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Wait till he get's on a roll this log will blow up!!!
Kleen
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Thanks!
Yeah, come on in guys get to know me. Ask questions make comments. Post libido checks but no nudes.... I need to be able to open at work for updating and responding.
I had my log Kleened upu can come back now
I will be there shortly good Sir and thanks!
Kleen
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Day 7
Well I am feeling the pain of yesterday workout beginning to surface. I noticed when I got out of bed this morning. It hasn't become overbearing and is less intense than expected, but tomorrow is when i should really be feeling that.
I got on the elliptical this morning and did moderate high intensity cardio burning 580 cals. Abdominals seem to be showing more every day. Yesterday I weighed myself in the morning after having the carb refeed Wednesday night and I was up 3.5 lbs. However some of this was glycogen from the refeed I am sure so I am not sure how accurate that is regarding muscle gain. I will do my official weigh in on Saturday and see what is still there after glycogen levels have leveled back off.
Sides are still not a problem. I do have a sense of euphoria and at the same time and very aggressive when frustrated. Putting that part in check though. As highly androgenic as this is that is to be expected.
Well I am feeling the pain of yesterday workout beginning to surface. I noticed when I got out of bed this morning. It hasn't become overbearing and is less intense than expected, but tomorrow is when i should really be feeling that.
I got on the elliptical this morning and did moderate high intensity cardio burning 580 cals. Abdominals seem to be showing more every day. Yesterday I weighed myself in the morning after having the carb refeed Wednesday night and I was up 3.5 lbs. However some of this was glycogen from the refeed I am sure so I am not sure how accurate that is regarding muscle gain. I will do my official weigh in on Saturday and see what is still there after glycogen levels have leveled back off.
Sides are still not a problem. I do have a sense of euphoria and at the same time and very aggressive when frustrated. Putting that part in check though. As highly androgenic as this is that is to be expected.
So you are finding that this is less harsh than SD because of the azine bond? That would be great news to get SD without the harsh side effects of SD.
Kleen
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Well I don't quite have any experience with Superdrol but If I were gonna get a back pump 10 sets of Romanians yesterday was gonna do it. Blood pressure is pretty stable, however I am taking all of my support supps too. This is a little weaker than Superdrol too but I have read that many people were gaining 15-20 lbs in a month of Dymethazine and that is pretty damn strong in my book. I won't have any need to move up to SDrol if that is what i can expect. I am also not over carbing it so not getting the associated BP spike that comes along with excess insulin. Nor adding any water weight. If I am still up by 3 lbs on Saturday then I will have already surpassed my initial expectations considering how tight my diet is currently.
Kleen
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Support Supps
CEL Cycle Assist and one called Blood Pressure Factors by Micheal's Naturopathic Programs. I am getting in about 9-12 grams of triple strength fish oil too. So far everything is great! I took measurements and weight today and will update it here with a once week review after my workout. I will say I am VERY impressed so far.
CEL Cycle Assist and one called Blood Pressure Factors by Micheal's Naturopathic Programs. I am getting in about 9-12 grams of triple strength fish oil too. So far everything is great! I took measurements and weight today and will update it here with a once week review after my workout. I will say I am VERY impressed so far.
Great to hear as SD can cause lethargy which causes some to never finish the cycle. The azine sounds like it really helps this to be alot safer choice than SD.
Kleen
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Day 8 Stats Update, One Week Review, & Today's workout.
First we will get to the meat of what this is about and get to some stats and review done then tell you about the workout.
I was very curious to see what I had achieved over the week and last night was a little like Christmas Eve. I knew there was a present under the tree, I had some guesses as to what it was going to be when I ???unwrapped it??? by weighing in and taking measurements. As you know my goal is only lean mass no fat gain so I wasn't expecting too much this week considering I was leaning up noticeably I thought I may have been recomping quickly. Yesterday I put on a t-shirt I had worn last week and it seemed as if it had been washed in hot water. I still held out until this morning knowing full well I had gotten bigger. Well I step on the scale pretty depleted just like the first weigh in and I am up over 4 lbs. I was 194.5! Now here is the fun part, my waist measurement came DOWN, not a bunch but that means I am also losing fat meaning more than 4.5 lbs of muscle added that is just what is showing on the scale. I already look completely different. I will post up a shot on the 1st.
Strength
I can not really comment here, just starting this run at GVT I don't have a comparison point yet.
