homebrew powder

[tyzero89]

Define "high volume"?
If its under 150ml its almost not worth buying all the gear like a vac pump, stericup filters, septa tops, etc when you can just buy a few needles a big syringe and a couple filters. ( youll need the syringe and needles as well with the stericup.)

ya this is how im looking at it. Once i realized i had to get the pump and everything i just dropped that idea and went back to the basic method.

 

[bulldogz]

what is the best BA to BB ratio for test e and/or test c for a painless shot...

2% - 20%
5% - 15%
2.5% - 10%?

 

[OldSchoolLifter]

what is the best BA to BB ratio for test e and/or test c for a painless shot...

2% - 20%
5% - 15%
2.5% - 10%?

depends on the dosage but a standard 250mg/ml Test E with 2% ba and 20 % BB is nice and smooth

 

[bulldogz]

depends on the dosage but a standard 250mg/ml Test E with 2% ba and 20 % BB is nice and smooth

Sorry...was thinking around 250-300...would like to try the 300mg/ml to tell you the truth...

 

[OldSchoolLifter]

Sorry...was thinking around 250-300...would like to try the 300mg/ml to tell you the truth...

Same ratio would be fine 2% ba 20% bb brother

 

[TREMBO]

I've posted in other topic the maximun concentration that some users got without so much pain...

I'm planning to brew T Cypi and nandrolone deca at 400mg/ml 2% ba 20%bb

 

[keith1569]

Dont really want to run high volume through a syringe filter. Why wouldn't you recommend a stericup to use at first? PVDF style.

ya man if only making about 100ml at a time, just get some syringe filters, but if you got the extra funds spring for the stericup and vacuum setup..makes things a bit easier and faster

 

[jackedntan]

When just using the syringe filter method do u use a new needle when filling each individual vial? Or let's say u brewed 150ml, its in the beaker. So I would suck up 20ml at a time and filter into a sterile vial, and then would I need to swap in a new sterile needle between each 20ml of oil being filtered into the sterile vial? Or is this not neccesary?

 

[tyzero89]

I wouldnt think you would need to change it as long as the needle doesnt get dropped or touch something else making it not sterile.

 

[booze]

depends on the dosage but a standard 250mg/ml Test E with 2% ba and 20 % BB is nice and smooth

Basskilleronline calls for 5 ba and 15% bb which is what I used. Is this fine?

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[bwrag]

Whats the powder weight of test E?

 

[Bigbully100678]

A lot of people go with .85-.9 when calculating the powder weight. That seems to be the consensus from what I have read.

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[OldSchoolLifter]

Basskilleronline calls for 5 ba and 15% bb which is what I used. Is this fine?

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Basskiller is great, But im 100% sure he recommends 5% Ba to ensure sterility, Im sure he doesn't want to be blamed when someone brews their own and the ba is to low.

5% is going to sting a bit

2% BA and 20% BB has been a winner for me for just about everything standard

 

[bwrag]

When I brew do I save 2cc's out of basskiller formula to flush filter, or do I use 2 seperate cc's that are not included in the calculation. also if Im going to use eo and gso do I do a 50/50 mix?

 

[OldSchoolLifter]

When I brew do I save 2cc's out of basskiller formula to flush filter, or do I use 2 seperate cc's that are not included in the calculation. also if Im going to use eo and gso do I do a 50/50 mix?

Brew 2 cc more, of just use 1.5 ml of grape seed to flush out filter. For the EO and GSO mix, 50/50 is good!

 

[bwrag]

So does this look good for 50 ml of test e 250

oil- 14 ml EO, 14.4 ml GSO
Powder - 12.5
BA - 1ml
BB - 10 ml

flush with 1.5 cc gso.

also would it hurt anything to use 13 grams of powder and change nothing else to overdose it a bit

 

[OldSchoolLifter]

So does this look good for 50 ml of test e 250

oil- 14 ml EO, 14.4 ml GSO
Powder - 12.5
BA - 1ml
BB - 10 ml

flush with 1.5 cc gso.

also would it hurt anything to use 13 grams of powder and change nothing else to overdose it a bit

looks good man, and no it wont hurt to overdose the powder a bit

 

[bwrag]

looks good man, and no it wont hurt to overdose the powder a bit

Thanks I appreciate it.

 

[booze]

Basskiller is great, But im 100% sure he recommends 5% Ba to ensure sterility, Im sure he doesn't want to be blamed when someone brews their own and the ba is to low.

5% is going to sting a bit

2% BA and 20% BB has been a winner for me for just about everything standard

Ahhh ok, thanks for the info. My mate has had several injections now and he said its the same pain as the vet grade prop we've used. So might just stick to that ratio for the time being. Thanks again.

