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[Aaron S.]

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4.825 is not 10% of 100ml
Which it would be to make it 10% weaker right?
Or is my math off.

250mg /10 =25mg

I think i must be making this easier than i should. I didn't know this was as complicated as it seems to be. When I'm measuring my dosage, if i'm making 100mls of prop for example and i'm going with 100mg/cc i throw some oil in a graduated beaker...say 80mls. i then throw 10 grams of powder in. Then i melt it down and slowly add oil till i hit 100mls....i guess some one needs to take me to school. I never do as little as 10mls anymore but when i did i think i adjusted for the amount of room the powder took up by considering one gram of powder to be .8mls. So if i used .1ml of BA and 1ml of BB i would adjust the powder weight by considering the powder, antimicrobial and solvent to equal 2mls and then add 8mls of oil. after filtering i would push about 2mls of oil through the filter to try to get what's left in the filter out. I don't remember what my multiplier was for other powders but that's how i did it for prop....i know you guys aren't dummies (i'm not being sarcastic here) so tell me what it is that i'm not getting.

 

[Aaron S.]

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600mg per week

You are brave as hell dude, i can't imagine putting oil in my smaller muscle groups. I have always used water based: Winni, TNE for anything i put in my tris or bi's. And i have never even attempted putting anything in my calves. As a matter of fact i never put oil in anything but my delts thighs and glutes.

 

[brundel]

I think i must be making this easier than i should. I didn't know this was as complicated as it seems to be. When I'm measuring my dosage, if i'm making 100mls of prop for example and i'm going with 100mg/cc i throw some oil in a graduated beaker...say 80mls. i then throw 10 grams of powder in. Then i melt it down and slowly add oil till i hit 100mls....i guess some one needs to take me to school. I never do as little as 10mls anymore but when i did i think i adjusted for the amount of room the powder took up by considering one gram of powder to be .8mls. So if i used .1ml of BA and 1ml of BB i would adjust the powder weight by considering the powder, antimicrobial and solvent to equal 2mls and then add 8mls of oil. after filtering i would push about 2mls of oil through the filter to try to get what's left in the filter out. I don't remember what my multiplier was for other powders but that's how i did it for prop....i know you guys aren't dummies (i'm not being sarcastic here) so tell me what it is that i'm not getting.

It really is that easy.
We are over thinking a simple process.
Especially with test ....

With some compounds its pretty important to know the exact mg/ml.
Tren for example.

 

[brundel]

225mg/ml stating that nominally you're at nearly 5% underdosed, your powder is probably 98% pure (if you're lucky) and your measurements are probably off as well.

It could easily stack up to being 10% underdosed

YAh.....it really could.
98% would be like they made a mistake.

 

[cutright]

You are brave as hell dude, i can't imagine putting oil in my smaller muscle groups. I have always used water based: Winni, TNE for anything i put in my tris or bi's. And i have never even attempted putting anything in my calves. As a matter of fact i never put oil in anything but my delts thighs and glutes.

I'm not shooting 600mg of EQ in my small muscle groups that's that other dude that does that...he ask me how much EQ I was going to run and I said 600mg per week...I shoot in my delts and thighs bro^^^^^^

 

[Aaron S.]

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I'm not shooting 600mg of EQ in my small muscle groups that's that other dude that does that...he ask me how much EQ I was going to run and I said 600mg per week...I shoot in my delts and thighs bro^^^^^^

My bad. As usual i wan't paying attention to who was saying what. DUH !

 

[Aaron S.]

have to do a full body detox (legal shit) will the little bit of maltodextrin in my water and whey need to be cut out ??

 

[Aaron S.]

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I used olive oil once to make 100ml. of prop a couple of times cause i was absolutely broke. Heated the shit out of 200mls of oil then put it through 4 coffee filters before putting it through a .45 then i added the powder/BB,BA. then put it through a .22 and it came out pretty good. People questioned the color but it wasn't that big a deal. No complaints.

I have been VERY lucky when it comes to raw supply. I have always used China as a source but, as you said, in the past 5 years all of the suppliers i used before 2006 are no longer in business. My luck came from having a good relationship with my suppliers. Half the time when one shut down they recommended another company.

