How can u guys use it?

[Mudge]

Protein or diet is never a substitution, gearheads who weigh more, eat more.

But yes, its is somewhat amusing that the supplement industry costs more in general. It depends though how many middlemen someone goes through before they get their product.

There is nothing wrong with saying no thanks. So long as a person does not persecute others when they dont know what they are talking about.

People should not be burned at the stake or imprisoned for using steroids. This is not cocaine or heroin here, people aren't putting themselves on the street with this stuff.

 

[Rich46yo]

Even someone like me knows the use of steroids has come a long way thru the years. I know guys in their 40s and 50s who stack/cycle and have never had a bad side effect. Ive been tempted to try them but because of my job and testing Ive always been afraid to. Steroid use has always been huge in every competitive sport. Bodybuilding has just gotten a bad rap for it because its a sport that has largely shunned hypocracy and lieing. People tend to forget the huge health benefits the sport has brought humanity and instead like to focus on negativity.

If you want to see steroid use/abuse then just look at the major leauges. Or did you think all those home runs in baseball were being hit cause the wind was blowing out all the time???..........................Rich

 

[kvyd]

what are negative sides of roids under 18-21 other than stunted growth? are the other sides more prominent in younger folks...... doc told me my growth plates have closed.

 

[Mudge]

Young people are humans just like older people, except your hormone levels are still at their peak. First before starting a person needs a solid training and dietary background, because if you can't make gains naturally you wont do much on gear. Gear doesn't fix all of these things on its own, in fact like I have brought up before gearheads eat harder in shorter stints. Normal guys might bulk with a 500-1000 calorie jump, gear guys could go to 2000 over maintenance, it is generally laborous eating like this day in and day out.

Anyhow, if your doctor really took a look at you and determined that, then the possible side effects are the same, up to and including death.

If you have a heart murmer or blood pressure issues, baldness in the family then you have a lot study to do before you sign on the dotted line.

Research and knowlege of your OWN body and health are the keys to staying fit.

 

[Arnold]

Re: WOOOOO!!

Originally posted by W8lifterwanabie
Thanx for teaching me a lil bout it mudge iinstead of laughnig at my dumbness

all of your posts were condencending and ignorant, you were not asking questions about steroids in a manner that was conducive to "learning", it seemed that you just wanted to push some buttons.

maybe you should re-read everything you posted here and try and understand why you got the response you did, luckily Mudge is very patient, or at least he was in this thread.

 

[JerseyDevil]

As usual, he did a great job answering those questions and providing the proper perspective on a complex subject. I would have never been so patient considering the poster's 'cutsie' attitude. Way to go Mudge.

 

[W8lifterwanabie]

oi

JD wot u mean by cutsie

 

[kvyd]

yeah im gonna stick with diet and creatine for now since ive only been lifting a year

 

[Big Smoothy]

w8lifeterwannabe,

If you don't like them, then don't use them.

A matter of personal choice.

When intelligently used, they are less harmful than soda pop, cigarettes and alcohol.

Contact the tabacco companies....

 

[BUSTINOUT]

Re: BCC i agree

Originally posted by W8lifterwanabie



but i just believe if its illegal its obviously illegal for a reason...

Ya, because the people making the laws are stupid too. lol

 

[Arnold]

yup, and it's just all politics and money.

the same reason that ephedra was banned, the same reason andro is going to be bannd, etc.

 

[Evil ANT]

Steroids really can't be legal, unfortunately. No way would the government trust millions of people to carry needles on them and stick themselves. It wouldn't work.

Why not?

Because people are inherently stupid. I mean, think about it. Think of all the problems that would stem from people being able to legally inject themselves whenever they saw fit. Most people can't even take diet pills correctly, let alone jab themselves with a needle.

No doubt in my mind that like cigarettes, people would leave used needles laying around. Kids would find them. It would be bad. Just an all around impossible situation. We all know that there are young kids who smoke cigarettes because they're so readily available through their parents. In fact, just yesterday I spotted a little twelve-year-old girl walking by my place smoking a cigarette. If steroids were legal, it's obvious kids would start taking them, too. Ten-year-old boys sticking themselves in the school bathroom.

