How many calories at one time?

[Tom_B]

I've read somewhere before that eating alot of calories at one time can send a surge of insulin throughout your body, but how much is that? Like today when I went out to DQ to get a strawberry chessecake blizzard (530 calories and 74 grams of carbs) I thought since basically all it is, is fat and sugar I could add a scoop of Whey Protein to kinda even out The insulin I'd be getting from all the sugar, but would that just be even worse cause I'd be consuming so many calories at one time?

 

[QuestionGuy]

dude, what the hell are you doing eating that shit,????

 

[Tom_B]

Because I'm only 120lbs at 5'7 and 15 years old and I'm trying to gain some weight, I'm eating 800 calories of junk food a day and 2000 calories of clean food a day.

 

[monkeyd]

er... eat 2800 calories of clean food and go from there.
believe me it will be easy to eat that much soon enough

 

[atherjen]

I could EASILY eat 2800 calories of good clean healthy food.. .. and Im a girl!! Its not hard at all, choose more calorie dense foods such as whole eggs, milk, nuts, lean beef, whole grain pasta, etc ,etc.

quality over quantity first.

 

[MarcusMaximus]

a very fit, athletic and attractive girl...if you don't mind me saying so...

 

[P-funk]

Because I'm only 120lbs at 5'7 and 15 years old and I'm trying to gain some weight, I'm eating 800 calories of junk food a day and 2000 calories of clean food a day.

1) 2800 cals of clen food is easy. I eat around 4000+ cals of clean food with no problem.

2) you probably have a fast metablsim so that shake with the blizzard can easily be consumed.

3) If I were you I would try and get 3000 clean cals and then if you are hungry add some crap on top of that to help your weight gain. Then bump to 3500 cals after awhile and add whatever shit ontop you want....BUT only after you get the good stuff in.

 

[Tom_B]

well my problem is that if I eat 3000 calories of clean food I'd be as bloated as hell, thats why I'm eating the junk food, cause i can get less for more.
Or would eventually if i ate that much of clean food I'd get use to eat and not get bloated?

 

[atherjen]

what do you mean "bloated" ... elaborate some.

 

[Tom_B]

Well my stomach sticks out and I feel really sick like I have to vomit or something. I can barely get through 2300 calories of clean food

 

[P-funk]

how many calories are you eating at each meal? How many meals a day are you having. You may have to split your meals up and eat more frequently.

 

[Tom_B]

I do, I have 6 meals a day, each one at max would be 500 calories (cause I'm not sure how many calories you can eat at one time without the surge of insulin) and I usually try and aim for a minumum of 300 calories

 

[Skib]

thats why I'm eating the junk food, cause i can get less for more.

but those are empty calories that lack specific nutrients that your body needs to gain muscle mass...

 

[Jodi]

I do, I have 6 meals a day, each one at max would be 500 calories (cause I'm not sure how many calories you can eat at one time without the surge of insulin) and I usually try and aim for a minumum of 300 calories

And you think a DQ Blizzard doens't cause and insulin surge?

 

[atherjen]

let see a layout of your diet.. meal by meal and how much.

 

[Tom_B]

but those are empty calories that lack specific nutrients that your body needs to gain muscle mass...

Yes I know but it's the only way I'm finding to get the calories in me, and to kinda balance it I take a really good multivitamin daily.

And you think a DQ Blizzard doens't cause and insulin surge?

No I know it causes one, a really bad one espically since it got thr 70+ grams of sugar, But if you look at my original question I said I put in a scoop of whey protein just to kinda reduce the insulin surge by a little if at all, but I was wondering if I actually got a even bigger insulin surge because of the added calories of the protein powder.

let see a layout of your diet.. meal by meal and how much.

This is my usual diet:
Breakfast 1: Calories Fat Carbs Protein
1 cup of Specail K carb fit - 147 3 39 26
1 cup of whole strawberries - 43 1 10 1
1 glass of Skim Milk- 88 0 13 8.8
1 cup of Green tea- 0 0 0 0
1 fat free Dessert Flavored yogurt-60 0 11 4
Or
Breakfast 2:
1 Cinnamon raisin Bagel- 220 1 45 8
1 glass of skim milk- 88 0 13 8.8
1 1/2 TBS of Light Peanut Butter- 133 10 9 5
1 cup of green tea- 0 0 0 0
1 cup of whole strawberries - 43 1 10 1

Snack 1:
1/2 cup of cottage chesse 99 1 7 15
10 Rice thins 70 1 17 1
Apple 65 0 17 0
20 grapes 32 0 8 0
Or
Snack 2:
Glass of Skim milk 88 0 13 8.8
2 scoops of whey protein- 240 3 10 42
Cinnamon Roll 200 6 28 3

Lunch:
1 small 100% whole wheat pita bread-72 0 15 3
Apple 65 0 17 0
glass of skim milk 88 0 13 8.8
2 ounces of Chicken Breast(w/o skin) 97 2 0 17
2 scoops of whey protein 240 3 10 42

Snack- Anywhere between 600-800 calories of junk food

Supper1:
2 cups of Chinese Broccoli (cooked) 40 1 7 2
2 ounces of chicken breast (w/o skin) 97 2 0 17
Supper2:
Chicken Chow Mein 272 10 35 28 Supper3:
Exactly like breakfast 1
Supper 4:
Exactly like breakfast 2
Snack:
Can of tuna 120 0 0 28
some sorta fruit

I'm also going grocery shopping today and I'm gonna be picking up some nuts, and egg whites so I'll be replacing some stuff with them.
I'm also gonna make these special kind of pancakes
Per 2 pancakes- 270(calories), 5(fat), 30 (carbs), 25 (protein)

I also take 2 MegaMan multivitamins daily.