Aggression
The aggression is high on this however perfect for the weight room. I have had a pretty stressful week and haven't come unhinged so not over the top.
Libido
I have to say right now it is extremely high.
Sides
So far I have been very lucky and haven't experience much of anything. No back pumps taking taurine to avoid them on training days. Blood pressure is good. I have notced a little bit of lethargy after my carb meals post workout but when my body switches back to the fats it goes away quickly. Maybe a 15 minute period about 1 hour after the bigger carb meals, but I have some fats and it goes away.
Recovery
I was really expecting to be ridiculously sore on legs and I was only a little bit sore and today it is almost gone I have to flex my quads to feel what is left of the soreness normally this program would have me limping.
Cut Bulking...
I have to make a new section because I can't really say how this is for cutting while gaining 4.5 lbs in a week and not put bulking in there somewhere because I can't even call it a recomp gaining that much lean and very dry gains as well. I would give this bad boy 5 stars in this new area I am delving into. I am alternating higher and lower caloric intakes and still not going over 2800 calories a day and getting that out of it. My muscles stay full even with the lower carbs so it is definitely effecting the glut 4 reaction in the muscle independently of carbs. Which is good to know. I think the 20mg is a great strength if I can expect gains to be similar the rest of the run I will far surpass what I expected to.
Stats
Weight 190 > Wk1 194.5 up 4.5 lbs and much leaner.
Thigh 24.5 > Wk1 24 15/16 up almost ½ inch
Waist just above navel ??? 33 > Wk1 32 ¾ down ¼ inch
Arms 15 relaxed, 16 5/8 flexed > Wk1 15 ¼ up 1/4, flexed 16 15/16 up about 3/8 inch
Chest 45 7/8 > Wk1 46 3/8 up ½ inch
I have to say I am very impressed with these numbers! I wasn't expecting so much out of it n the first week with my focus on lean dry gains I thought it may get me 2-3 lbs of weight and some fat loss but this is a very nice surprise.
Okay now for my workout. As before I will only list the sets I missed 10 reps on and how many reps since everything else is constant.
Shoulders done as straight sets, 60 seconds rest.
Hammer Strength Shoulder Press ??? 65 lbs,
Set 6 ??? 8, Set 7 ??? 7, Set 8 ??? 6,
Man, I was really digging from set 4 on, I will probably go to 70 next week anyway to test strength increases.
DB Upright Rows ??? 25 lbs
4 sets of 10 last two sets hard to complete but will go up next week or change exercises this one tweaked shoulder a bit.
Arms done alternating exercises 60 seconds rest between each exercise.
DB Incline Curls 25 Lbs then 20 lbs starting 3rd set
Set 6 ??? 8, Set 7 ??? 8, Set 8 ??? 7
DB Overhead Triceps Extension ??? 65lbs
Set 3 ??? 9, Set 4 ??? 9, Set 5 ??? 7, Set 6 & 7 ??? 6, Set 8 ??? 4 + 22 push ups.
I was so ridiculously pumped by the end of this workout I could barely get my shirt off. Was awesome and very intense which is what I love.
First we will get to the meat of what this is about and get to some stats and review done then tell you about the workout.
I was very curious to see what I had achieved over the week and last night was a little like Christmas Eve. I knew there was a present under the tree, I had some guesses as to what it was going to be when I ???unwrapped it??? by weighing in and taking measurements. As you know my goal is only lean mass no fat gain so I wasn't expecting too much this week considering I was leaning up noticeably I thought I may have been recomping quickly. Yesterday I put on a t-shirt I had worn last week and it seemed as if it had been washed in hot water. I still held out until this morning knowing full well I had gotten bigger. Well I step on the scale pretty depleted just like the first weigh in and I am up over 4 lbs. I was 194.5! Now here is the fun part, my waist measurement came DOWN, not a bunch but that means I am also losing fat meaning more than 4.5 lbs of muscle added that is just what is showing on the scale. I already look completely different. I will post up a shot on the 1st.
Strength
I can not really comment here, just starting this run at GVT I don't have a comparison point yet.
Aggression
The aggression is high on this however perfect for the weight room. I have had a pretty stressful week and haven't come unhinged so not over the top.
Libido
I have to say right now it is extremely high.
Sides
So far I have been very lucky and haven't experience much of anything. No back pumps taking taurine to avoid them on training days. Blood pressure is good. I have notced a little bit of lethargy after my carb meals post workout but when my body switches back to the fats it goes away quickly. Maybe a 15 minute period about 1 hour after the bigger carb meals, but I have some fats and it goes away.
