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You can also look up the Molecular weight pretty easily using wiki or MSDS sheets.
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I guess something like that wouldn't be on a COA would it ? I think that just gives you the identification number and visual inspection and stuff like that right ?
Brundel
So 6 mls of solvent
and 25 grams of powder
how much oil to get 100ml @ 250mg
400.59 is the molecular weight for Test. Enanthate (just to use for teaching purposes i chose T.E.) How do i tell the amount of oil that will be displaced if i want to make 100 cc's at 250 mg/ cc. ? So i'm adding 25 grams of powder i'm gonna use 5mls BB (5%) and 1ml BA (1%).
So 6 mls of solvent
and 25 grams of powder
how much oil to get 100ml @ 250mg
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Yea bro, i have seen them and there straight. I was just wondering how to do it the hard way...don't ask me why, i think i'm just ocd or something about this kind of stuff
Thanks !
Don't know why i didn't think about using a vet (like 3 of you suggested a vet) for my b12...thanks alot guys, i'm good with that now thanks to the members of this forum.
Wow i'm actually starting to trust people a little bit. When i ask myself something i always come back with "i better ask brundel, or whoever about it" lol...it's good to have connections with people that know more than you. That's the only way to get better.
Newbie on this forum, first post.
1. Seems to be some confusion around what that powder calculator does...more specifically that "powder weight" field entry means. When it says "normally between .75 to .85" that is incorrect. How about all values for ALL injectable hormones (that we're interested in at least) will fall between ".84 and .971"
2. Molecular weight of the hormone has nothing to do with anything related to the powder calculator. Maybe it would come into play when you're looking for the appropriate solvent/suspension/surfactant to suspend it in.
3. For test E @250mg/ml if you used .75 as your number in the powder calc and your powder was 98% pure you'd be at 231.3mg/ml, or 7.47% underdosed.
4. Don't bother with PES or nylon filter membranes. They'll work fine for small doses, but why risk it. PES is not compatible with EO, BA @ 2% or BB, nylon is not compatible with at least a few of those. No data exists if PVDF (teflon) for EO or guaiacol material compatibility, though I suspect it is as teflon is generally a very compatible material.
5. When your Millipore filtration unit starts to get hairline cracks and leak when you're filtering an EO based AAS its because the housing is not a compatible material with EO. The filter might be, but the housing probably isnt.
6. GSO is superior to other oils because of its omega 3/omega 6 ratios. Oils higher in some fat contents will change the absorption of steroids. Don't like the green tint? Try safflower oil, nearly identical in fat contents minus some of the other antioxidants that GSO has... close enough, no one's even proven that the amount you take in via injection has any benefit to overall health.
7. Any articles posted on cottonseed oil being a largely contaminated oil did not mention its roll its injectable pharmaceuticals specifically. FDA did not test any cottonseed oil in 2007... so what? Was this on the food side or the drug side - most likely it was on the food side. Who cares? No one eats cottonseed oil anyway. Years of injectable pharmaceuticals made with cottonseed should be evidence enough that its tolerable and very unlikely to cause any issues, especially when compared with other factors such as injection technique. Years of Monkeys home brewing with cottonseed should help you arrive at a similar conclusion.
8. EO and butyl material compatibility: EO as a certain percentage of the carrier oil should be fine with respect to material compatibility. Butyl is "highly" compatible rubber when it comes to liquids. The plunger in your syringe might act differently than the butyl stopper...
1. Seems to be some confusion around what that powder calculator does...more specifically that "powder weight" field entry means. When it says "normally between .75 to .85" that is incorrect. How about all values for ALL injectable hormones (that we're interested in at least) will fall between ".84 and .971"
2. Molecular weight of the hormone has nothing to do with anything related to the powder calculator. Maybe it would come into play when you're looking for the appropriate solvent/suspension/surfactant to suspend it in.
