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I don't know why Benadryl (Diphenhydramine HCL) would be recommended until after the cycle? It's an antihistamine with some major anticholinergic effects such as dry mouth, blurry vision, urinary retention, increased heart rate, etc.

If need be, look into the topical form of benadryl and just apply a small amount. The drug has been around for a hell of a long time and it is proven to work. Maybe some others can chime in here....
 
I take 3 bendryl every night on a regular basis, haven't had any issues, helps me with sleep, and allergies.
 
jmorrison said:
Just an update, absolutely cannot sleep, and keep waking up sweating. Good signs for 3 weeks in!

On the downside, I have developed a fairly nasty itchy rash all over my legs/butt. It comes and goes, and almost looks like poison ivy, except that it goes away and then comes back. I have done a little reading on it, and apparently Tren can cause a mild allergic reaction in some people causing this. Bendryl seems to be recommended until after cycle. Anyone here have any experience with this?
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LOL You have to love Tren lol!!!! :winkfinger:
 
Pin 7 & bachelor party
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Pins are still going great, size is noticeable, although I have gained a lot of fat too through this dbol kicker. Definitely ready to run a cut.

Had my bachelor party this past weekend in NOLA, and had a friggin blast. That high pitched ringing that you heard saturday night was my liver crying for mercy. I don't know how much I drank, but I know it rhymed with "too fucking much".

Also had my first experience with tren inspired anger and dbol fatigue. Some kids (18-21ish) were chucking beer bottles from their balcony, and one smacked my old army buddy in the head. Instead of apologizing, they just talked a LOT of shit. Now keep in mind, I have seen this guy pull the trigger on many occasions. Good dude...just not exactly the Mother Theresa type you know? He took it well, but I apparently, and I say apparently because I only remember flashes, went up through the bar they were at, with one of my buddies buying a pizza (I know right?) from the bartender to keep him from calling the cops, found the balcony and skull fucked this kid.

I remember being that age and making poor decisions, but seriously, there were 9 of us, the smallest of whom was 200ish lbs, and most of whom come from combat MOS military. This wasn't this kids smartest move. Anyway, I don't really remember the whole thing, but I do remember thinking to myself as I was holding him down and hitting him "man I hope he is done, because I am tired."

Then, in what can only be described as a fit of awesome, the one guy we had with us who is a bonafide accountant type, who has never even raised his voice before, flew off the deep end, knocked down one of the other kids, got him in a full mount and pounded on him until we pulled him off.

It was epic.

Then I puked on a hooker and almost shit my pants. But that's another story.

Anyway, the cycle is going great and I am a happy dude.
 
WTF lol. Belongs in a sequel to hangover 2
 
Pin 8
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Yesterday was my last day of the Dbol. I gained (no shit) 22 lbs in 4 weeks. It had gone up to 26, but for some reason I flushed a shit ton of water the other day and dropped 4 lbs. My jeans are a little tight, but mostly through the legs, as the waist didn't change much.

I can feel the tren working. I am not sleeping for shit, I am itchy as hell, with a pretty good rash going on with my legs, and my body temp keeps spiking. My appetite has taken a hit in the last few days, but it has been 100+ degrees every day, and that probably has something to do with it.

Libido is way up. Averaging 2 times a day with the old lady, and sometimes a solo act too. For someone low on sleep that isn't too shabby!

Going to run the rest of the cycle in my PSMF micro cycles as I have in the past, and hopefully take advantage of the tren for some recomp. I gained a decent bit of fat over the last 4 weeks, and I need to trim it some before I get married at the beginning of Oct.

I don't know if it is the dbol, the tren, the 22lbs or a combination, but I am a sweaty lethargic fuck lol. I get tired walking to my bike in the morning.
 
Great log! The french quarter is filled with douche bags..
 
So I take it Z's gear is spot on!!!!:winkfinger: That Tren is no joke I am going to try Tren-E next time and compare the difference in Ace. Keep it up bud and keep this log going my dude....
 
PSMF seems to work well with tren bro :thumb:
 
Drop your test dosage to 250 & see what happens ... You can bump it up again post tren .... ;)
 
tren e is my fav. not as quick acting as tren a but when it kicks in gains are non stop
 
Pin 9&10
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Off of the dbol now, and am running a cut until Oct 8th (wedding date). I have lost about 7lbs since coming off the dbol, and strength took a hit, but that was to be expected.

Everything is still going really well. Sleep is still my only issue. I just wake up at odd times, and then can't get back to sleep. It is taking a bit of a toll on my training, as I train in the morning, and some days I just cant get going.

Also, having some trouble with my dick going floppy during sex. I am still super horny, and knocking it out at least twice a day, but every once in a while, right in the middle of the action, it turns into trying to beat her with a wet noodle. Any ideas?
 
Like me you would have heard "always run test higher than tren"

In fact the opposite is true. Apparently there are a limited number of receptors which test gets preferential binding to. This leaves tren circulating in the system causing most of the reputed sides such tren dick.

I flipped the dose, ran tren at 525 and test at 400 .... Boom! It's like I've been gargling cialias every morning mate.
 
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Hey sorry about the slow updates. This getting married shit is hectic.

I am not going to discuss where I think the source came from. Not a good idea.

Cycle is still going well, although my training has been pure shit. Bodyfat is still visibly decreasing, even with the halfassed diet I am on. Sorry this got shoddy guys, I am literally spread so thin you could see through me. I will try for a better post next week.
 
I was just going to post and find out where the hell you have been.

Now when you said you want post the source, were you referring to the marriage part being hectic:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:

Sorry, couldnt resist. Congrats again brother.
 
nothing helps with the tren itches except cold showers lol. i tried benedryl and it helped a little maybe but deff helped with sleep. also the topical itch creams didn't help
 
did you ever drop your test dose down to see if that helped with the tren sides? and if so what did you drop it to?
 
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when u itch or even pinch a little skin does it swell up or welt up like crazy? that's what happened to me and ya the itchyness is almost unbearable. everytime u itch it makes it itch even more and the cycle goes on lol. we may be a few of the people that get this cuz i don't see it talked about a lot
 
Ive got these little tiny bumps, almost like poison ivy, but not dense. Just a bump every few inches, and they itch like CRAZY. If I scratch them it just gets worse. I dont get welts, but if I scratch a spot without bumps I can actually make them appear. Weird as fuck, but like you said, the cycle goes on.

I backed my test down to the same amount as the tren, and that seems to have straightened me out. No more tren dick, although the itching hasnt changed at all.
 
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