 

[Pork Chop]

My bad. As usual i wan't paying attention to who was saying what. DUH !

Im that other dude,, lol

I do site inj with eq, winny (oil based UGL) and inj d-bol

lol

 

[UA_Iron]

So if I was sticking with the .75 standard am I overdosed?
Say test enth or deca at 300mg/ml

.75 you will be underdosed for all hormones.

 

[keith1569]

thanks for the info..i will def be changing it to to like .9

 

[Aaron S.]

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Im that other dude,, lol

I do site inj with eq, winny (oil based UGL) and inj d-bol

lol

Oil based winny - i saw a formula for that on baskilleronline. For the Dbol do you use guiaicol or do you buy that 25mg/ml averbol stuff from a UGL?

 

[Aaron S.]

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It really is that easy.
We are over thinking a simple process.
Especially with test ....

With some compounds its pretty important to know the exact mg/ml.
Tren for example.

You say it's important for Tren. Is that because of the acetate ester? What do you think solvent wise i would need for some Test acetate? what about multiplier (for room it's gonna take up)? Can i just do what i usually do and throw the powder in, melt it down with the solvents in it then add oil till i get the desired mg/ml ratio??

 

[keith1569]

im assuming becuase it is a strong compound compared to say test for example.

 

[brundel]

You say it's important for Tren. Is that because of the acetate ester? What do you think solvent wise i would need for some Test acetate? what about multiplier (for room it's gonna take up)? Can i just do what i usually do and throw the powder in, melt it down with the solvents in it then add oil till i get the desired mg/ml ratio??

The reason its important with tren is that for most people the difference between "holy shit I love tren".....and..."Fuk my life I think Im gonna die"...is like 50-100mg.
So....the people who say they make it by dissolving in supersolvent (guiacol)BA,BB..then drain and filter but need to shoot 200mg ED or eod....its because they really only have 50mg/ml (roughly) tren.
Trust me .....you get a terrible product this way.
Its even worse for tren E because it builds up in the system.....blood hormone levels can be 3-5 times higher with the same dose of E over A.

Gotta know what mg per ml. The only way to know is to weigh the raw powder first.

 

[brundel]

Honestly......I would still recommend leaving the powder weight alone in the calc.
If you know the numbers to use....then use em. If not dont fuck with it.

 

[yerg]

The reason its important with tren is that for most people the difference between "holy shit I love tren".....and..."Fuk my life I think Im gonna die"...is like 50-100mg.
So....the people who say they make it by dissolving in supersolvent (guiacol)BA,BB..then drain and filter but need to shoot 200mg ED or eod....its because they really only have 50mg/ml (roughly) tren.
Trust me .....you get a terrible product this way.
Its even worse for tren E because it builds up in the system.....blood hormone levels can be 3-5 times higher with the same dose of E over A.

Gotta know what mg per ml. The only way to know is to weigh the raw powder first.

Yes, but you can also get rid of all the binders and shit by using the methyl alcohol(HEET) method as shown on basskilleronline. You get good raw hormone out of that. I must say that the last time i did two carts (4grams worth) i only got 2.6grams back but at least I know my dosage....

 

[brundel]

Yes, but you can also get rid of all the binders and shit by using the methyl alcohol(HEET) method as shown on basskilleronline. You get good raw hormone out of that. I must say that the last time i did two carts (4grams worth) i only got 2.6grams back but at least I know my dosage....

THis is correct.

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/2264315-post77.html

 

[cutright]

So what's the verdict for changing weight? For say Test E keep it at the standard or change it?

 

[Aaron S.]

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The reason its important with tren is that for most people the difference between "holy shit I love tren".....and..."Fuk my life I think Im gonna die"...is like 50-100mg.
So....the people who say they make it by dissolving in supersolvent (guiacol)BA,BB..then drain and filter but need to shoot 200mg ED or eod....its because they really only have 50mg/ml (roughly) tren.
Trust me .....you get a terrible product this way.
Its even worse for tren E because it builds up in the system.....blood hormone levels can be 3-5 times higher with the same dose of E over A.

