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Shae said:Thank fuck my cat didn't do that kind of shit yet.![]()
Where the fuck did this come from?!?John H. said:Well a person can NOT put their "morals" on this... "Religion" which IS man-made has no place in this as what is happening is apparently something that is natural - a variation (variety which DOES EXIST naturally in ALL things INCLUDING the human!)...What is happening is completely natural obviously. While you or I "might" find this "strange" our viewpoint on "strange" is because of what we ARE TAUGHT by those "in authority" (so who the hell "taught THEM" what IS or IS NOT right, etc.?) but that "teaching" does NOT reflect what IS natural and right necessarily. Or UNDERSTOOD as to what IS natural and right.
The best way to look at this situation is for all people to become, if not already, OPEN-minded and very objective about all things and learn from all perspectives - consider ALL information from ALL sources ALL the time - because that IS how accurate honest truth is discovered and then ultimately understood. Remember it was thought (and some religious right people still think) the earth is flat!
I own my own farm and see things everyday which I have come to realize - honestly so - IS what IS natural. There IS variety in all things - variation. Have you ever seen a tree with two of the very same leaves? Why would anything then "fit" a "norm" as "established" by "those in authority" - UNDERSTANDING LIFE means recognizing honestly there is variation IN ALL THINGS! What many are taught is pure bullshit and has absolutely nothing to do with REALITY!
Take Care, John H.
I think that is a little too philisophical for this particular case!?John H. said:Well a person can NOT put their "morals" on this... "Religion" which IS man-made has no place in this as what is happening is apparently something that is natural - a variation (variety which DOES EXIST naturally in ALL things INCLUDING the human!)...What is happening is completely natural obviously. While you or I "might" find this "strange" our viewpoint on "strange" is because of what we ARE TAUGHT by those "in authority" (so who the hell "taught THEM" what IS or IS NOT right, etc.?) but that "teaching" does NOT reflect what IS natural and right necessarily. Or UNDERSTOOD as to what IS natural and right.
The best way to look at this situation is for all people to become, if not already, OPEN-minded and very objective about all things and learn from all perspectives - consider ALL information from ALL sources ALL the time - because that IS how accurate honest truth is discovered and then ultimately understood. Remember it was thought (and some religious right people still think) the earth is flat!
I own my own farm and see things everyday which I have come to realize - honestly so - IS what IS natural. There IS variety in all things - variation. Have you ever seen a tree with two of the very same leaves? Why would anything then "fit" a "norm" as "established" by "those in authority" - UNDERSTANDING LIFE means recognizing honestly there is variation IN ALL THINGS! What many are taught is pure bullshit and has absolutely nothing to do with REALITY!
Take Care, John H.
John H. said:Well a person can NOT put their "morals" on this... "Religion" which IS man-made has no place in this as what is happening is apparently something that is natural - a variation (variety which DOES EXIST naturally in ALL things INCLUDING the human!)...What is happening is completely natural obviously. While you or I "might" find this "strange" our viewpoint on "strange" is because of what we ARE TAUGHT by those "in authority" (so who the hell "taught THEM" what IS or IS NOT right, etc.?) but that "teaching" does NOT reflect what IS natural and right necessarily. Or UNDERSTOOD as to what IS natural and right.
The best way to look at this situation is for all people to become, if not already, OPEN-minded and very objective about all things and learn from all perspectives - consider ALL information from ALL sources ALL the time - because that IS how accurate honest truth is discovered and then ultimately understood. Remember it was thought (and some religious right people still think) the earth is flat!
I own my own farm and see things everyday which I have come to realize - honestly so - IS what IS natural. There IS variety in all things - variation. Have you ever seen a tree with two of the very same leaves? Why would anything then "fit" a "norm" as "established" by "those in authority" - UNDERSTANDING LIFE means recognizing honestly there is variation IN ALL THINGS! What many are taught is pure bullshit and has absolutely nothing to do with REALITY!