Recovery
I was really expecting to be ridiculously sore on legs and I was only a little bit sore and today it is almost gone I have to flex my quads to feel what is left of the soreness normally this program would have me limping.
Cut Bulking...
I have to make a new section because I can't really say how this is for cutting while gaining 4.5 lbs in a week and not put bulking in there somewhere because I can't even call it a recomp gaining that much lean and very dry gains as well. I would give this bad boy 5 stars in this new area I am delving into. I am alternating higher and lower caloric intakes and still not going over 2800 calories a day and getting that out of it. My muscles stay full even with the lower carbs so it is definitely effecting the glut 4 reaction in the muscle independently of carbs. Which is good to know. I think the 20mg is a great strength if I can expect gains to be similar the rest of the run I will far surpass what I expected to.
Stats
Weight 190 > Wk1 194.5 up 4.5 lbs and much leaner.
Thigh 24.5 > Wk1 24 15/16 up almost ½ inch
Waist just above navel ??? 33 > Wk1 32 ¾ down ¼ inch
Arms 15 relaxed, 16 5/8 flexed > Wk1 15 ¼ up 1/4, flexed 16 15/16 up about 3/8 inch
Chest 45 7/8 > Wk1 46 3/8 up ½ inch
I have to say I am very impressed with these numbers! I wasn't expecting so much out of it n the first week with my focus on lean dry gains I thought it may get me 2-3 lbs of weight and some fat loss but this is a very nice surprise.
Okay now for my workout. As before I will only list the sets I missed 10 reps on and how many reps since everything else is constant.
Shoulders done as straight sets, 60 seconds rest.
Hammer Strength Shoulder Press ??? 65 lbs,
Set 6 ??? 8, Set 7 ??? 7, Set 8 ??? 6,
Man, I was really digging from set 4 on, I will probably go to 70 next week anyway to test strength increases.
DB Upright Rows ??? 25 lbs
4 sets of 10 last two sets hard to complete but will go up next week or change exercises this one tweaked shoulder a bit.
Arms done alternating exercises 60 seconds rest between each exercise.
DB Incline Curls 25 Lbs then 20 lbs starting 3rd set
Set 6 ??? 8, Set 7 ??? 8, Set 8 ??? 7
DB Overhead Triceps Extension ??? 65lbs
Set 3 ??? 9, Set 4 ??? 9, Set 5 ??? 7, Set 6 & 7 ??? 6, Set 8 ??? 4 + 22 push ups.
I was so ridiculously pumped by the end of this workout I could barely get my shirt off. Was awesome and very intense which is what I love.
awesome results, thank you for the detailed feedback!
hopefully people will start reading these logs and realize that Super-DMZ Rx is the real deal.
Super-DMZ Rx??? Pro-Hormone (Superdrol Dymethazine)
hopefully people will start reading these logs and realize that Super-DMZ Rx is the real deal.
Super-DMZ Rx??? Pro-Hormone (Superdrol Dymethazine)
awesome results, thank you for the detailed feedback!
hopefully people will start reading these logs and realize that Super-DMZ Rx is the real deal.
Super-DMZ Rx??? Pro-Hormone (Superdrol Dymethazine)
I have seen alot of Kleen's log if this is working for him then there is no doubt in my mind that it is the real deal!!!
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Kleen
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Day 11 Chest and Back
Man I posted up in here the other day and don't see it. Oh well sorry for the unintentional lack of updates, and thanks for the positive comments and new subscriptions. Yesterday I did cardio and returned to my lower carb diet.
I am going to be playing with carb ups and see what I can do to keep on gaining LBM while leaning up.
Today was Chest and Back and man was it a great workout. Once again tempo is 4-0-2 Stes are A1 rest 45-60 seconds, A2 rest 45-60 seconds, same with the B1 and B2.
A1 - Chest - HS Decline Press - 70 lbs weight
10,10,10,10,10,9,9,8,9,8
A2 - Back - HS Rows Neutral Grip - 60 lbs
10,10,10,10,9,9,8,9,8,7
B1 - Chest - Incline DB Flyes 30 lbs
10,10,7
B2 - Back - DB Pullovers 50 Lbs
10,10,8
Man these slow reps kick the crap out of you. As you can tell I started failing around the 5th and 6th set on the main exercises. I have decided I am shifting my leg day to follow today and then will move on to arms and shoulders on Thursday then on Saturday go heavy on Weighted Chins, Chest Press, Hack Squats, and Dead lifts on a 3-6x6 while eating the higher carb consumption. At which point I will start over on Monday to space things out better.
