Well what exactly is the point of this thread? The last time I checked this is the "Training" forum. Since when is it used to be sarcastic about what other members claim to lift. So what if he can bench that, so what if he can't. I'm sure as hell not going to loose sleep over it or worry about it. I know what I can lift and that's all that matters. What "Just a guy" can lift does not effect me or anyone in anyway. If he can throw that up - hats off. If he can't - oh well.