how to increase bench press?

[P-funk]

Thanks squaggle...........im 22 and wish i trained properly years ago. I am training with a friend who is into powerlifting and in a month and a half have learnt alot and progress is good for me at the moment. As for my squat unfortunately the weight you see in my signature does not qualify for powerlifting as I can not at the moment get that weight to below parrallel but handling that weight above parrallel is not problem.

handling the weight above parallel is not a squat so don't make false claims to your lifts. Perform the exercises properly and reap the benefits. Stop wasting your time with quater reps.

 

[PowerHungry]

Yes thats what ive done now. Ive knocked the weight right down and squat as low as i can which is past parrallel and accelerate up for 3 reps. Il add 5kg every week and in about 3 months il be at about 160kg raw squat for 3 reps. Then i can learn how to use a suit and from what i see most people gain about 30kg when the suit is used correctly. BUt right now ive got to get used to squatting so low as i have never done this.

P funk i am not making a false claim......because i can get to maybe 2inches above parrallel with the heavier weight......so im sorry but i am handling the weight as it is only the further 2 inches that are causing the problem (its still much lower than 95% of people i see squatting in the gym making big claims.

 

[P-funk]

Yes thats what ive done now. Ive knocked the weight right down and squat as low as i can which is past parrallel and accelerate up for 3 reps. Il add 5kg every week and in about 3 months il be at about 160kg raw squat for 3 reps. Then i can learn how to use a suit and from what i see most people gain about 30kg when the suit is used correctly. BUt right now ive got to get used to squatting so low as i have never done this.

with most of those suits you are going to have to have some serious weight on the bar just to sit down into a squat with it. they are pretty spring loaded. why not just compete raw?

 

[PowerHungry]

That is very true P funk You need alot of weight to get down that low in a suit. If i compete raw i will be at a substantial disadvantage as I dont know of anyone from what ive seen compete raw. If i can compete raw with a very good weight ie better than those who compete with suits i will do it raw but no point otherwise.

 

[ihateschoolmt]

That is very true P funk You need alot of weight to get down that low in a suit. If i compete raw i will be at a substantial disadvantage as I dont know of anyone from what ive seen compete raw. If i can compete raw with a very good weight ie better than those who compete with suits i will do it raw but no point otherwise.

They have raw meets. Your not allowed to use a suit in those.

 

[P-funk]

That is very true P funk You need alot of weight to get down that low in a suit. If i compete raw i will be at a substantial disadvantage as I dont know of anyone from what ive seen compete raw. If i can compete raw with a very good weight ie better than those who compete with suits i will do it raw but no point otherwise.

find a raw meet to do. that is all. I get agravated with powerlifting meets because of all the suits they were to squat and bench in. give me a fucking break! 3-ply metal squat suit. what the fuck is that shit. be a man and squat.

 

[PowerHungry]

I dont really like the idea of suits either tbh. Thing is the british powerlifting championships allow suits to be worn and thats what i was hoping to enter (simply b/c a friend of mine was competing in this too) but i didnt know there were also comps with no suits. (are these drug tested too in the uk?)

 

[ihateschoolmt]

I dont really like the idea of suits either tbh. Thing is the british powerlifting championships allow suits to be worn and thats what i was hoping to enter (simply b/c a friend of mine was competing in this too) but i didnt know there were also comps with no suits. (are these drug tested too in the uk?)

They have tested and non tested meets for suits and raw.

 

[P-funk]

I dont really like the idea of suits either tbh. Thing is the british powerlifting championships allow suits to be worn and thats what i was hoping to enter (simply b/c a friend of mine was competing in this too) but i didnt know there were also comps with no suits. (are these drug tested too in the uk?)

don;t know about the UK. In the US there are organizations that put on raw/tested meets. You just have to look for them. For the british powerlifting championships you will not only have to wear a suit to be competitive but you will probably have to get on a cycle to compete and get up there with most of those guys. the sport is filled with lots of drugs in most cases.

also, it isn't even just wearing the suit that helps. You have to know how to use the suit and get the most out of it. Simply putting it on and just trying to squat wont give you the best benefit and may just make you uncomfortable.

 

[CowPimp]

Yea Mudge i guess your right it wont last forever. May as well keep at that to bring up my total as my bench lets my total down a bit. Just out of interest Mudge how do you train legs.....do you use chains or elastic bands or neither. Im new to powerlifting and see alot of people using these.....would they benefit me?

My opinion on chains and bands is that they are more beneficial to people who will be wearing squat and bench suits. This is because the suits largely aid you in generating a lot of starting strength. The chains and bands work to strengthen the upper portion and lockout on these lifts, which is of utmost importance when performing lifts suited.

This is not to say that they have no training value at all for the raw lifter, quite the contrary. However, you are probably going to need to implement chains and bands less to increase weights if you're performing these lifts raw.

 

[PowerHungry]

Yea i no that as i have been told. It will take a while to learn how to use the suit properly. By cycle do you mean steroids.........because its drug tested here in the uk for the comp im hoping to enter. Besides im not willing to take any drugs i dont even take protein powders or anything 100% natural 100% of the time. May sound extreme but i want everythin on my own merit and i hate the idea of powders and stuff.