Monday - Chest/Back
Tuesday - Quads & Hammies
Thursday - Arms & Shoulders
Saturday Power Training.
I really think I am close to 200 lbs right now even though I have been low carb since yesterday. I am seeing some of the water come off but my size seems to really be sticking around from this weekend. I am going to go ahead and do a mid week weigh in tomorrow to see where I am while not chock full of carbs. I really feel like I have made more progress already and want to see exactly where I am which will give you all more of a time line for gains as well. I will also post up a picture of me tomorrow either from earlier today or one taken in the morning tomorrow depending on time availability.
Man I posted up in here the other day and don't see it. Oh well sorry for the unintentional lack of updates, and thanks for the positive comments and new subscriptions. Yesterday I did cardio and returned to my lower carb diet.
I am going to be playing with carb ups and see what I can do to keep on gaining LBM while leaning up.
Today was Chest and Back and man was it a great workout. Once again tempo is 4-0-2 Stes are A1 rest 45-60 seconds, A2 rest 45-60 seconds, same with the B1 and B2.
A1 - Chest - HS Decline Press - 70 lbs weight
10,10,10,10,10,9,9,8,9,8
A2 - Back - HS Rows Neutral Grip - 60 lbs
10,10,10,10,9,9,8,9,8,7
B1 - Chest - Incline DB Flyes 30 lbs
10,10,7
B2 - Back - DB Pullovers 50 Lbs
10,10,8
Man these slow reps kick the crap out of you. As you can tell I started failing around the 5th and 6th set on the main exercises. I have decided I am shifting my leg day to follow today and then will move on to arms and shoulders on Thursday then on Saturday go heavy on Weighted Chins, Chest Press, Hack Squats, and Dead lifts on a 3-6x6 while eating the higher carb consumption. At which point I will start over on Monday to space things out better.
Monday - Chest/Back
Tuesday - Quads & Hammies
Thursday - Arms & Shoulders
Saturday Power Training.
I really think I am close to 200 lbs right now even though I have been low carb since yesterday. I am seeing some of the water come off but my size seems to really be sticking around from this weekend. I am going to go ahead and do a mid week weigh in tomorrow to see where I am while not chock full of carbs. I really feel like I have made more progress already and want to see exactly where I am which will give you all more of a time line for gains as well. I will also post up a picture of me tomorrow either from earlier today or one taken in the morning tomorrow depending on time availability.
Kleen
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I have been on low carb for the whole time so far except for the weekend refeed. Now I am adjusting up to about 50-100 grams post lift then the major carb up over the weekend. I have not had lethargy with this method, I beleive because i am still burning fats for energy preferentially and only tapping into the carbs for the actual intense workouts which is how I run typically. I have increase the carbs more by going up to 100 instead of 50 post workout. I am getting next to nothing on cardio only days, and will take in only 50 on arms and shoulder day since such small muscle groups being worked. The lower insulin levels will also help keep cholesterol and BP down.
Kleen
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Only 1.5 scoops of Jack3d pre-workout or cardio. Nothing else. Saving that other stuff for my PCT when my body slows down.
Kleen
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Day 12 Mid Week Mega Update!
Well this would normally be where I just list my workout and give a few highlights but as I mentioned yesterday I have really been noticing some extra size while getting leaner. I was just to curious to wait for the weekend since I am just looking large. Well I am happy I did. I also took some pictures of me this morning, flat, no pump just after morning pee. You will see below that I definitely made some improvements recently. If anyone has any doubt if Super-DMZ is well anything less than SUPER I think these changes will shock you for just 12 days.
Starting weight - 190, weight as of this morning 200 lbs!!!!!!!!
Now your probably thinking 10 lbs, must be lots of water or glycogen. Remember I am not a glycogen hound. I carb up on weekends and lower carbs substantially on week days. After low carbs from lunch on Sunday all the way up to this morning I should have been depleted pretty well. So this was not glycogen and water gain as far as i can tell. I notice the water coming off but the size just stayed. I am going to list some other differences since today was the second leg workout on the DMZ we can compare some weights and reps.
