I dont understand cycles.

[MrRockstar]

I have been working out for a while, used prohormones in the past but did them with minimal research, so you know how that story goes. I have been gaining weight and strength with my current bulking and workout plan (I buy burger patties in bulk and eat them as snacks) but I'd like to amp it up. I want to do a cycle, correctly of course, of Cel's M-drol or H drol. I know I need to take products to raise my test and drop estrogen after the cycle as well as a liver aid.
-I dont know the time frames of when to take these things.
-while on the cycle do I only take the pro hormone?
-If I add things during the cycle, what do I add?
-do i take the recomended dose or is there a system to determine my own?
-what schedule do I follow? ex. 6 weeks of m drol followed by X weeks of liver aids and a Nolvedex like supplement to block estrogen and raise test.

I have read the sticky but didnt understand it.

 

[cavtrooper96]

I would stay away from any CEL products. They are no longer making any PHs and I believe (from experience) that the last of all their batches are underdosed and/or not even the advertised product. Also, it was proven that their was a batch of Mdrol that was DHEA.

 

[MrRockstar]

What about epistane/havoc?

 

[Caretaker]

Get some DMZ(on sale this month) right here at Ironmag. It is Superdrol and I think Creatine(could be wrong but it has an additive). People are getting great results. You`ll want to take fish oil, liver supps with it for the cycle(3-4 weeks) and then clomid and/or Nolva for your pct along with fish oil and liver supps. You`ll need to eat like a beast and train hard. Sleep is also very important. As far as dosage, it is different for everyone. I can take 30 mgs a day and not get any headaches, others take 10 mgs and get headaches. You will also want to have some taurine on hand for back pumps and maybe some Hawthorne Berry for blood pressure.

 

[VictorZ06]

Pro hormones suck, use the real thing. They are MUCH less harsh than pro hormones.

Agree 100%. Man up and do it right or forget about it and keep the skirt on.


/V

 

[Arnold]

Pro hormones suck, use the real thing. They are MUCH less harsh than pro hormones.

that is a blanket statement that is not always true, many PH's work great and cause no damage, e.g. 1-Andro Rx.

 

[Arnold]

Get some DMZ(on sale this month) right here at Ironmag. It is Superdrol and I think Creatine(could be wrong but it has an additive). People are getting great results. You`ll want to take fish oil, liver supps with it for the cycle(3-4 weeks) and then clomid and/or Nolva for your pct along with fish oil and liver supps. You`ll need to eat like a beast and train hard. Sleep is also very important. As far as dosage, it is different for everyone. I can take 30 mgs a day and not get any headaches, others take 10 mgs and get headaches. You will also want to have some taurine on hand for back pumps and maybe some Hawthorne Berry for blood pressure.

Super-DMZ Rx is Superdrol Dymethazine, and it works.

 

[Supermans Daddy]

Agree 100%. Man up and do it right or forget about it and keep the skirt on.


/V

First I know absolutely nothin bout PH's but this is an interest'n topic to me. To the OP, Man much respect for ask'n question's with an open and honest attitude. As Clint would say " a man's gotta know his limitations" look'n for information and bein honest bout what you don't know is an excellent way to learn.

I agree with my teacher Vic in his response, I try to use the logic that actual steroids have been round for a long time and we have had a chance to see the results of use for 20, 30, 40, plus years and the effects of that use. PH has not been round long enough to see long term effects. Truly it would seem that the safer of the two would be AAS. because of a reserchable history over an extended peroid of time that PH's just don't have. NO ONE knows really what the results of PH on the body will be in 20 or 30 years. But thats just me, and what would I know anyway.lol

Peace and Love

 

[South Paw]

NEW and NEED HELP

Whats up everyone. So about 3 years ago I did like a half a cycle. If memory serves I was doing 1 CC 3 times a week alternating between DECA QV 300 and SUPER TEST-250. Just stopped for personal reason and now ready to go full force. Questions:

• Where the hell can I get quality gear?
• I had some gains before and no issues healthwise and would like to use something similar. Any suggestions?
• Cycle: 1 cc m,w,f up to 2 cc m,w,f up to 3cc m,w,f then back down in reverse order. Then take "Clomid" (?).

Thanks for any input!

 

[Caretaker]

Agree 100%. Man up and do it right or forget about it and keep the skirt on.


/V

DMZ(and any Superdrol product) IS a steroid, not a prohormone.

 

[Arnold]

DMZ(and any Superdrol product) IS a steroid, not a prohormone.

 

[Caretaker]

Sorry

 

[Supermans Daddy]

DMZ(and any Superdrol product) IS a steroid, not a prohormone.

Interest'n indeed. Would this be what I sometimes hear being called a pro steroid ? I'm a bit confused that if this is a true steroid then the question becomes more bout it's effectiveness when compared to simular steroids ( I'm guess'n D bol ) and the advantages of use'n it over something like D bol.And if this is a real steroid would'nt you need a Testosterone base still ? I also am interested in the effective PH's and how/why if someone would please explain. I can't see them in my future but I would like to understand them. Aside from M1T, I've always thought of them as kinda like baby steroids or simply fakes. Please someone enlight'n me if you would be so kind.

Peace and Love

 

[slimshady95]

Whats up everyone. So about 3 years ago I did like a half a cycle. If memory serves I was doing 1 CC 3 times a week alternating between DECA QV 300 and SUPER TEST-250. Just stopped for personal reason and now ready to go full force. Questions:

• Where the hell can I get quality gear?
• I had some gains before and no issues healthwise and would like to use something similar. Any suggestions?
• Cycle: 1 cc m,w,f up to 2 cc m,w,f up to 3cc m,w,f then back down in reverse order. Then take "Clomid" (?).

Thanks for any input!

Why don't u wait and start ur own tread,hahahaha,There is a tread for newbs,a tip don't jump into someone else's tread to start ur own......and this is not a source check,do some research,post ur age and stats,