 

[P-funk]

Yea i no that as i have been told. It will take a while to learn how to use the suit properly. By cycle do you mean steroids.........because its drug tested here in the uk for the comp im hoping to enter. Besides im not willing to take any drugs i dont even take protein powders or anything 100% natural 100% of the time. May sound extreme but i want everythin on my own merit and i hate the idea of powders and stuff.

I agree with you. I don't want to take anything like steroids to compete.

I know they say it is tested. But, jus because it is tested doesn't mean that the people are clean. There are always ways around the test and people will always beat it.

 

[CowPimp]

Yea i no that as i have been told. It will take a while to learn how to use the suit properly.

Check out these sites that have information on proper lifting form for each of the lifts. Probably most of them will be geared toward wearing a suit. However, if you are going to be performing your lifts raw, I think Yanick posted a link about squatting raw a while ago that I could dig up for you.

Irongame has a lot of PL videos. Watch their form closely. See how the big guys do it.

http://www.irongame.com/ - Goto the videos section
http://www.elitefts.com/
http://www.t-nation.com/

By cycle do you mean steroids.........because its drug tested here in the uk for the comp im hoping to enter. Besides im not willing to take any drugs i dont even take protein powders or anything 100% natural 100% of the time. May sound extreme but i want everythin on my own merit and i hate the idea of powders and stuff.

I highly respect that. Personally, I do use whey protein and a multi-vitamin/mineral. However, I share the same views as you. I want my gains to be my own. Good eating is the way to do it.

 

[P-funk]

Personally, I do use whey protein and a multi-vitamin/mineral. However, I share the same views as you. I want my gains to be my own. Good eating is the way to do it.

same here (if I remeber to take the multi....lol). I am all for drug testing.

 

[PowerHungry]

Yea well good luck to them.......i wana be fit n healthy and live long LOL. I cant think of anythin worse than being real strong and people knowing it but you know in your own head you cheated....well like you said people will always find a way round testing. Im excited to be power lifting and really enjoy it at the moment and the satisfaction of putting that bit extra on the bar makes it worth it (even more worth it when you know you aint cheated)

Thanks cowpimp for your advice.

 

[CowPimp]

same here (if I remeber to take the multi....lol). I am all for drug testing.

In this context, I agree. I can't understand why people would want to juice and compete in a natural competition. So what if you win? You juiced your way to the top... Congratulations, pussy.

 

[P-funk]

In this context, I agree. I can't understand why people would want to juice and compete in a natural competition. So what if you win? You juiced your way to the top... Congratulations, pussy.

no, I am saying all contest should be natural!! I am against contests that allow the use of performance enhancing drugs. It is upseting to see things like the Olympics when the entire bulgarian team or turkish team or greek team are stripped of medals for failing their post competition test.

 

[The Monkey Man]

I look at some of the supplement lists these kids post on here
and I'm like...

Is all that shit really making a difference!? -

 

[TheCurse]

 

[Squaggleboggin]

Yes, it's destroying them from the inside out and turning them into women. Sounds like fun to me.

 

[PowerHungry]

Thanks cowpimp for the links....will keep me busy for a while.

Monkey man.....you know what it is........when your like 16 you will try anything and everything to get there quick to get big and your so gullible its unbelievable. Its funny it was only until i brought a book called BRAWN that i started thinking about training and my conclusion.........BE CONSISTENT STICK TO THE BIG LIFTS TO GET BIG. Unfortunately, i lost interest in training and took me years of doing nothin to get motivated...........so im back.....& seriously POWERHUNGRY lol

 

[P-funk]

Yes, it's destroying them from the inside out and turning them into women. Sounds like fun to me.

Now I didn't say that. There are positives to steroid use provided you use it properly and intelligently and know what you are doing. It does good things for many people. I don't care if people use it, especially if it is for enhancing the way that you look (adding muscle mass, decreasing fat, etc..). I personally don't want to use them but that doesn't matter. I think that if people want to use them then do it. But, if you are planning on competining in a strength meet then I think it should be tested and those that are "on" should not be allowed to compete.

 

[ihateschoolmt]

I look at some of the supplement lists these kids post on here
and I'm like...

Is all that shit really making a difference!? -

My too. I really don't think it matters either. I don't see very many kids matching my gains that are done with out any supplement. No protein powder, no creatine, hell, I don't even take vitamins (that's not a good idea, I know, but I hate pills).

 

[CowPimp]

no, I am saying all contest should be natural!! I am against contests that allow the use of performance enhancing drugs. It is upseting to see things like the Olympics when the entire bulgarian team or turkish team or greek team are stripped of medals for failing their post competition test.

I agree as well. When I said in this context I meant that I don't agree with mandatory drug testing as part of determining the sentence of someone in a court case, random drug testing in the workplace, etc.

 

[P-funk]

I agree as well. When I said in this context I meant that I don't agree with mandatory drug testing as part of determining the sentence of someone in a court case, random drug testing in the workplace, etc.

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