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Yetna

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So I did a 10 week cycle of test e and did the nolva clomid pct. I gained 20lbs, but I feel most of it was fat. I was eating 4000 cals per day and working out 5 times per week. When ever I put on fat it's very noticeable in my face stomach and pecs. I also recently did a 2 week clen cycle to try to cut. I think I lost like a pound. Is the away to cut this fat without losing any muscle I might have gained? I used to do cardio but it seems to deteriorate my strength. First pic is 5 months ago second pic is now.
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Post up your diet and training regiment, I'm guessing they're horrible. Some cardio won't affect your strength and it's good during a bulk to keep your metabolism high and cholesterol in check.
 
I would drink a gallon of milk a day and eat three meals it wasn't all clean.
day 1: Chest
bench 4 sets 6-8 reps 145
incline dbs 4 sets 6-8 reps 100
pec flys 4 sets ""130
cables 4 sets 6-8 reps60


day 2: back/bis
lat pulldowns80
rows 75
straight bar with weights60
hammer curls20


day 3: legs
squats150
leg press150
calf raises120
leg extension150


day 4: rest
day 5: tris / shoulders
shoulder lifts100
military press65
dips135
rope over head 80


day 6:
abs forearms
some more bis


day 7 :rest
 
You need help that's for sure
 
Damn dude that's a lot of milk. It looks like you need to start eating cleaner. My diet is far from perfect. I eat a cup of oats with water and a little sugar and a 30g protein shake before gym. After gym I have another 30g protein shake. A few hours later 2 serving of seeds. Through out the day ill have 3 chicken breasts and 4 serving of broccoli with Italian dressing. For dinner ill eat what ever the wife cooks. Good luck bro
 
Read the stickies in the diet and training sections. The best thing you can do is hire a nutritionist to set you up with a proper diet. A good trainer would help you out too.
 
Everywhere I read it said to eat as much possible on cycle. I tried to eat clean but when your putting down that many calories its hard to get it from just straight meat. I guess I will just have to eat cleaner.
 
Why does anyone use steroids. I would imagine to build muscle.
 
You're only benching 145lbs but repping 100's on the DB press?? WTF? I work out with 275lb on the bench for 6-8 reps per set and I am using the 100's on DB press. Not sure what I'm missing here.

And a gallon of milk a day? Jesus Christ man.

Taking in 4000 cals in 3 meals is probably your problem with the fat. You need to split up those meals so you can meet your macros but not be so stuffed after each meal that you can't walk. Smaller yet more frequent meals will help keep your metabolism up as well.

Please tell where those 4000 cals come from on the average day. Besides of course, the gallon of milk.
 
Yetna said:
Why does anyone use steroids. I would imagine to build muscle.
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From your orig pic it's obvious that you didn't have enough training and diet experience before your cycle. You should learn how to successfully put on some size naturally. Then when you take gear it will amplify your success instead of your failure.
 
please don't take this the wrong way, but your genetics suck bro.

before this have you ever worked out? gotdamn!

reminds me of a friend i train with. he was talking to this fuckstick in our gym who is all the time talking about doing a show. the guy's far from competition status, even amateur level. so my buddy (who's IFBB masters) got tired of his shit and told him straight up, the first thing you need to do if you wanna be a bodybuilder is kill both your parents! i almost shit my pants laughing
 
i swear to Jesus Christ, that is exactly what the asshole said to my buddy after he told him his genetics suck'd! no shit! i'm not trying to motivate you here bud, but maybe save you some misery. enjoy your life. peace
 
HIIT, adjust carbs and fat way down. You look like about 20%bf y really need to get it down before y try again.
 
Clean diet will get you no where if you are trying to grow. Your problem is running test solo. For does he even lift genetics like mine. You have to stay on tren and test for a long time. The only hormones you should use at your bodyfat is minimal test high tren high masteron. It may take months but it will work. Then when you are 10% you can add deca or eq. Your body will react differenr to tesf at 10% bf that is when you can raise it. But hight tren high masteron and hgh is what you need. A lot of all kinds of food too
 
Thanks, it's not hard for me to lose weight. Ill try the sprinting thing. I guess once I drop the fat ill eat cleaner. Great video by the luxx really helpful. It's hard to eat clean especially when your a restaurant manager and get unlimited free food. He'll it's even hard to get to the gym sometimes after 12 hour days of work. As for genetics I may not have the best for physical, but at least I'm mentally strong and come from a very wealthy family.
 
Yetna said:
Thanks, it's not hard for me to lose weight. Ill try the sprinting thing. I guess once I drop the fat ill eat cleaner. Great video by the luxx really helpful. It's hard to eat clean especially when your a restaurant manager and get unlimited free food. He'll it's even hard to get to the gym sometimes after 12 hour days of work. As for genetics I may not have the best for physical, but at least I'm mentally strong and come from a very wealthy family.
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You're full of nothing but excuses. I've worked hard physical labour jobs for 12-13 hours a day and would still go for a workout afterwards. Look at D-lats, he does concrete work all day and still competes and places in the top 5. If you want something you'll do what you have to to get it.
 
Dude I still go workout after work just saying its not easy.
 
Like somebody mention before stop the gear, get a better plan together on your training and nutrition, am working 14 hour days this week and eat all my meals cold, chicken, rice, potatoes, etc.... It's what it takes at this time. You mention you work in a restaurant for me that was the best time to grow I got to be indoors eat small meals all day, now my happy ass is out on the oilfield eating cold food, get your shit together and all will fall into place. Oh and quit felling sorry for your self.
 
S_walker said:
please don't take this the wrong way, but your genetics suck bro.

before this have you ever worked out? gotdamn!

reminds me of a friend i train with. he was talking to this fuckstick in our gym who is all the time talking about doing a show. the guy's far from competition status, even amateur level. so my buddy (who's IFBB masters) got tired of his shit and told him straight up, the first thing you need to do if you wanna be a bodybuilder is kill both your parents! i almost shit my pants laughing
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mab not....there are keys and ways around most genetics....he is doing everything wrong
 
ezjax said:
Clean diet will get you no where if you are trying to grow. Your problem is running test solo. For does he even lift genetics like mine. You have to stay on tren and test for a long time. The only hormones you should use at your bodyfat is minimal test high tren high masteron. It may take months but it will work. Then when you are 10% you can add deca or eq. Your body will react differenr to tesf at 10% bf that is when you can raise it. But hight tren high masteron and hgh is what you need. A lot of all kinds of food too
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:coffee: can't tell if serious
 
NoCode8511 said:
:coffee: can't tell if serious
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1000% serious. A "clean" diet has no relevance other than nutrienf deficiencies. Many articles about this. Its all marketing.

And what is clean anyway? If i take a chocolate bar and wash it with soap and water does that make it a clean food?
 
I've heard the sides from tren are horrible though. I have anxiety issues to begin with. I would not want to start having panic attacks.
 
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