Last Thursday Leg Day -
Leg Press 320 x 94 reps, 30080 lbs volume
Romanian DL - 135x90 12150 lbs volume
Leg Ext - 75x11>55x6>35x2
Leg Curl 70x10>50x19>30x8
Today 9-1-10 Leg Day
Leg Press 340x100, 34000 lbs volume up 3920 lbs total and 20 lbs of weight and I did not fail on any sets talk about a strength increase!!! Next week I will move up another 20 lbs heavier maybe even 30 lbs.
Romanian Dead lifts 145x50 = 7250 up 10 lbs changed to leg curls for set 6 on due to beginning of back pump although I think it was more just a twinge. I have gotten this before doing this program with a Romanian DL but I want to do as many as possible before shifting anyway.
Leg Curls 85x10, 95x40 = 4650 lbs volume
Leg Ext 95x29=2755 lbs volume - As you can see I had a lot more in reserve for these than last time around too.
Donkey Calve raises - 310x30 = 9300 lbs volume - Just figured I would work on em since my quads seem to be exploding right now.
Strength is definitely up, most other sides have completely diminished. I have noticed I am a little dryer in the stool department, even with as much fiber as I get in my diet. This could be from this or the support supps drawing water away from my intestines. BP is just fine, no issues there. I really think Iron Labs is onto something lowering the dose to 10 mg a cap. Do I plan to increase my dose? No, why would I? I feel great and have added 10 lbs in 12 days while getting noticeably leaner. I see no reason at all to increase the dose.
Here is a side by side comparison of the changes made this run so far. Hard to believe looking at the pics I gained 10 lbs and got that much leaner.
View attachment 28002
Well this would normally be where I just list my workout and give a few highlights but as I mentioned yesterday I have really been noticing some extra size while getting leaner. I was just to curious to wait for the weekend since I am just looking large. Well I am happy I did. I also took some pictures of me this morning, flat, no pump just after morning pee. You will see below that I definitely made some improvements recently. If anyone has any doubt if Super-DMZ is well anything less than SUPER I think these changes will shock you for just 12 days.
Starting weight - 190, weight as of this morning 200 lbs!!!!!!!!
Now your probably thinking 10 lbs, must be lots of water or glycogen. Remember I am not a glycogen hound. I carb up on weekends and lower carbs substantially on week days. After low carbs from lunch on Sunday all the way up to this morning I should have been depleted pretty well. So this was not glycogen and water gain as far as i can tell. I notice the water coming off but the size just stayed. I am going to list some other differences since today was the second leg workout on the DMZ we can compare some weights and reps.
Last Thursday Leg Day -
Leg Press 320 x 94 reps, 30080 lbs volume
Romanian DL - 135x90 12150 lbs volume
Leg Ext - 75x11>55x6>35x2
Leg Curl 70x10>50x19>30x8
Today 9-1-10 Leg Day
Leg Press 340x100, 34000 lbs volume up 3920 lbs total and 20 lbs of weight and I did not fail on any sets talk about a strength increase!!! Next week I will move up another 20 lbs heavier maybe even 30 lbs.
Romanian Dead lifts 145x50 = 7250 up 10 lbs changed to leg curls for set 6 on due to beginning of back pump although I think it was more just a twinge. I have gotten this before doing this program with a Romanian DL but I want to do as many as possible before shifting anyway.
Leg Curls 85x10, 95x40 = 4650 lbs volume
Leg Ext 95x29=2755 lbs volume - As you can see I had a lot more in reserve for these than last time around too.
Donkey Calve raises - 310x30 = 9300 lbs volume - Just figured I would work on em since my quads seem to be exploding right now.
Strength is definitely up, most other sides have completely diminished. I have noticed I am a little dryer in the stool department, even with as much fiber as I get in my diet. This could be from this or the support supps drawing water away from my intestines. BP is just fine, no issues there. I really think Iron Labs is onto something lowering the dose to 10 mg a cap. Do I plan to increase my dose? No, why would I? I feel great and have added 10 lbs in 12 days while getting noticeably leaner. I see no reason at all to increase the dose.
Here is a side by side comparison of the changes made this run so far. Hard to believe looking at the pics I gained 10 lbs and got that much leaner.