You can say that's far-fetched and wouldn't happen, but you're wrong. It totally would. It would be like cigarettes, only worse. At least cigarettes kill you slowly. You inject sloppy enough, or pop enough pills, and you'll be dying way faster than a cigarette could kill you.

Hence, steroids can never be legal.

 

[Mudge]

It was made illegal because the people who controlled sports came to Congress and fed them a bunch of bull. I have no idea why this occured because anyone with a brain knew that steroids were in football at that time. Maybe they really were stupid enough to think it was just a dozen or two NFL players.

 

[JerseyDevil]

Re: oi

Originally posted by W8lifterwanabie
JD wot u mean by cutsie

Ok. Smartass would have been a better description.

 

[gr81]

Re: BCC i agree

Originally posted by W8lifterwanabie
it is pretty ignorant for what i say which i am sorri for


but i just believe if its illegal its obviously illegal for a reason...

I tried, ....I tried to ignore this stupid fuckin thread, but I am sorry. For a person who just read Rick Collin's Anabolics in America for the second time I just couldn't ignore this statement any longer. If I told you the process in which Steroids were scheduled you would be so unbelievably outtraged that our government operates this way you would want to leave the country. The fact is that substances are not scheduled b/c of health risks and concerns, but instead foolish people making monetary-based decisions on our behalf. The fact is that the agencies who were to make the case of whether or not anabolic steroids had the necessary criteria to fall under the scheduling system were the Food and Drug Administration and the DEA, neither of which were convinced that these synthetic hormones should be scheduled. There were false testimonies, flat out lies tossed aorund, and a sea of misinformation feuling this decision, much so to the extent that I could not possibly sit here in one little post and describe the process to you. Just know that it was teh same type of ignorance you have displayed in this very thread, along with political and person gain that was behind teh scheduling of these drugs, which in turn has had several large repurcussions, again to the extent at which you cannot fully describe in this thread. The US government is directly responsible for the black market situation in Mexico and other companies by their actions. I could sit here all day and type about this injustice and that injustice but the fact is that there are too many people out there like you who do not bother to educate themselves on topics before crucifying an entire population of people as you have with your ignorance. The fact is that many bodybuilders may be meatheads, but an incredibly large percentage of the steroid using populace are more educated in biochemistry, and anatomy then some doctors, just from the steroid game. We understand chemical concepts that you baffle you. Maybe if you didn't believe what the government tells you all the time like a drone, and went out and did some research on a topic for yourself, maybe then this wouldn't happen. Do you know how many people die every year from over the counter medications like Tylenol? It is a number much higher than that pf ephedrine-related deaths, and it wouldn't even be fare to compare that to anabolic steroids, since they don't kill people. In fact go through your little medicine cabinet and I bet you almost everything you have in there talllies more deaths singlehandedly then many other more "stigmatized" drugs.. readup
You think we are all idiots for using these drugs that just magically bulk us up, think what you wants. but next time keep your fuckin mouth shut little man, the next time you think its a good idea to throw your ignorant and unjustified opinions in the face of others. I am done with this idiot

 

[Michael D]

Just look at his name and sig. Wannabe and he laughs at being fat.

Isn't it strange he only "wants" to lift weights and seemingly finds it amusing he is overweight, yet is a member of a bodybuilding site?

What a joke

 

[Mavs]

Sorry for going a bit off topic here, but NICE AVATAR gr81..

 

[gr81]

ha ha, yes sir trish is the diss, no dout about it! I love her

 

[RCfootball87]

Re: Re: well...

Originally posted by Mudge
You are a successfully brainwashed citizen, congragulations. You would make George Orwell proud, he wrote a book about people just like you.

Laughing my ass off. Funny but sad. I hate my generation.......

 

[splatman]

W8lifterwanabie,

Please stay in school and get some spelling lessons.

 

[Mudge]

"Steroids dont kill bodybuilders, diuretics do."

One of my favorites.

 

[eab221]

Well my best friend made me do it...haha, just kidding. He only strongly advised