Isolate different parts of chest?

[Uzi9]

Hummmm I used to think a muscle cant be isolated in differnet ways, but then it wouldnt explain this.


While sitting/standing up right and if you place your left finger on the bottom of your right pec and push your right arm outwards in front of you (like a no weight seated bench press), you will feel the lower part of your pec slightly contract but if you then extend your arm downwards (move hand diagonly downwards while seated or standing), you will feel a much fuller contraction in your lower pec.

Try to simulate a standing/seated bench pressing movement with your elbow/arm plane of motion.

Also if you do a diagnal extension upward you will not feel hardly any contaction in your lower pec.

 

[Saturday Fever]

I'm absolutely positive this has been covered about 800 times in the last month. Dig up the old threads. I've already explained why you feel what you described.

 

[Minotaur]

Hummmm I used to think a muscle cant be isolated in differnet ways, but then it wouldnt explain this.

Not all the fibers of a muscle fire or are called on to work at once.

Also if you do a diagnal extension upward you will not feel hardly any contaction in your lower pec.

Probably anterior deltoid and pec minor at work.

There is no lower/upper/inner/outer pec, only pec major and pec minor. Two different muscles.

 

[Saturday Fever]

Motor unit recruitment is a function of muscular tension, not of joint angle. If the MU's at the inner part of the chest aren't contracted, then neither are the ones at the outer part. Same applies to upper and lower or whatever other mysterious parts of the chest we're discussing. Or any muscle for that matter.

 

[pmech]

All I gotta say is LOL! Just when we get everyone happy again in one thread, another outter bicep thread starts.

 

[Arnold]

While sitting/standing up right and if you place your left finger on the bottom of your right pec and push your right arm outwards in front of you (like a no weight seated bench press), you will feel the lower part of your pec slightly contract but if you then extend your arm downwards (move hand diagonly downwards while seated or standing), you will feel a much fuller contraction in your lower pec.

yup, and that is exactly why people think that they can isolate a specific regions of a muscle.

muscles grow as a whole, plain and simple.

 

[Uzi9]

I also belive you can isolate your inner lower upper part of your bicep if you do a curl on a upside down preacher bench using a high cable pully and twist inwards at the contraction part of the motion while tilting your body outwards......

But seriously now it still puzzels me what I am feeling, I have read and understood what all methods try to preach.

 

[gopro]

 

[Hulkk500]

Actually I read in my iron man encyclopedia that their are 3 different angles you can hit the muscle (not to be confused with suppinated and reverse grip) 1. Over head 2. Over chest and 3. behind your torso. Each angle puts more stress on different heads of the muscle. The example the book made was of the triceps:
Overhead Tricep French Press Over Chest Skull Crushers Cable Rope Pulldowns.

Just something I thought I'd share if that has anything to do in relation with this topic

 

[Vieope]

It is already thrusday and finally someone posted something about isolating a part of a muscle. Now the week is almost complete.

 

[Pepper]

lol...these threads cause more trouble than the political or religious threads

 

[gopro]

 

[Arnold]

Actually I read in my iron man encyclopedia that their are 3 different angles you can hit the muscle (not to be confused with suppinated and reverse grip) 1. Over head 2. Over chest and 3. behind your torso. Each angle puts more stress on different heads of the muscle. The example the book made was of the triceps:
Overhead Tricep French Press Over Chest Skull Crushers Cable Rope Pulldowns.

Just something I thought I'd share if that has anything to do in relation with this topic

it's not relevant, we're not talking about different heads of a muscle group, i.e. 3 heads of the tricep, we're talking about different regions of a single muscle.

 

[Arnold]

lol...these threads cause more trouble than the political or religious threads

funny how we keep getting sucked into them and argue the same crap everytime and no one ever changes their beliefs!

 

[pmech]

There is always one guy who will start resorting to derogatory remarks. I cant wait to see who he will be in this thread.

 

[nmuriqi]

Ok, i've seen gopro yawning, and banging his head on a wall, but which side are you on? The "yes you can isolate," or the "no you can't isolate."

