HGH vs GHRP/GHRH peptides to help maintain gains through PCT

[DaBeast25]

Over the past year or so I started using a GHRH/GHRP combo at 100mcg 3x/day. I'm running this right now during my cycle and last year I felt like it definitely helped me retain gains through PCT I'm assuming this was mainly through and increase in local IGFs.

Anyone have thoughts or experiences on using HGH the same way? I'd obviously run it for longer than just a 4-6 week PCT. I've never used HGH, but am considering using it solo or in combination with the GHRP/GHRHs for a while after my cycle. Found a decent price for it and am just toying around with the idea. I've been riddled with overuse injuries which all feel great right now, but the extra healing effects of HGH would be welcomed along with some body comp effects. I wouldn't be looking to run any high doses, probably not much more than 4iu/day at a max.

I'm also just 30 at the moment, I don't know if I should just wait until I'm older with this

thoughts???

 

[VictorZ06]

When it comes to injuries, and I have had several....I found REAL HGH to be the key to all my problems. I would most certainly advise you to run it, and do not bother with those peps....they don't even compare. Only problem is finding legit GH these days....so many people got busted, so many fakes going around, the most legit stuff I have found are the REAL GreyTops that I have been using for quite some time. Some other guys here are using them and I saw their blood work, shit is good and strong. The hell with paying $600-700 for a kit of Serostim when I can get GreyTops for about half the price and still come up with almost the identical blood work.




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[Standard Donkey]

real HGH can be hard to come by. I would recommend 4-5 mg of CJC with Dac per week split into 2 shots alongside ghrp6 3-4x a day at 100mcg per shot, and huperzine (not sure what this should be dosed at, but it's easy to find a good dosing schedule).

 

[VictorZ06]

Blah....finding real GH is hard, getting it at a respectable price is even harder. Just do some research and ask around...some guys recently got busted as well as some labs. Just be weary and don't spend big money on BS. Be careful with who you trust and you will find the real thing...KEEP CLEAR OF GENERICS WITH NO LABELS OR ANYTHING ON THEM! Click the link in my sig and it will take you to a page that shows what some of the best GH around is these days....it's all I use. We can't discuss sources here, but if you look hard enough....you will find what you seek.




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[rambo99]

My base is always the peps, then I add gh if I have funds to play with.

 

[DaBeast25]

How important is it to take HGH on an empty stomach? If I was to do it, I'd probably do one dose first thing in the morning(not sure how long I'd have to wait before I eat) and then a second dose PWO. I drink a carb/BCAA drink during my workouts and eat right after.

 

[Standard Donkey]

How important is it to take HGH on an empty stomach? If I was to do it, I'd probably do one dose first thing in the morning(not sure how long I'd have to wait before I eat) and then a second dose PWO. I drink a carb/BCAA drink during my workouts and eat right after.

if your goals are purely fatloss, then take it on an empty stomach and do fasted cardio. if not, any time is fine. I take mine pre-workout, as do many guys

 

[DaBeast25]

if your goals are purely fatloss, then take it on an empty stomach and do fasted cardio. if not, any time is fine. I take mine pre-workout, as do many guys

Do you think it would make much difference pre-workout vs post-workout?

 

[BIGBEN2011]

peps work pretty damn well. and I found a good place not a sponsor here but they have good stuff and dirt cheap like mt2 a vial like 5 bucks igf lr3 for like 20 bucks a vial and it is good .i use real hgh I am using rips now about to switch to grey tops which is same thing . i can run a low dose like 2 -3 iu a day and then run some peps and get great results.

 

[DaBeast25]

peps work pretty damn well. and I found a good place not a sponsor here but they have good stuff and dirt cheap like mt2 a vial like 5 bucks igf lr3 for like 20 bucks a vial and it is good .i use real hgh I am using rips now about to switch to grey tops which is same thing . i can run a low dose like 2 -3 iu a day and then run some peps and get great results.

Yeah, I like the idea of using a combo of peps with a small amount of HGH.

 

[Standard Donkey]

Do you think it would make much difference pre-workout vs post-workout?

it takes a few hours to peak.. so take it pre-workout, so it begins to peak once you are home while eating your post-workout meal and are resting.

 

[Standard Donkey]

peps work pretty damn well. and I found a good place not a sponsor here but they have good stuff and dirt cheap like mt2 a vial like 5 bucks igf lr3 for like 20 bucks a vial and it is good .i use real hgh I am using rips now about to switch to grey tops which is same thing . i can run a low dose like 2 -3 iu a day and then run some peps and get great results.

lol.. lr3 for 20 bucks.. ...another good peptide stack is cjc no dac + ghrp6 100/100 3-5x a day

 

[VictorZ06]

Some of you fellas are lucky, I used peps once before and didn't get that much out of them...mostly CJC-1297 (no dac) and GHRP-6. All I really noticed was an increase in hunger. I stopped the CJC and stayed on the GHRP-6 for a little longer...I MAY have gained a little more vascularity.

I used GHRP-6 later again when doing a large bulk cycle with EQ...when the EQ hunger pains went away, I started using GHRP-6 again and the hunger pains came back allowing me to push down to extra cals I was trying to eat. I'd stuff myself silly and still be hungry...I remember roasting a whole lamb with 2 of my friends, 3 of us had it ALL and wanted more! Damn that sounds sooooo good right now. lol




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[DaBeast25]

So, I'm under the impression that you should slowly ramp up your GH dose. Starting around 2iu/day. I dont know if this is necessarily true or not, but would this type of protocol be decent for a starter...