3. For test E @250mg/ml if you used .75 as your number in the powder calc and your powder was 98% pure you'd be at 231.3mg/ml, or 7.47% underdosed.
4. Don't bother with PES or nylon filter membranes. They'll work fine for small doses, but why risk it. PES is not compatible with EO, BA @ 2% or BB, nylon is not compatible with at least a few of those. No data exists if PVDF (teflon) for EO or guaiacol material compatibility, though I suspect it is as teflon is generally a very compatible material.
5. When your Millipore filtration unit starts to get hairline cracks and leak when you're filtering an EO based AAS its because the housing is not a compatible material with EO. The filter might be, but the housing probably isnt.
6. GSO is superior to other oils because of its omega 3/omega 6 ratios. Oils higher in some fat contents will change the absorption of steroids. Don't like the green tint? Try safflower oil, nearly identical in fat contents minus some of the other antioxidants that GSO has... close enough, no one's even proven that the amount you take in via injection has any benefit to overall health.
7. Any articles posted on cottonseed oil being a largely contaminated oil did not mention its roll its injectable pharmaceuticals specifically. FDA did not test any cottonseed oil in 2007... so what? Was this on the food side or the drug side - most likely it was on the food side. Who cares? No one eats cottonseed oil anyway. Years of injectable pharmaceuticals made with cottonseed should be evidence enough that its tolerable and very unlikely to cause any issues, especially when compared with other factors such as injection technique. Years of Monkeys home brewing with cottonseed should help you arrive at a similar conclusion.
8. EO and butyl material compatibility: EO as a certain percentage of the carrier oil should be fine with respect to material compatibility. Butyl is "highly" compatible rubber when it comes to liquids. The plunger in your syringe might act differently than the butyl stopper...
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Pay to get your DEA license. A fee of $184 is required for each year you have a DEA license. You can pay this cost on an annual basis or pay for three years in advance. If you choose the latter, the cost is $551 every three years.
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Well, that's a nogo for trying to do it legit anyways. For b12... that's just stupid.
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Well, that's a nogo for trying to do it legit anyways. For b12... that's just stupid.
Update: That company just called me and said they were out of stock and said I needed to fax them a DEA number. Told them to cancel the order. For chrissakes, this is old. The link someone posted to my personal page here is good, but kinda damned expensive compared to animal grade. Sadness.
.45um filters do not ensure sterility. You need .22um or better, period.
I put my oil through a .05um filter before I even add it into the mix.
Just got 2 in the mail last night. Quick noob question though: I know it's better to filter through a .45 first, but if I just did the stericup .22, how much could I run through until clogging. Cut? Any idea? And on a side note, what kind of pressure do you recommend with the stericups when filtering.
keith1569
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good to know bro. i may give it a try and see less ba and bb. do you notice your oils being thicker with less bb?
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i generally just get the 150ml ones, so i filter 80 to 100ml through em. dont put to much pressure on them though, they will crack...made that mistake more than once ha!
if you are using food grade oil and prefilter it with a .45, your oils will filter faster i have noticed..often i am to lazy to do that though ha
Keith
Noted. What do you think I should hold the pressure at? I am using the the oil from CEM this time around and will heat it up a bit to help it along.
CEM has great products, don't get me wrong, but when you get the package in the mail and find tiny little bottles for 30 - 85 bucks I tend to get a little pissed at myself. Sure, some goes a long way depending, but others are complete gouging. They shipped ultra quick though. Nice. I had 4 packages waiting for me from 4 diff companies that I had ordered from on thursday. Not too shabby.
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this thread is the shit *subscribed*
brundel
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SOrry about the D E A thing. you used to be able to just order the b12. There was a time when you could order some pretty sick shit from animal vet supply warehouses but apparently they caught on. Your gonna have to find another way. The board sponsors here might carry it.
With the stericup filters:
I think 9psi was the highest but really if your just running oil through 5 is fine and itll go right through. The filters say 15psi or something....DO NOT USE THIS! Your receiver will crack. I can almost guarantee it.
