ideal fruits for cutting.

[ikam]

Fruits only fill liver glycogen, not muscle glycogen and it doesn't take much fructose to fill your liver. If you eat too much fructose you spill over, spilling over means turning to fat.

There was an implication that fruit is detrimental to ones progress if fat loss is the goal at hand. Correct? I understand that you did not say it was evil and I, in no way typed that.

What I was trying to convey is that statements like the one you made is why people are so afraid of eating fruit. They oversimplfy something because it's been touted as having a negative effect in some way.

Fruit is good, it tastes yummy and should be part of a balanced nutritional program. That's my opinion.

 

[Jodi]

And if you read ALL my statements you would have seen that I said fruit was good as in a 1-2 pieces per day.

 

[bulletproof1]

this is 1 of those subjects where opinions are going to differ. i prefer to keep fruit to a minimum if any at all. if eating fruits dont hinder your cut, then gobble all you want. i dont see the need in clogging up a thread just because a difference of opinions though. whoever started this thread asked for an opinion and they have gotten several. let them take the advice and see what works best for them.

 

[ikam]

*sigh* I read them.

I disagree that anymore then 1-2 pieces a day wll be harmful towards fat loss. My problem with your posts is that you have not said why. You have just stated that, and I quote, "but I still feel too much of it can hinder results in a cutting diet. I also feel that those carbs could be used more wisely coming from complex carbs especially those in a caloric deficit."

Why should complex carbs be used moreso then something like fruit?

 

[ikam]

this is 1 of those subjects where opinions are going to differ. i prefer to keep fruit to a minimum if any at all. if eating fruits dont hinder your cut, then gobble all you want. i dont see the need in clogging up a thread just because a difference of opinions though. whoever started this thread asked for an opinion and they have gotten several. let them take the advice and see what works best for them.

Opinions need to be supported by useful information that is applicable to the topic at hand. Stating, "it is good," does nothing to help shed light on the question.

 

[bulletproof1]

Opinions need to be supported by useful information that is applicable to the topic at hand. Stating, "it is good," does nothing to help shed light on the question.

the opinions that are stated in these forums are what works for each individual. not every program, tip, routine, diet, schedule, etc will work for everyone. the purpose of this site and these forums are to gather information and incorporate them into a personal plan that helps meet your goals.

 

[Jodi]

OMG - How much more do I need to say? Notice I said if you eat TOO much...............

Complex carbs are a better choice because of filling muscle glycogen.

Fruits only fill liver glycogen, not muscle glycogen and it doesn't take much fructose to fill your liver. If you eat too much fructose you spill over, spilling over means turning to fat.

Although, someones diet, goals and somatype needs to be looked at more closely when determining how much fruit one should eat. As you said, fruit has MANY beneficial attributes and should always be part of ones diet but I still feel too much of it can hinder results in a cutting diet. I also feel that those carbs could be used more wisely coming from complex carbs especialy those in a caloric deficit.

Now someone on a maintenance diet or bulking, then yeah, eat up. There are alot more benefits from the fruit than not.

 

[ikam]

So it's gone from being 1-2 pieces to "too" much? I'm a bit confused. I apologize if I'm gettting your panties in a bunch.

Btw, you never answered my question.

"Why should complex carbs be used moreso then something like fruit?"

 

[Jodi]

How bout you read........I'm done here.

 

[ikam]

the opinions that are stated in these forums are what works for each individual. not every program, tip, routine, diet, schedule, etc will work for everyone. the purpose of this site and these forums are to gather information and incorporate them into a personal plan that helps meet your goals.

They are also used to educate the readers by allowing members to take part in mature discussions. One can not do this if all they say is, "it worked for me," or " it works for me, try it."

 

[ikam]

Count to 10 and get back to me Jodi. Hope I didn't ruin your morning.

 

[bulletproof1]

So it's gone from being 1-2 pieces to "too" much? I'm a bit confused. I apologize if I'm gettting your panties in a bunch.

Btw, you never answered my question.

"Why should complex carbs be used moreso then something like fruit?"

she thinks 1-2 pieces is harmless. anymore than that she feels is more likely to turn to fat. she has stuck to her story since the beginning.

complex carbs are always better when cutting. if you dont know that then i dont think you are in any position to question jodi.

 

[ikam]

she thinks 1-2 pieces is harmless. anymore than that she feels is more likely to turn to fat. she has stuck to her story since the beginning.

complex carbs are always better when cutting. if you dont know that then i dont think you are in any position to question jodi.

I doubt a grown woman needs someone to explain herself to me.

Complex carbs, simple sugars, Low/high GI, stop thinking in the box. Step outside, the air out here is fresh.

She is saying two different things. What I am asking her to do (which is not hard btw) is to explain why more then 1-2 pieces of fruit is going to be detrimental towards fat loss.

It's pretty straight forward, no?

 

[bulletproof1]

They are also used to educate the readers by allowing members to take part in mature discussions. One can not do this if all they say is, "it worked for me," or " it works for me, try it."

is this a low carb day for you or what?

if someone asks for my opinion i tell them what works for me and what doesnt. it doesnt mean someone else will get the same results because everyone is different. maybe my body tends to store fat more easily if i consume more fruit than you. not every opinion warrants a scientific explanation.

 

[bulletproof1]

I doubt a grown woman needs someone to explain herself to me.

Complex carbs, simple sugars, Low/high GI, stop thinking in the box. Step outside, the air out here is fresh.

She is saying two different things. What I am asking her to do (which is not hard btw) is to explain why more then 1-2 pieces of fruit is going to be detrimental towards fat loss.

It's pretty straight forward, no?

i prefer to stay in the box that i know works for me.

as far as you getting your answer to your repetitive question, perhaps you should try rereading this thread. it is mentioned several times.

 

[ikam]

You're missing my point. Read this, it will enighten you.

Quoted by SF

"Now what kills me is when people use "everyone is different" as a cop out for actually being intelligent on the subject. "What works for you may not work for me." Sorry, that's bullshit. That's what someone says when they don't want to understand there is a better way, and don't want to be shown what it is.

There are facts in this world as to how and why things are as they are. Why we breathe oxygen. How water hydrates the body. Protein's role in ATP. These things are known and have been proven time and again by science. Science doesn't lie. If it did lie, some of us would breathe hydrogen while others still breathed argon."

Btw, I've had zero carbs and it's 8:40am.

 

[ikam]

i prefer to stay in the box that i know works for me.

as far as you getting your answer to your repetitive question, perhaps you should try rereading this thread. it is mentioned several times.

You're missing my point and I think you're choosing to.

 

[bulletproof1]

sorry, i guess i am not easily enlightened.

the success of a bodybuilder is by trying several techniques until they find what exactly works for them. anyone reading this thread (except you) will agree with me on this. some do 40-40-20 some do 33-33-33 some do 50-30-20. why? because everyones bodies do react differently. if you want a scientific reason for what i believe i cant give you 1. a lot of my knowledge has come from trial and error.

 

[Jodi]

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/issa14.htm

And as bullet said, we ARE all different and I don't give a shit what SF said.

Now, I am done and I WILL not come back to this thread

 

[Dale Mabry]

And as bullet said, we ARE all different and I don't give a shit what SF said.

Wrong, there is only one fruit for cutting, I give to you, that fruit...

 

[Jodi]

I am staying away from fruit now