1.5-2iu upon waking
1.5-2iu right before or after training
I'd do this the 5 days that I lift Tues/Wed/Thur/Sat/Sun taking the other 2 days off. Or maybe just doing the AM dose on the off days?

 

[BIGBEN2011]

yes I think you should slowly ramp up you gh dose I get bad sides if I don't .which I stay low dosed any way because it all I can afford and all I really need but all so for me I get head aches swollen bloated etc when I go a more than about 3 iu a day on rips. idk about any other brand rips is all I have ever used so far. I would like to try one day high dosed hgh just to see. I all so would like to try real usa pharm grade hgh and pharm igf just to see. if I ever get rich I would buy pharm grade gear,ai,peps and hgh just to see if I would look that much better idk.

 

[BIGBEN2011]

hey victor I think you would like igf-lr3 it helps my back and shoulder more than anything more than hgh which does help and I run it along with the igf but when I stopped the igf because you can not run it non stop I can tell I miss the igf it works better than deca/npp .it is not a miracle like for getting huge and all but for me it keeps me super lean and ripped and cut and vascular but the main thing is makes it where can lift pain free and for me that's worth a lot. the having six pak as a side effect is cool to haha . wonder why how igf-lr3 helps joints/pain etc ?

 

[DaBeast25]

Wait, so are you guys storing all your GH in the fridge or just after it's been reconstituted???

 

[BIGBEN2011]

I keep my pep in the freezer until I mix it then in the freg.I keep my hgh in the freg not mixed and when mixed it has done me well this way for many years now.

 

[VictorZ06]

Wait, so are you guys storing all your GH in the fridge or just after it's been reconstituted???

ALL HGH HAS TO BE KEPT IN THE FRIDGE! With the exception of just ONE brand. Serono Serostim. You only have to put one bottle at a time in the fridge....as soon as you mix the bottle with BAC water, it has to go in the fridge. The rest can be stored in a cool dark area. Serono has a patent on this formula....thus making it even more expensive. That's the only downside to taking GreyTops as opposed to the Serostim I used to take. My GreyTop kits have to be kept in the fridge AT ALL TIMES....reconstituted or not. If you travel a lot like I used to, it was worth it for me to spend the extra couple hundred bucks on Serostim, because I didn't need to keep it in the fridge when I traveled. But now that I no longer travel as much, REAL GreyTops is the way to go. And be weary guys, I keep getting emails asking me if the GreyTops they got are real or not. They should come in the proper box, the bottles should have labels with batch numbers, the box itself should have an authentication sticker on it, etc. If you get a plain white box that just happens to have bottles with powder in them and a "grey flip off top"....that does not make them REAL GreyTops!! I feel bad for those of you who got scammed, but you guys have to do your homework when spending that kind of money.



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[VictorZ06]

hey victor I think you would like igf-lr3 it helps my back and shoulder more than anything more than hgh which does help and I run it along with the igf but when I stopped the igf because you can not run it non stop I can tell I miss the igf it works better than deca/npp .it is not a miracle like for getting huge and all but for me it keeps me super lean and ripped and cut and vascular but the main thing is makes it where can lift pain free and for me that's worth a lot. the having six pak as a side effect is cool to haha . wonder why how igf-lr3 helps joints/pain etc ?

I used to use IGF with my GH and slin protocols....I'm not sure if the lr3 will have a different impact. But I will get some and see what happens!


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[drksanctuary]

ALL HGH HAS TO BE KEPT IN THE FRIDGE! With the exception of just ONE brand. Serono Serostim. You only have to put one bottle at a time in the fridge....as soon as you mix the bottle with BAC water, it has to go in the fridge. The rest can be stored in a cool dark area. Serono has a patent on this formula....thus making it even more expensive. That's the only downside to taking GreyTops as opposed to the Serostim I used to take. My GreyTop kits have to be kept in the fridge AT ALL TIMES....reconstituted or not. If you travel a lot like I used to, it was worth it for me to spend the extra couple hundred bucks on Serostim, because I didn't need to keep it in the fridge when I traveled. But now that I no longer travel as much, REAL GreyTops is the way to go. And be weary guys, I keep getting emails asking me if the GreyTops they got are real or not. They should come in the proper box, the bottles should have labels with batch numbers, the box itself should have an authentication sticker on it, etc. If you get a plain white box that just happens to have bottles with powder in them and a "grey flip off top"....that does not make them REAL GreyTops!! I feel bad for those of you who got scammed, but you guys have to do your homework when spending that kind of money.



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You can order greytops without labels and boxes to save some cash from the source. In my experience, they are half dosed compared to suggested pharma IGF levels, but it's still a good deal.

 

[VictorZ06]

You can order greytops without labels and boxes to save some cash from the source. In my experience, they are half dosed compared to suggested pharma IGF levels, but it's still a good deal.

I will NEVER take that chance as I know MANY who have done that and they ALL got fake shit. A close friend of mine tried doing that, and he cried like a bitch when he got his blood work back. If it doesn't have the right box, correct labels of the bottles, and the authentication sticker, I call FAKE. I refuse to roll the dice. I have been getting my GH from the same guy for over 8 years and I never never never had a problem with his stuff. I'm not about to try getting a plain white box and risk getting fake shit so I can save a lousy $50....hell no. I know my guy get's the real deal, hell.....my primary MD even uses the stuff. Shit is GTG and I will not chance getting plain old generics that just happen to have a grey flip top on them so they can be called "GreyTops". Far far too many fakes going around....not worth the risk. And the GreyTops I get are just as strong as the Serostim kits I used to get. It would be beyond silly for me to try something else.



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