If your running gear through them make sure the gear is warm and I would say you can go up to 9psi. Prop goes through in min. Heavier blends --like someone Im talking to who is making 300mg EQ......takes longer. keep in mind though that if it would take longer with the stericup it would also take longer with a syringe filter. an hour watching tv while you pump every few min.....or constant pushing from you for an hour while you sweat like a pig and your forearms are cramping? Up to you which you choose.
I have only used the millipore filters so I have no idea the PSI on other units.
With the stericup filters:
I think 9psi was the highest but really if your just running oil through 5 is fine and itll go right through. The filters say 15psi or something....DO NOT USE THIS! Your receiver will crack. I can almost guarantee it.
If your running gear through them make sure the gear is warm and I would say you can go up to 9psi. Prop goes through in min. Heavier blends --like someone Im talking to who is making 300mg EQ......takes longer. keep in mind though that if it would take longer with the stericup it would also take longer with a syringe filter. an hour watching tv while you pump every few min.....or constant pushing from you for an hour while you sweat like a pig and your forearms are cramping? Up to you which you choose.
I have only used the millipore filters so I have no idea the PSI on other units.
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Oh and if you run it through a .22 stericup there is no need to .45 prefilter.
Thanks a bunch guys. I think I pretty much have all the pieces of the puzzle and will put the picture together very soon. Far as the B12, I found the vet one where it's about 60 w/shipping to the states for a 250ml bottle - not too shabby, considering the difficulty. CEM and AR-R have it as well, but without a sale it can bet on the salty side (knowing how cheap the stuff can be).
If you have been to both sites, have you ever noticed that carry the exact same stuff at I think the same prices and they will alternate the sales. Different look and whatnot, but same products with their labels attached.
If you have been to both sites, have you ever noticed that carry the exact same stuff at I think the same prices and they will alternate the sales. Different look and whatnot, but same products with their labels attached.
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Wouldnt surprise me if it were the same guys.
It's from my old board days of putting it on my banner, old habits die hard
Damn bro I thought u really got banned lol
I was reading an article about the syringe filters it said the minimum size to ensure a sterile product was .45 and just about all the conversions list a .45 for their items needed, now I know guys on here say .22 is the minimum but I used .45 and have not had any problems, I've now got .22 syringe and stericup filters, but wondering what the real deal is on the .45 filter....is it sterile, but .22 is better, or is it not sterile at all with a .45? Thoughts please!!!!
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you know i think some stuff like staff can still go through a .45 and such. Labs i believe filter with a .22, so that is the gold standard for being sterile. I in the past had only filtered wtih .22, but the brew i made was with .45. I was shocked at how much easier it was to push through 100ml vs with the .22 ha..i am out of stericup's..so i did 100ml of test e with a .22 and then 100ml a few days later in .45 ..took i would say 1/2 the time and my fingers didnt want to die at the end!
Keith
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There is a lot of nasty stuff that can pass through a .45.
Thats enough for me to go with a .22.
Many people will tell you .45 is enough, however, Keep in mind that on the internet sometimes people will read something somewhere and then repeat it as fact so you cant believe everything you read. There was a conversion sheet going around for years that had decent recipes except for they all included 5% BA and .45 filters. Alot of people still use this as reference.
If your worried about the trouble with using a .22......here is what happens when staph gets into you. Perhaps its worth the trouble of filtering properly.
Thats enough for me to go with a .22.
Many people will tell you .45 is enough, however, Keep in mind that on the internet sometimes people will read something somewhere and then repeat it as fact so you cant believe everything you read. There was a conversion sheet going around for years that had decent recipes except for they all included 5% BA and .45 filters. Alot of people still use this as reference.
If your worried about the trouble with using a .22......here is what happens when staph gets into you. Perhaps its worth the trouble of filtering properly.