Gotta know what mg per ml. The only way to know is to weigh the raw powder first.

Oh yea dude absolutely. I only do the tren thing by extracting the crystals drying them am then weighing it for conversion. I haven't done that fina kit thing in a loooong time.
As you know (brundel) i have switched to TNE and nothing else. I'm not having any water issues yet but it's only been a week. So i guess i'll see.

 

[Aaron S.]

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THis is correct.

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/2264315-post77.html

I have done like 50 or 60 Tren crystal extractions using the methy technique and i have to tell you bro, for tren it's not as easy as syno. You have to use filters that the crystals won't get stuck in, you have to spray wash it to kind of fluff it, and somtimes you have to filter the methyl tren h2o solution a couple of times to get what your gonna get. Even still if you use finaplix-h cartridges your only gonna get like 3 grams from 2 carts. If you go with the component-TH strip(4g strip) you will get 3.6 g's. That's a 20% higher yield and use a 60 watt lamp NOT the OVEN but don't get it too close. I'm sure there is someone on here that's gonna say "i get 4 grams every time with Finaplix-H cartridges so your doing something wrong Aaron" But i have HONESTLY TRIED EVERYTHING! and the type of cartridges you use, the type of filters you use, and the way you wash it DOES MATTER. By the way i quoted the wrong person. I was addressing the guy who only gets 2.6 grams/2 carts. Sorry about that brundel. You know i would never try to explain conversion to you. LOL

 

[Aaron S.]

Abs still look about the same.

 

[keith1569]

ya i agree any other thoughts on changing powder weight..i am quite conflicted..i mean changing like 100ml from .75 to .9 is only like 4ml which isnt huge..but i am def interested in what others say

 

[yerg]

I keep mine at .8 always... period

 

[keith1569]

i could see how .8 would be a good number to..inbetween ha

 

[yerg]

You could make a chart for yourself with all the weights of aas, but no...... .8 is good

 

[Aaron S.]

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ya i agree any other thoughts on changing powder weight..i am quite conflicted..i mean changing like 100ml from .75 to .9 is only like 4ml which isnt huge..but i am def interested in what others say

I use mg/ml and ester weight (if there is an ester) as a guide line. What i really go by is feel. If i'm using 150mg of prop/day and that's working for me, and i switch to enanthate or cypionate and jack it up to 200mg/day (yes i do inject daily regardless of what i'm using) if i don't feel as good as i did on the prop i'm not gonna stay at 200. i'm gonna push it a little. If you make a batch....are you guys just paying that much for raw that .3g's is gonna hurt you economically? I mean if i'm gonna tell someone something is 200mg/ml i'm gonna know that it's at least that by making sure each 10ml bottle has 2.20 g's in it and if it's for me i'm gonna have at least that. I go by a kinda..."it's at least 200, or it's at least 300 way of doing things". I know that the only reason any of us are on here is strictly for academic purposes and if i say i "do something or give something" i'm actually saying if i were to do or give but "hypothetically" if your working with 50-100 grams of a given raw material, you should have the latitude to throw a little extra in for good measure right?

 

[Aaron S.]

I saw some safflower oil in publix day before yesterday. It looks almost colorless and didn't seem to thick. it has vitamin E and another antioxidant in it. It was like 8 bucks for a quart so i grabbed and used it yesterday on my salad and in my fish and i think it's pretty good. Any thoughts on using this stuff? Any of you guys ever use it for conversion?

 

[manbag83]

Im planning on doin the tren pellet to powder conversion and was wondering if i could use pharmaceutical sterile water in the process instead of distilled water? Will this make a huge difference? anyone have any thoughts?

 

[Aaron S.]

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Im planning on doin the tren pellet to powder conversion and was wondering if i could use pharmaceutical sterile water in the process instead of distilled water? Will this make a huge difference? anyone have any thoughts?

It's water and nothing else? I mean your not talking about using bacteriostatic h2o - h2o meant for injection? This is not suitable and an incredible waste because of it's other uses.