HGH question.

[Harmsway456]

I am new to the whole HGH fad and after some research all around, it is still hard to understand some things.
According to the web sites I looked up, they are saying that the pill form which is all natural by the way is not only better for your system and much cheaper to buy, but it's completely legal too. Add the fact that you don't need to inject it and I just don't understand why anyone would go with HGH in an injectable form?
Is there something I am missing?
Does the injectable form work differently?
Does it work better than the oral form to build muscle faster?

I hope that someone who is knowledgable about HGH can clear this up for me.

I was thinking about getting the HGH from GenF20plus. What is your thoughts on that as well?

 

[JMRQ]

The injectables work a lot better - they help you put on SIZE

Pills are best for anti-aging NOT getting bigger

 

[Built]

The injectables work a lot better - they help you put on SIZE

Pills are best for anti-aging NOT getting bigger

HGH must be injected. There is no other way to administer it. If you swallow it, it will degrade in stomach acid and be rendered useless.

There is no such thing as HGH in pill form. The supplements that purport to increase GH are not GH, but substances which are purported to stimulate your own body to increase endogenous GH, which they may in fact do, but not to any physiologically significant degree.

They are of no benefit for physique or "anti-aging" goals. The only thing the "legal orals" will do is legally rape your wallet.

Sorry.

 

[JMRQ]

Yeah but the injections are pretty easy with legal insulin pins that are really so small you don't even feel them...

ANYONE OUT THERE WHO'S AFRAID OF THE INJECTIONS, DON'T BE !!!

 

[Harmsway456]

HGH must be injected. There is no other way to administer it. If you swallow it, it will degrade in stomach acid and be rendered useless.

There is no such thing as HGH in pill form. The supplements that purport to increase GH are not GH, but substances which are purported to stimulate your own body to increase endogenous GH, which they may in fact do, but not to any physiologically significant degree.

They are of no benefit for physique or "anti-aging" goals. The only thing the "legal orals" will do is legally rape your wallet.

Sorry.

No need to be sorry, that is exactly why I posted this question here, because I knew someone knowledgeable on here would give it to me straight.

Thank you for your honesty and knowledge.
It is hard to find info on HGH that isn't byist(sp?) in some way.
So in your honest opinion, are the gains with HGH worth the price tag?

 

[Built]

Oh, hey there. The "sorry" was in response to JMRQ's post, not yours. That's why I included it with my response.

It is easy to find info on HGH that isn't biased. PubMed home

What, specifically, are you hoping to achieve from HGH? If you're looking to build muscle, HGH isn't your drug, at least not as a stand-alone. What other anabolics are you using or investigating at the moment?

 

[Harmsway456]

Going to start a good sized cycle of test-e,sus,anadrol,deca,& d-Bol.
I was interested in the HGH more for helping in building and repairing muscle faster than AA's alone.
Not during this cycle though. I need alot more info on it first and then maybe run a sus/d-Bol cycle with the HGH to see how it works for me.

But the other benefits of the HGH like better memory,hair,skin,etc. are all tempting also.

 

[Harmsway456]

Thanks for the web site, but I have a highschool education, not a PHD and I've worked in a tractor factory, not a lab for the last 16 years, so when I went to that site I think my brain actually started to smolder a bit. LOL.

So if you can find a web site like that one that has "for idiots" behind it, I would be grateful. LOL

 

[Built]

The gear you're planning to run will on its own increase your GH output. You are quite correct in saying that it will enhance your cycle. It is expensive. Most guys I know who run GH run it at between 2 and 4 units per day (some go considerably higher than this) and a "kit" of 100 units can go for $300 - $500 depending upon your source. At a modest 2 units a day, three kits will last you five months, and GH is something you'll run for many months, if not year-round. I have not run GH myself, although I'd like to. It's expensive, often faked and I don't yet know how to go about having it tested.

There are some posts and stickies that describe dosing paradigms - perhaps take a look and see what's around, but rest assured that the only way to supplement GH is to inject GH. Of this, you can be certain, so in continuing to search for answers, the only places to look are in posts that describe protocols for injecting growth hormone. Anything that speaks of sprays, topicals or pills you can just ignore.

 

[Harmsway456]

Cool, thanks for the heads up.

 

[JMRQ]

But the other benefits of the HGH like better memory,hair,skin,etc. are all tempting also.

I will never forget how my skin looked when I did my cycle of HGH - I had people looking at me like I stepped out of Hollywood...

And it definitely improved a lot of other things...

 

[SUPERFLY1234]

I would stay away from gh, Some side effect is cancer growth. If you have dormant cancer cell, gh will wake them up and make them cancerous. but you need to weigh the pros and cons before you start. to me their are way more cons. cancer is a big one.

 

[JMRQ]

I would stay away from gh, Some side effect is cancer growth. If you have dormant cancer cell, gh will wake them up and make them cancerous. but you need to weigh the pros and cons before you start. to me their are way more cons. cancer is a big one.