View attachment 28002
Kleen
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Definitely leaned out
and + 10lbs pretty impressive
Yeah I am thinking if I can keep my fat at or even drop just a little and end up 205 but leaner I will be ecstatic. ENd goal is somewhere round 6-7% at 200 lbs. I think I have that in the bag at this point. However I am thinking what I may lose in PCT. I have clomid and nolva ready to go so I am thinking it shouldn't be too bad. Although I will say my balls have gotten smaller already.
Man fucking 10 lbs!!!! Look at that man, I just can't believe it, I gained 10 lbs and look that much leaner. SUPER DMZ!!!! FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe part of the gains were from the fu manchu shadow you got going on 
Biceps look bigger, back looks wider and your stomach looks more narrow. How about legs?
You're not running BCAA's before cardio? You might want to add NAC, I've had good results from it (In terms of overall health, not as a workout boost). My balls haven't gotten smaller but they ain't dropped in a while...
Biceps look bigger, back looks wider and your stomach looks more narrow. How about legs? You're not running BCAA's before cardio? You might want to add NAC, I've had good results from it (In terms of overall health, not as a workout boost). My balls haven't gotten smaller but they ain't dropped in a while...
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Kleen
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Day 13 Shoulder and Arms
Wow, made it through another day! This mornings workout was a hard one. Since I moved things up I had one less day of rest in this rotation and my shoulders and arms weren???t quite fully recovered from chest and back on Tuesday however I went up in weight on everything and even where I did not match total reps I did beat my numbers in total volume. SInce the workout is not overly strength oriented and is more volume related I will continue to report on it as I did yesterday comparing total reps and volume from this week and last. Even with the lack of rest I improved on everything so I am pretty happy. I am looking good as you saw yesterday and have probably dried up just a little more since those pics were taken.
HS Shoulder Press - Wk1 130x71=9230, Wk2 140x68=9520 up 290 lbs volume.
DB Upright Rows Wk1 25x40=1000, Wk2 30x40=1200 up 200 lbs volume
DB Incline Curls Wk1 20x73=1460, Wk2 22.5x74=1665 up 205 lbs volume
DB Overhead Triceps Ext Wk1 65x61=3695, Wk2 70x67=4690 up 995 lbs volume
Sides are still fine, no BP issues, no back pumps so far. I would say everything is going very well.
As far as BCAA's I take them before I workout or do moderate - high intensity cardio. If just a walk in the middle of the day no I don't take them. The Cycle Assist I am taking has a healthy dose of NAC in it, with lots of other goodies. I do think that shadow of a fu man chu might be responsible for 1/3 of my gains!
Oh yeah, libido check!
Wow, made it through another day! This mornings workout was a hard one. Since I moved things up I had one less day of rest in this rotation and my shoulders and arms weren???t quite fully recovered from chest and back on Tuesday however I went up in weight on everything and even where I did not match total reps I did beat my numbers in total volume. SInce the workout is not overly strength oriented and is more volume related I will continue to report on it as I did yesterday comparing total reps and volume from this week and last. Even with the lack of rest I improved on everything so I am pretty happy. I am looking good as you saw yesterday and have probably dried up just a little more since those pics were taken.
HS Shoulder Press - Wk1 130x71=9230, Wk2 140x68=9520 up 290 lbs volume.
DB Upright Rows Wk1 25x40=1000, Wk2 30x40=1200 up 200 lbs volume
DB Incline Curls Wk1 20x73=1460, Wk2 22.5x74=1665 up 205 lbs volume
DB Overhead Triceps Ext Wk1 65x61=3695, Wk2 70x67=4690 up 995 lbs volume
Sides are still fine, no BP issues, no back pumps so far. I would say everything is going very well.
Yeah loving it so far.
My legs are probably gaining more muscle than other areas. I was up almost a 1/2 inch on legs at the 1 week mark. My legs are the leanest and most striated part of my body too. I will post some pics of them this weekend.Maybe part of the gains were from the fu manchu shadow you got going on
You're not running BCAA's before cardio? You might want to add NAC, I've had good results from it (In terms of overall health, not as a workout boost). My balls haven't gotten smaller but they ain't dropped in a while...
As far as BCAA's I take them before I workout or do moderate - high intensity cardio. If just a walk in the middle of the day no I don't take them. The Cycle Assist I am taking has a healthy dose of NAC in it, with lots of other goodies. I do think that shadow of a fu man chu might be responsible for 1/3 of my gains!
Considered it being slaughtered!
Oh yeah, libido check!
Good stuff Kleen and thanks my libido is now fully in check.
