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[brundel]

Im planning on doin the tren pellet to powder conversion and was wondering if i could use pharmaceutical sterile water in the process instead of distilled water? Will this make a huge difference? anyone have any thoughts?

Bac water is distilled water and benzyl alcohol.
Water and alcohol is not a good idea for rinsing.

 

[brundel]

14$ a liter

 

[keith1569]

I like Safflower oil pretty good..I actually saw Grapeola the other day and gonna give it a try.

 

[manbag83]

I never said anything about bacteriostatic water. Sterile Water for irrigation purposes etc, not for injection. I was just wondering if it would work in place of the distilled water... I have both, Just for future reference.

 

[booze]

any aussies had luck getting powder through. ive been in discussions with a couple of people...havent quite worked up the balls to drop an order yet...

 

[brundel]

I never said anything about bacteriostatic water. Sterile Water for irrigation purposes etc, not for injection. I was just wondering if it would work in place of the distilled water... I have both, Just for future reference.

Then.......it is distilled water.
Or boiled.

 

[becomeabodybuild]

this gets complicated

 

[Aaron S.]

A.

I never said anything about bacteriostatic water. Sterile Water for irrigation purposes etc, not for injection. I was just wondering if it would work in place of the distilled water... I have both, Just for future reference.

You have one with a label that says distilled, you have one with a label that says for irrigation. But they are the same thing. That's why it was confusing. You have distilled water in two different containers. Hospitals use distilled water for irrigation. The container that medical grade water comes in has a special lining. At least the stuff i had did.

 

[bccs]

I have a quick question about filtering, I'm planning on using bottle top filters as I dont want to run a few hundred mls through whattmans but I cant figure out how to get the sterile oil from the reciever bottle to the sealed sterile vials without contaminating it, any ideas?

 

[keith1569]

you could get like a 20cc or 60cc syringe or something and like an 18g needle..u could suck it up..
what i have done with no issues, is take like a 20cc syringe stick it in with no needle and suck up the oil, attach a new needle and push it into the sterile vial
I just use the same 20cc syringe per batch i make and havent had any issues yet. if you wanted u could use a new sterile syringe for every transfer of oil to the vail

Keith

 

[brundel]

Use a septa top.
Some are sterile but most are not so be aware you will need to sterilize them.
I can show you how if you do not know. Just let me know here so I can post it publicly.
Make sure the diameter of the top matches the diameter of the receiver container.
A septa top will have a rubber stopper similar to a vial. You just puncture and draw out the necessary amount.
I used to filter 1000ml and attach a septa top.
Then transfer into 100ml and 50ml vials. Its easier to store 10x100ml vials than 100x10ml. Just be sure to transfer into 10-20ml vials for use.

 

[Aaron S.]

i can't figure out how to do friend requests.

 

[Aaron S.]

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i can't figure out how to do friend requests.

Sorry to post that in the main forum fellas. I meant to send it as a private message. Anyway i figured it out.


Thanks,
A

 

[Himik]

The "Powder Weight" box in calculator probably means the density of the compound i.e. how much volume will the compound take up when dissolved.

 

[bccs]

Thanks Brundel, would a pressure cooker suffice to sterilize the top?

 

[Himik]

Correct me if i am wrong, but i think you can just put tops into H2O2 solution to sterilize them.

 

[brundel]

Thanks Brundel, would a pressure cooker suffice to sterilize the top?

Pressure cooker will work similar to an autoclave.
Make sure the you double check the max temp for the tops though.. some can take a ton o heat some not.

 

[Himik]

The "Powder Weight" box in calculator probably means the density of the compound i.e. how much volume will the compound take up when dissolved.

Strike that the "Powder Weight" box means the inverse of density. So to find the value you would divide 1 by the density of the compound you are brewing.

 

[Himik]

So for example Test E value would be 0.94 and Tren A would be 0.85.