Take Care, John H.
haha, bonzai kittyVieope said:Tell me if those bastards don´t deserve to be in a jar.
WTF....LOL!!!John H. said:Well a person can NOT put their "morals" on this... "Religion" which IS man-made has no place in this as what is happening is apparently something that is natural - a variation (variety which DOES EXIST naturally in ALL things INCLUDING the human!)...What is happening is completely natural obviously. While you or I "might" find this "strange" our viewpoint on "strange" is because of what we ARE TAUGHT by those "in authority" (so who the hell "taught THEM" what IS or IS NOT right, etc.?) but that "teaching" does NOT reflect what IS natural and right necessarily. Or UNDERSTOOD as to what IS natural and right.
The best way to look at this situation is for all people to become, if not already, OPEN-minded and very objective about all things and learn from all perspectives - consider ALL information from ALL sources ALL the time - because that IS how accurate honest truth is discovered and then ultimately understood. Remember it was thought (and some religious right people still think) the earth is flat!
I own my own farm and see things everyday which I have come to realize - honestly so - IS what IS natural. There IS variety in all things - variation. Have you ever seen a tree with two of the very same leaves? Why would anything then "fit" a "norm" as "established" by "those in authority" - UNDERSTANDING LIFE means recognizing honestly there is variation IN ALL THINGS! What many are taught is pure bullshit and has absolutely nothing to do with REALITY!
Take Care, John H.
John H. said:Well a person can NOT put their "morals" on this... "Religion" which IS man-made has no place in this as what is happening is apparently something that is natural - a variation (variety which DOES EXIST naturally in ALL things INCLUDING the human!)...What is happening is completely natural obviously. While you or I "might" find this "strange" our viewpoint on "strange" is because of what we ARE TAUGHT by those "in authority" (so who the hell "taught THEM" what IS or IS NOT right, etc.?) but that "teaching" does NOT reflect what IS natural and right necessarily. Or UNDERSTOOD as to what IS natural and right.
The best way to look at this situation is for all people to become, if not already, OPEN-minded and very objective about all things and learn from all perspectives - consider ALL information from ALL sources ALL the time - because that IS how accurate honest truth is discovered and then ultimately understood. Remember it was thought (and some religious right people still think) the earth is flat!
I own my own farm and see things everyday which I have come to realize - honestly so - IS what IS natural. There IS variety in all things - variation. Have you ever seen a tree with two of the very same leaves? Why would anything then "fit" a "norm" as "established" by "those in authority" - UNDERSTANDING LIFE means recognizing honestly there is variation IN ALL THINGS! What many are taught is pure bullshit and has absolutely nothing to do with REALITY!
Take Care, John H.
John, buddy, I have always been straight up with you and have never made fun of you in my posts to you. We sometimes have had good discussions on beliefs, so I'll say this once and leave it at that:John H. said:Well a person can NOT put their "morals" on this... "Religion" which IS man-made has no place in this as what is happening is apparently something that is natural - a variation (variety which DOES EXIST naturally in ALL things INCLUDING the human!)...What is happening is completely natural obviously. While you or I "might" find this "strange" our viewpoint on "strange" is because of what we ARE TAUGHT by those "in authority" (so who the hell "taught THEM" what IS or IS NOT right, etc.?) but that "teaching" does NOT reflect what IS natural and right necessarily. Or UNDERSTOOD as to what IS natural and right.
The best way to look at this situation is for all people to become, if not already, OPEN-minded and very objective about all things and learn from all perspectives - consider ALL information from ALL sources ALL the time - because that IS how accurate honest truth is discovered and then ultimately understood. Remember it was thought (and some religious right people still think) the earth is flat!
I own my own farm and see things everyday which I have come to realize - honestly so - IS what IS natural. There IS variety in all things - variation. Have you ever seen a tree with two of the very same leaves? Why would anything then "fit" a "norm" as "established" by "those in authority" - UNDERSTANDING LIFE means recognizing honestly there is variation IN ALL THINGS! What many are taught is pure bullshit and has absolutely nothing to do with REALITY!