 

[Vieope]

 

[nmuriqi]

And what's with the blue bunny?

 

[Vieope]

It is my trademark here. My avatars are always blue bunnys.
Are you italian?

 

[Hulkk500]

it's not relevant, we're not talking about different heads of a muscle group, i.e. 3 heads of the tricep, we're talking about different regions of a single muscle.

Oh pooey, to bad, I can post whatever I want, doesn't matter what your talking about. Tough stuff bubba

Just playing, whats the difference. It has to do wtih the relation of working different parts of a MUSCLE. I can see if I started talking about how I want my legs to get bigger and how I pick my nose between sets, and eat them to restore my glycogen levels, but I didn't, so whats the big deal. Is this a dictatorship or a democracy. I have the free will to post whatever I want, finger cuff me. I'm sick of people telling other people off on forums. Where here, we all like the same thing, we all lift weights, we all are talking about weightlifting here right?????? So lets unite. Join forces, and kick puny butt!

 

[nmuriqi]

No, born in US, parents Albanian.

 

[MTN WARRIOR]

Well let me tell you what I think you friggin'....oops. sorry, drifting back to the "earlier in the week me". NEver mind

 

[Arnold]

Oh pooey, to bad, I can post whatever I want, doesn't matter what your talking about. Tough stuff bubba

Just playing, whats the difference. It has to do wtih the relation of working different parts of a MUSCLE. I can see if I started talking about how I want my legs to get bigger and how I pick my nose between sets, and eat them to restore my glycogen levels, but I didn't, so whats the big deal. Is this a dictatorship or a democracy. I have the free will to post whatever I want, finger cuff me. I'm sick of people telling other people off on forums. Where here, we all like the same thing, we all lift weights, we all are talking about weightlifting here right?????? So lets unite. Join forces, and kick puny butt!

because it had absolutely nothing to do with our discussion in this thread, we are not talking about the individual heads of a muscle group, we are talking about isolating different regions of a single muscle.

I never "told you off", and you can post whatever the hell you feel like, but if it is irrelevant or incorrect be prepared to get a response telling you so.

 

[pmech]

Lol nice MTN. Good job having a sense of humor

 

[gopro]

Ok, i've seen gopro yawning, and banging his head on a wall, but which side are you on? The "yes you can isolate," or the "no you can't isolate."

Hmmm, guess you haven't read many of my posts. Yes, you can isolate. Ok, done.

 

[Saturday Fever]

This argument grows tiresome. Someone should throw ALL these debates into their signature as links. And anytime someone chooses to bring this shit up, they can go over the old threads and decide foir themselves. Science or perception.

 

[Uzi9]

This argument grows tiresome. Someone should throw ALL these debates into their signature as links. And anytime someone chooses to bring this shit up, they can go over the old threads and decide foir themselves. Science or perception.

Science............perception....... how about spirituality... man!! the gyms my temple.

Now is any one gonna give thier opinion on why I feel my chest contract harder in differnt areas?

 

[Tha Don]

its simple!

different exercises/movements hit different parts of the muscle more than others...

e.g. declines work the lower chest, inclines work the upper chest, or side lat raise hits the side lats, front lat raise hits the front lats

dose that answer your question??

btw i'm not saying by doing 1 of these it will cause part of the muscle to grow bigger than the rest, as like prince has said muscles grow as a whole, but to stimulate maximum growth all areas should be hit, hence a chest routine of presses, inclines and dips would work better than just doing incline presses

thats my opinion anyway

 

[Saturday Fever]

Not true. I just posted in another thread this week the way motor unit recruitment works. It's a fact about the human body.

I've also described and answered the question as to why you "feel" something and why some things create the appearance of something, when the underlying event is wholly different.

I'm not going to repeat them here as I've posted this stuff about 7 times this week alone.

 

[Hulkk500]

Not true. I just posted in another thread this week the way motor unit recruitment works. It's a fact about the human body.

I've also described and answered the question as to why you "feel" something and why some things create the appearance of something, when the underlying event is wholly different.

I'm not going to repeat them here as I've posted this stuff about 7 times this week alone.

I agree with you 100% bro.