 

[ROID]

I have done like 50 or 60 Tren crystal extractions using the methy technique and i have to tell you bro, for tren it's not as easy as syno. You have to use filters that the crystals won't get stuck in, you have to spray wash it to kind of fluff it, and somtimes you have to filter the methyl tren h2o solution a couple of times to get what your gonna get. Even still if you use finaplix-h cartridges your only gonna get like 3 grams from 2 carts. If you go with the component-TH strip(4g strip) you will get 3.6 g's. That's a 20% higher yield and use a 60 watt lamp NOT the OVEN but don't get it too close. I'm sure there is someone on here that's gonna say "i get 4 grams every time with Finaplix-H cartridges so your doing something wrong Aaron" But i have HONESTLY TRIED EVERYTHING! and the type of cartridges you use, the type of filters you use, and the way you wash it DOES MATTER. By the way i quoted the wrong person. I was addressing the guy who only gets 2.6 grams/2 carts. Sorry about that brundel. You know i would never try to explain conversion to you. LOL

I only get about 2.5 to 3 grams per two carts. I would like to see someone get 90% yield.

 

[UA_Iron]

So for example Test E value would be 0.94 and Tren A would be 0.85.

Exactly like I said, .85 is the lowest value you'd ever use for any powder. Highest you'd use is .971 for test undecanoate.


Want a good middle ground to use? Use .9 and you'll be within a few percent.

But .8 is absolutely wrong for all powders.

 

[Aaron S.]

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I only get about 2.5 to 3 grams per two carts. I would like to see someone get 90% yield.

I'm about to right now. Don't have $ for 50g's and don't need that right now anyway. I bet i get at least 3.45...it's been about 6 mos since i have don't this so i might be a little rusty. I have never gotten more than 3g's from finaplix-h, but if you use component-th your gonna get more.

 

[cutright]

Exactly like I said, .85 is the lowest value you'd ever use for any powder. Highest you'd use is .971 for test undecanoate.


Want a good middle ground to use? Use .9 and you'll be within a few percent.

But .8 is absolutely wrong for all powders.

Good info bro^^^^^^

 

[Himik]

I'm about to right now. Don't have $ for 50g's and don't need that right now anyway. I bet i get at least 3.45...it's been about 6 mos since i have don't this so i might be a little rusty. I have never gotten more than 3g's from finaplix-h, but if you use component-th your gonna get more.

Good luck!

 

[Aaron S.]

Thanks Himik,


Already can tell it's been a while since i have done this. I forgot to cut my coffee filters down...damn if you don't trim those things and filter the binders slowly the methyl alcohol/tren gets sucked into the whole coffee filter. You loose at least .1g's that way. I don't know if any of you have noticed or not but if you don't trim them down to the smallest possible size for filtering out the binders you end up with a slightly yellow tinge throughout the filter. That's the methyl/tren that got sucked up the sides of the coffee filter. This is stuff you have lost.

 

[Aaron S.]

to prove my point if your using a 1 gram coffee filter and you don't trim it before you filter out the binders you can wash the binders off completely and then let it dry. weigh it and you will see that it now weighs like 1.13 grams. If you think it's cause of binders throw it in the microwave and i bet it looks like something melted in the fibers of the filter. That's tren.

 

[brundel]

The coffee filter will retain some of the tren for sure.
The funny thing........

People think if they run the whole cart dissolved in BA/BB through a syringe filter hardly any will be retained by the filter. They then claim 100mg/ml tren but also state they need to shoot 200mg x 4 weekly.
I wonder why?

 

[Aaron S.]

A.

The coffee filter will retain some of the tren for sure.
The funny thing........

People think if they run the whole cart dissolved in BA/BB through a syringe filter hardly any will be retained by the filter. They then claim 100mg/ml tren but also state they need to shoot 200mg x 4 weekly.
I wonder why?

I'm doing the methyl alcohol/tren crystal thing right now. but your right, the same principal applies. the thing about tren crystals, unlike doing a syno/prop crystal conversion, is that tren crystals actually take a little time to grow. If you don't give it a little time in the fridge (i stick it in the fridge for like 6 hours) you have mostly tren powder. That's a real bitch to filter no matter whether or not you spray wash it or not. If you spray wash tren crystals they kind of fluff (i'm gonna take some pictures) up and much less of it gets stuck in the filter.
oh and your right about dosage. People think they are getting 100mg/ml when doing the BA/BB fina kit thing. Even though you can find out on a number of educational sites that you should pre-suppose you getting no more than 75mg/ml with that method. I have heard a number of people claim they do 150-200mg/day and you know when you hear that they are overestimating the strength of their brew.

 

[Himik]

You are absolutely right Aaron gravity filtration inevitably leads to the loss of a compound.

 

[cg89]

anyone know where i can get some? I know 2 sites where i can get test e powder but their minimum is 100grams and im not trying to make that much all i need is maybe 1-5 grams