I've heard that's not true

HGH = HEALTH++

 

[Built]

I would stay away from gh, Some side effect is cancer growth. If you have dormant cancer cell, gh will wake them up and make them cancerous. but you need to weigh the pros and cons before you start. to me their are way more cons. cancer is a big one.

This is a theoretical possibility, but has never been observed.

I've heard that's not true

HGH = HEALTH++

Not so fast - it IS technically possible.

 

[Harmsway456]

Well, if I was all that worried about cancer and all the cons of everything, I wouldn't smoke and drink, eat half the crap I do, and I sure wouldn't be cramming gear in my ass or down my throat on a daily basis.
Not that what you say may be true or not.
But thanks for the heads up on that.

 

[Built]

So you want to run gear to fix your shitty diet?

 

[Harmsway456]

So you want to run gear to fix your shitty diet?

Huh? How did you get that I have a shitty diet from that?
My diet is not that bad, I just eat more fast food than I should.
When I'm on cycle, my diet is tip top though.
But the gear it's self don't controll my diet.
I'm not going to be in any competition and never will be. I'm not over weight by any means, more on the under weight side if anything. Damn metabolism! So I figure I'm not going to be 100% about a pure healthy diet.

 

[Bilal123]

HGH must be injected. There is no other way to administer it. If you swallow it, it will degrade in stomach acid and be rendered useless.

There is no such thing as HGH in pill form. The supplements that purport to increase GH are not GH, but substances which are purported to stimulate your own body to increase endogenous GH, which they may in fact do, but not to any physiologically significant degree.

They are of no benefit for physique or "anti-aging" goals. The only thing the "legal orals" will do is legally rape your wallet.

Sorry.

Well, at least I know this now... Never again!

I guess I'll make mistakes like any other novice.

 

[Harmsway456]

Well, at least I know this now... Never again!

I guess I'll make mistakes like any other novice.

Why do you say that?
Did you go with the orals?

 

[Bilal123]

Why do you say that?
Did you go with the orals?

That's the thing, after looking into it a bit more it's like what Built mentioned earlier. HGH can only be injected (anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. I'm not above reproach). All the pill versions that you hear about don't actually have the real benefits of the injectable.

I have some orals at the house and they do/have done nothing, lol. You live and you learn I guess. I also came across some spray that I got for free too (I don't count that as a loss since it was free). One thing I can say about the spray though is that it would help me to sleep like a baby. Also, no matter how long I slept, I would wake up feeling well-rested.

I plan on actually getting the real thing plus, some other stuff soon, but that will have to wait until after about mid-September. Ramadan is coming up for me and I doubt taking gear while not eating or drinking all day is good for your health, lol.

Take care man.

 

[XYZ]

Oh, hey there. The "sorry" was in response to JMRQ's post, not yours. That's why I included it with my response.

It is easy to find info on HGH that isn't biased. PubMed home

What, specifically, are you hoping to achieve from HGH? If you're looking to build muscle, HGH isn't your drug, at least not as a stand-alone. What other anabolics are you using or investigating at the moment?

GH can and dose build muscle. AAS just increases the size of the muscle fiber. GH creates new fibers. That's why the two go together so well.

GH will also be able to grow muscle on it's own, it just takes a longer time to see noticable gains.

 

[Harmsway456]

You guys have been great. Thank you all for the info.
I am sure when I do order some GH, I'll be asking some more questions about the average doses and what not.

Thanks again.

 

[Built]

Oh, hey there. The "sorry" was in response to JMRQ's post, not yours. That's why I included it with my response.

It is easy to find info on HGH that isn't biased. PubMed home

What, specifically, are you hoping to achieve from HGH? If you're looking to build muscle, HGH isn't your drug, at least not as a stand-alone. What other anabolics are you using or investigating at the moment?

GH can and dose build muscle. AAS just increases the size of the muscle fiber. GH creates new fibers. That's why the two go together so well.

GH will also be able to grow muscle on it's own, it just takes a longer time to see noticable gains.

ChocolateThunder - to clarify: I didn't mean to suggest he won't build ANY muscle - he will, but not like he will on AAS (and sufficient food, of course). Also, the differentiation of satellite cells is well known with HGH, but AAS do this, even without the addition of HGH. Effects of anabolic steroids on the muscle cells o... [Med Sci Sports Exerc. 1999] - PubMed result

 

[JMRQ]

I've used injectable HGH in the past, but now using ARGININE PYROGLUTAMATE before bed each night I think I look bigger every single morning... =)

 

[Built]

I've used injectable HGH in the past, but now using ARGININE PYROGLUTAMATE before bed each night I think I look bigger every single morning... =)

So it affects your vision, then? Or your visual cortex?

 

[Harmsway456]

So it affects your vision, then? Or your visual cortex?