How to come off a long cycle [heavyiron]

[OneWheyOrAnother]

How should somebody come off of a blast/cruise/blast/cruise/etc... that has lasted for around 1 year?

Age 28; 225lbs @ 10% body fat.

 

[Retlaw]

Im also intrested, 6 mnths very little time off.

Thanks

 

[SFW]

Last 2 wks of cycle - hcg 1500-2500 iu eod or e3d

wks 1-4 clomid 100/100/100/50 ed
wks 1-4 aromasin 25/25/25/12.5 ed

Other helpfuls for cortisol, natty test and strength....zinc, vitamin c, creatine.

Wouldnt hurt to have some sildenafil or tadalafil on hand.

My 2mls

 

[exphys88]

bump.
I'm going for a blast-cruise-blast then pct. anyone have experience with this and recovered?

 

[Ravager]

GnRH (Triptorelin)

Research Triptorelin.

 

[OneWheyOrAnother]

Wow very cool. Wouldn't this affect the negative feedback though ?

 

[evanps]

Wow very cool. Wouldn't this affect the negative feedback though ?

Saw a post a few months back bout triptorelin (GnRH) and researched it quite a bit. Peer-reviewed stuff.. it doesn't appear to at very low doses. 100mcg or even smaller doses in "pulsatile" methods of delivery are used to treat hypogonadism of various forms. High doses do though, and in fact are given for the purpose of completely shutting down HPTA, for treating prostate cancer or other various reasons.

 

[heavyiron]

My PCT protocol is pretty aggressive in the first cycle sticky. Just go with that. If you have to you may need a second Clomid restart but only labs can confirm.

 

[OneWheyOrAnother]

My PCT protocol is pretty aggressive in the first cycle sticky. Just go with that. If you have to you may need a second Clomid restart but only labs can confirm.

So if I have been running HCG @ 500iu x 2 times weekly then....

I should do the following;

16 days before the ester clears [HCG @ 1000iu EOD]

Begin the following 2 weeks after last injection

Days 1 - 21 [Clomid @ 100mg ED (split twice daily & 20mg Aromasin ED)
Days 22 - 28 [Clomid @ 50mg ED & 10mg Aromasin ED]
Week 1-4 [Vitamin C @ 3g ED split 3 times throughout the day]
Week 1-4 [10g creatine daily]

Is this correct?

Also, when you say a second clomid restart, is that basically the Clomid @ 100/100/100/50 ???

 

[heavyiron]

So if I have been running HCG @ 500iu x 2 times weekly then....

I should do the following;

16 days before the ester clears [HCG @ 1000iu EOD]

Begin the following 2 weeks after last injection

Days 1 - 21 [Clomid @ 100mg ED (split twice daily & 20mg Aromasin ED)
Days 22 - 28 [Clomid @ 50mg ED & 10mg Aromasin ED]
Week 1-4 [Vitamin C @ 3g ED split 3 times throughout the day]
Week 1-4 [10g creatine daily]

Is this correct?

Also, when you say a second clomid restart, is that basically the Clomid @ 100/100/100/50 ???

Looks good.

The second course of Clomid may be 50mg daily for 4-6 weeks but don't run it without labs first. If you have a decent LH signal the second Clomid restart is not needed.

 

[OneWheyOrAnother]

Great advice !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[heavyiron]

Great advice !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Once you get labs basically you will know what to do from here on out. This will be very valuable for future cycling/recovery.