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[brundel]

When just using the syringe filter method do u use a new needle when filling each individual vial? Or let's say u brewed 150ml, its in the beaker. So I would suck up 20ml at a time and filter into a sterile vial, and then would I need to swap in a new sterile needle between each 20ml of oil being filtered into the sterile vial? Or is this not neccesary?

I would recommend filling 1x 100ml and 1x 50ml vial from the beaker.
This way you only need 3 needles. 1 for filling and one for venting and one for drawing.
If your only filling 2 big vials its fine to use one needle.

Remember this is for filling. Do not draw with the same needle you punch onto the vials. 1 needle can be used to draw out as much as you like or as many times as you like if its pre filter.
For filtering use 1 or 2 but fill big vials. If your syringe only holds say 20ml just disconnect the filter but leave it in the vial so the filter and needle never leave toe 100ml vial. Reattach the draw pin and suck up more gear.. then switch out for filtering.

After you have everything filtered you can transfer into smaller 10ml vials when needed.

 

[brundel]

Basskilleronline calls for 5 ba and 15% bb which is what I used. Is this fine?

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You do not need 5% BA for 250mg test E.
2% tops.
Pharmacies use .9%
Remember the BA is not to sterilize it is to keep things sterile.
The alcohol makes it a hostile environment for bacteria and fungi.

The job of sterilizing is up the the sterile filter.

 

[booze]

Ok, might try 2% ba and 20%bb next. What role does the bb play?? No one seems to talk of the bb lol

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[UA_Iron]

I have never used them.
Nylon may be faster but faster isnt always better especially when we are sterile filtering. In addition the zap caps can only tolerate 122 degrees F where as PVDF can tolerate roughly 3 times that. PVDF can also tolerate higher acidity.

You can try both.
The millipore ones do also have a tendency to crack if you are not patient and go over maybe 5psi.

Remember though, your making a substance sterile for injecting into your body. Patience is a virtue here.

Nylon is not compatible with Benzyl alcohol - even at 1% BA. Do not use it.

And I agree with Brundel, PVDF is superior choice for filtering, its chemical compatibility is excellent.

PTFE (teflon) filters are the absolute best, but they run a premium. PVDF is a fine choice.

Just some other FYI info for the board:
PES is not compatible with BB
Nylon is not compatible with BA
PES and Nylon are not compatible with Guaiacol, (and most likely not EO).

 

[UA_Iron]

Ok, might try 2% ba and 20%bb next. What role does the bb play?? No one seems to talk of the bb lol

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BB prevents crystallization of the compound in the muscle (reduces pain of short esters essentially) as well as a co-solvent to keep the powder in solution.

 

[UA_Iron]

So does this look good for 50 ml of test e 250

oil- 14 ml EO, 14.4 ml GSO
Powder - 12.5
BA - 1ml
BB - 10 ml

flush with 1.5 cc gso.

also would it hurt anything to use 13 grams of powder and change nothing else to overdose it a bit

test e @ 250mg/ml does not require EO or BB to stay in solution or be relatively painless.

test e 250mg/ml (50ml)
12.5g Test E
37.21ml carrier oil
1ml BA

simple as that.

 

[OldSchoolLifter]

test e @ 250mg/ml does not require EO or BB to stay in solution or be relatively painless.

test e 250mg/ml (50ml)
12.5g Test E
37.21ml carrier oil
1ml BA

simple as that.

While true, BB will help change the viscosity of the oil making it easier to draw and to pin through smaller gauge needles.

 

[keith1569]

Either way with test e at 250mg/ml..you can use bb if you want at like 10% or none..both have worked..

 

[Bigbully100678]

Either way with test e at 250mg/ml..you can use bb if you want at like 10% or none..both have worked..

True, I made my batch at 10%, and it was virtually painless, maybe a .5 on a pain scale of 10.

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[booze]

BB prevents crystallization of the compound in the muscle (reduces pain of short esters essentially) as well as a co-solvent to keep the powder in solution.

Perfect, thanks for the reply.

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[Aaron S.]

A.

You do not need 5% BA for 250mg test E.
2% tops.
Pharmacies use .9%
Remember the BA is not to sterilize it is to keep things sterile.
The alcohol makes it a hostile environment for bacteria and fungi.

The job of sterilizing is up the the sterile filter.

Damn bro...i feel like a total idiot. I honestly thought it killed anything already in it. I filter so i'm not scared i fucked anything up in the past it's just that i thought wrong.

(hey folks. Had a stay in the big house so i'm sorry i haven't responded to anyone in over a month)