Personally I don't see whats so wrong about eating a little bit of junk food, I'm only 15 I should take advantage of my reved up metabolism while I can and worry and cutting it out of my diet once I get older and my metabolism slows down.

 

[LAM]

way to much fruit and not enough complex carbs like oats, beans, etc. your diet is also very low in fats.

since you are only 15 i'm assuming that your parents shop for you. will they pretty much buy you what ever you want or do you have to eat what is around the house ?

 

[Tom_B]

No they know I only eat certain foods so Every week I go out with my mom and buy my own set of groceries for the week, and my mom picks out the rest of the familys, so i can get basically anything I want.

 

[atherjen]

I agree with LAM, you rely too much of your carb source on fruit, cut back on those as well as the bagels, Special K cereal, rice thins.. stick to things like old fashioned oatmeal, brown/wild rice, sweet/red potaotes, whole grain pasta, whole grain breads, strachy veges such as green peas and corn as well as fiberous sources.

You need more protein, equal portions at each meal.

add some whole eggs, nuts, keep the milk. How about cottage cheese?

Add in better EFA's (healthy fats), olive oil, flax oil, hempseed oil, avocados, fatty fish and fish oil supplements, dry roasted/raw nuts/seeds, egg yolks, etc.

 

[Nate]

this is an interesting read with respect to short term overfeeding.

 

[Tom_B]

I don't eat that many fruits and vegetables...I only eat 5 servings a day.
I also went out today and got some egg whites and trail mix, honey whole weat bagels (they'd be alright cause there whole wheat right?), some oatmeal, unsweetned peanut butter. I also got some spinach, Celery, romain lettuce, 12 mini cucumbers, extra small bananas and some broccoli florrets for some fiber. But my problem is I don't know how much of each counts as one serving, I knew 1 small orange, and a small apple equal 1 serving cause of common sense but I have no clue how much of the other stuff counts as one serving.

I also tried cottage chesse, that stuff was gross but I stomached it, but instead of that I'm just gonna ahve fat free mozzarela chesse/ chesse slices. 30G of the chesse is 10.4G of protein and 60 calories, and the chesse slices is 5.1G of potein and 31 calories. I'm gonna use the chesse to replace the cottage chesse and the chesse slices to replace the yogurt.

 

[aztecwolf]

this is an interesting read with respect to short term overfeeding.

that article disses fat more so then it does talk about overfeeding

 

[Nate]

that article disses fat more so then it does talk about overfeeding

go to the top of the page and use the arrows. it goes much further than that.

 

[Tom_B]

For breakfast today i had 2 packages of Quakers regular oatmeal (with calcium) a glass of skim milk and a scoop of whey protein along with a 1/2 a cup of cucumber (it was the most sickest crap I've ever eaten), for my worning snack I plan on have 3 inches of fat free chesse (20g of protein) and 8 Breton multigrain thin wheat slices crackers, 250ml of egg whites (25g of protein) and a really small banana.
Am I on the right track now?

 

[largepkg]

For breakfast today i had 2 packages of Quakers regular oatmeal (with calcium) a glass of skim milk and a scoop of whey protein along with a 1/2 a cup of cucumber (it was the most sickest crap I've ever eaten),

 

[Tom_B]

lol I take it that I'm not then...

 

[BoneCrusher]

Why skim milk?

 

[LAM]

For breakfast today i had 2 packages of Quakers regular oatmeal (with calcium) a glass of skim milk and a scoop of whey protein along with a 1/2 a cup of cucumber (it was the most sickest crap I've ever eaten), for my worning snack I plan on have 3 inches of fat free chesse (20g of protein) and 8 Breton multigrain thin wheat slices crackers, 250ml of egg whites (25g of protein) and a really small banana.
Am I on the right track now?

you need to switch to Quaker 100% Whole Oats. don't eat the packaged crap it's loaded with sugars...

 

[Tom_B]

It's made with 100% whole quaker oats, with no sugar added, It's only 1G of sugar per package, is that the stuff your talking about or is there better stuff?

I drink Skim milk cause my stomach can't handle anything else, everything else coats my stomach and I feel sick

 

[Tom_B]

crap the trail mix I picked out is really bad..
per 1/4 of a cup:
208Calories
8.4 protein
14Fat (2.2 sat, 61% calories from fat)
12Carbs (4.6 sugar, 2.1 starch, 5.1 fibre)
The ingredients are: Peanuts, Raisins, Sunflower seeds, Cashews, Almonds, Pumpkin seeds, Vegetable oil, salt.
If I just didn't eat the sun flower seeds would that reduce the fat/sugar in it?