Intensity

[greatone3210]

I hope i am not wrong about this but i thought intensity was different from overtraining. It was said in a reply that lifting to failure piont might be overtraining. I think that would be more of intensity and not overtraining am i right???

 

[Monolith]

You're right.

Lifting to failure is a matter of intensity. Lifting to failure twice a day 7 days a week is a matter of overtraining.

 

[Arnold]

Originally posted by greatone3210
It was said in a reply that lifting to failure piont might be overtraining.

here? who said that? thread?

 

[greatone3210]

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=309623#post309623

 

[Arnold]

hmmm...I do not know why he said that.

If your goal is size then liting to failure is an effective means to size gains. If you're lifting in the 4-6 rep range that means you should be failing either on the 4th, 5th or 6th rep. If you can do 6 reps withou failing that would mean the weight is too light, and you're not going to be overloading the muscle.

Overtraining generally occurs when you do not give your body enough time to recuperate, as well as inadequate nutrition, lack of sleep, etc. are all contributing factors. Going to failure on all of your sets does not cause overtraing.

 

[FortifiedIron]

Originally posted by Monolith
You're right.

Lifting to failure is a matter of intensity. Lifting to failure twice a day 7 days a week is a matter of overtraining.

As a matter of load you defined Intesity properly, defining it as a matter of a mean of trianing to failure as muscular effort you did not use it correctly. The term should better be Intensivness. HIT should also be called High IntenSIVE Training rather then Intensity.


Kc

 

[FortifiedIron]

Originally posted by Prince
Going to failure on all of your sets does not cause overtraing.

Care to explain to me how? and could you plz enlighten me with the 'universal' study that everyone refers to when they make this fallacy comment?


Kc

 

[Arnold]

How about if you first explain to me how going to failure causes overtraining since you made this statement first.

 

[FortifiedIron]

If you know ANYthing about the CNS you should know. All movement is controlled by the CNS, contracting a muscle is an act of the CNS, when you train to 'failure' (which should be better said momentary muscular fatigue as actually the muscle isnt failing) your CNS is what is failing not the muscle. The CNS doenst process the ability to contract the muscle due to fatigue. If you care to start quoting Manning, Brzycki, Jones,Lyle to back up your claims be my guest.. I'll rip them a new asshole like I have forever now, HIT science is the most incorrect science on earth.


Kc

 

[Arnold]

okay, but that is not an explanation of how training to failure causes overtraining.

please explain further.

 

[Monolith]

Originally posted by FortifiedIron
As a matter of load you defined Intesity properly, defining it as a matter of a mean of trianing to failure as muscular effort you did not use it correctly.

Kc

PLEASE REFER TO THE BRIGHT PURPLE ANIMATED SMILEY AT THE END OF MY POST.

Anyway, everyone else understood what i said.

Next time i'll be sure to research every variation of the word "intensity" and post a special reply just for you.

 

[FortifiedIron]

Originally posted by Prince
okay, but that is not an explanation of how training to failure causes overtraining.

please explain further.

And you havnt shown how it doesnt cuase over training. This is called intellectual debating, it isnt where one side says everything and the other side says nothing at all, but a further explaination.


Kc