Take Care, John H.
John H. said:Well a person can NOT put their "morals" on this... "Religion" which IS man-made has no place in this as what is happening is apparently something that is natural - a variation (variety which DOES EXIST naturally in ALL things INCLUDING the human!)...What is happening is completely natural obviously. While you or I "might" find this "strange" our viewpoint on "strange" is because of what we ARE TAUGHT by those "in authority" (so who the hell "taught THEM" what IS or IS NOT right, etc.?) but that "teaching" does NOT reflect what IS natural and right necessarily. Or UNDERSTOOD as to what IS natural and right.
The best way to look at this situation is for all people to become, if not already, OPEN-minded and very objective about all things and learn from all perspectives - consider ALL information from ALL sources ALL the time - because that IS how accurate honest truth is discovered and then ultimately understood. Remember it was thought (and some religious right people still think) the earth is flat!
I own my own farm and see things everyday which I have come to realize - honestly so - IS what IS natural. There IS variety in all things - variation. Have you ever seen a tree with two of the very same leaves? Why would anything then "fit" a "norm" as "established" by "those in authority" - UNDERSTANDING LIFE means recognizing honestly there is variation IN ALL THINGS! What many are taught is pure bullshit and has absolutely nothing to do with REALITY!
Take Care, John H.
bio-chem said:that was a wierd ass video. John, seriously are you trying to say that masturbation is completly ok because you just saw a 1 min clip of a housecat pawing at its privates. wow thats scarry. truthfully i dont care if you wack off thats for you bro, but if you take a video like that to make yourself feel better about it. whoa thats kinda out there dont you think? Are you saying if its natural in the animal kingdom we should be able to do it too?
If it was "natural" John, then we wouldn't be watching a video of it on the internet. We'd see our own cats and pets doing it. It is UNnatural. While it may happen 1% of the time, it is not a normal occurance.John H. said:Hi Bio,
Re-read what I said carefully.
What this "weird ass video" proves is that this happens naturally so. Unless you saw for yourself this happening you would not believe it - would you?
As for masturbation, yes it IS natural - and right! The video has absolutely nothing to do with me feeling "better about it" - it just shows the naturalness of it for sure.
I hope this does not come as a shock to you but we ARE a part of the animal kingdom. We ARE a part of life and what happens in life NATURALLY SO.
Was I shocked to see this? NO. I see things all the time. I own my own farm and see a lot and nothing "disturbs me" because I have an open mind and see things for the reality and truthfulness and naturalness of all things.
Take Care, John H.
well, it is kind of a natural process for pets to be "indulging" in such "deviance"...lol Although, for most animal species, sex is strictly about instincts and procreation, not pleasure(thank god for being human!)....I have a feeling this little kitty simply had a wicked way of grooming itself!! But hey, how many times have I seen my "fixed" female dogs go at it with my kitchen table leg or sofa!!!rock4832 said:If it was "natural" John, then we wouldn't be watching a video of it on the internet. We'd see our own cats and pets doing it. It is UNnatural. While it may happen 1% of the time, it is not a normal occurance.
fantasma62 said:John, buddy, I have always been straight up with you and have never made fun of you in my posts to you. We sometimes have had good discussions on beliefs, so I'll say this once and leave it at that:
What the hell did this have to do with RELIGION? Do you have a crusade that we don't know about? Did a priest molest you? No, I am not joking, I am dead serious about this. How does religion and morals play a part here? They don't. You need to see this as nothing but a mood lightening post.... Do you seriously always bring up religion immediately along with open mindedness into every conversation that you participate in?. What are you pushing? You are really worse than the religious fanatics and you really do know how to take the fun out of these posts. This was a funny (and really sick Kerry) post. Look at this thread as Kerry's attempt to make us smile. She's very funny and always finds a way to make us smile, laugh....
As I said John, nothing against you, but I am tired of the same old thing.
Have a nice day...