and posting the info elsewhere.
 
HI posted the guidelines for testing...with the ability to make changes as it goes...few things to recap..

It must be video tapped
Product must be purchased with proof of purchase
Sponsor(if they are one here)needs to be notified prior to posting

If you are unsure if you(test poster)have met the required criteria to post results..pm your results and related testing info(include video)to HI or myself...if I'm busy counting all my hush money I will forward it to HI..:)

Im.all for this as long as it follows guidelines...so sponsors sending gear to be tested- no go...poster with no video-no go...video testing one compound and a subsequent post with results of unseen tested product-no go...

So stay within the guidelines and its all good...if anyone has a link to actual test numbers and results I would sure be interested in seeing the color differences etc...there isn't squat on the net I can find that shows any real tests...
 
Lol this is a public board. These are DRUG DEALERS. You guys make it sound like this is comparing laundry detergents lol!! If a sponsor tests another sources gear no one would even open the thread because they know it's bullshit. There's groupies for every sponsor so even if for example an OP guy tests AMA he's likely full of shit to. What I'm saying is everyone who is concerned with the quality of there gear should test it themselves. Then you know for sure. Post all results good or bad. It doesn't matter. I know the gear I use will come out on top every time so I'm not concerned. I would be concerned with any new lab or ones with questionable pasts. In the end the cream rises to the top no matter what.
 
Lol this is a public board. These are DRUG DEALERS. You guys make it sound like this is comparing laundry detergents lol!! If a sponsor tests another sources gear no one would even open the thread because they know it's bullshit. There's groupies for every sponsor so even if for example an OP guy tests AMA he's likely full of shit to. What I'm saying is everyone who is concerned with the quality of there gear should test it themselves. Then you know for sure. Post all results good or bad. It doesn't matter. I know the gear I use will come out on top every time so I'm not concerned. I would be concerned with any new lab or ones with questionable pasts. In the end the cream rises to the top no matter what.

Its not a public board ....just sayin.....and you don't go to the Amway detergent testings at the Lions club??
 
LOL @ Not public.

Where does Prince find these guys?
 
I think what s2h means by it not being public ..is you can be shown the door at any time. Its not your "civil right" to be here.

and yes, WP's var is 100% gtg...
I'm also in love with his t3 ..which seems like such a small thing but really isn't and its something I'm incredibly sensitive to.
 
to add to that, I don't need a test to tell me if var is any good or not...
dbol throws water weight on me instantly, tbol keeps me a little leaner but still some water, var dries me out some...winny makes me creak like the tin man
var takes the longest to kick in with me
 
Good point Sheri...but actually I was aiming at a different avenue...but I forgot this wasn't AG..
 
Good point Sheri...but actually I was aiming at a different avenue...but I forgot this wasn't AG..


I think everyone catches themselves forgetting they're outside of AG once ina while ..lol
 
I haven't performed any tests. I've clearly stated that. Reading comprehension is clearly not a MOD prerequisite.
 
I think what s2h means by it not being public ..is you can be shown the door at any time. Its not your "civil right" to be here.

and yes, WP's var is 100% gtg...
I'm also in love with his t3 ..which seems like such a small thing but really isn't and its something I'm incredibly sensitive to.


lol-Yeah, that's almost the definition of private.
 
is there any particular reason you're arguing what admin can and can not do with the site THEY run and YOU don't pay for?
 
I think what s2h means by it not being public ..is you can be shown the door at any time. Its not your "civil right" to be here.

and yes, WP's var is 100% gtg...
I'm also in love with his t3 ..which seems like such a small thing but really isn't and its something I'm incredibly sensitive to.



please see if anybody here have that lab kit and send him few anavar tabs so he can see and test it..;)
 
is there any particular reason you're arguing what admin can and can not do with the site THEY run and YOU don't pay for?

Hmmm, I don't remember arguing with Heavy or Prince. That dudes a MOD. I have seen like 20 of him come and go in the last 2 years alone. Who knows how many before that. Tell me again how this is your business?
 
how is it your business?

and you're still arguing it after heavy said it could be done under a set criteria which needed to be fully established
I'm not really sure what your point is.


what I know about the test so far is every board that results have been posted on its turned into a shit show...and given that you seem to be pushing for it to be turned into a shit show that really makes me wonder what your agenda is. You love the test, buy it and test your gear, enjoy. No ones stopping you.

Do you really think that the Mods don't answer to admin ???
 
what I also know is several of the screen names in THIS thread have popped up on several other boards pushing this test...sounds like a test sales pitch to me.
 
how is it your business?

and you're still arguing it after heavy said it could be done under a set criteria which needed to be fully established
I'm not really sure what your point is.


what I know about the test so far is every board that results have been posted on its turned into a shit show...and given that you seem to be pushing for it to be turned into a shit show that really makes me wonder what your agenda is. You love the test, buy it and test your gear, enjoy. No ones stopping you.

Do you really think that the Mods don't answer to admin ???
lol You must be really new, this is cute.
 
yeah...like about 10 years on steroid boards, try again.
 
what I also know is several of the screen names in THIS thread have popped up on several other boards pushing this test...sounds like a test sales pitch to me.

Anyone who knows me (there are a few left) no this is NOT my angle. I'm like the beastie boys (also Jews), fightin' for rights.
 
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