Legpress or Squat?

[gopro]

you can vary your foot placment on the platform in such a way that makes the leg press a very quad dominant exercise, much like the hack squat...

Tis true.

 

[aztecwolf]

people are idiots...

, LAM has the understatement of the year

 

[SquatBenchDead]

Squat is easily the best choice here.

I can't believe a coach would waste precious training time on an exercise like the leg press when you have the best overall leg and posterior developer.

 

[gopro]

Squat is easily the best choice here.

I can't believe a coach would waste precious training time on an exercise like the leg press when you have the best overall leg and posterior developer.

Best for sports, but not necessarily the best for muscular hypertrophy of the quads.

 

[Arnold]

I have used both squats an leg press for years, in my old age I am now doing more leg press than squats.

 

[SquatBenchDead]

We're talking about a college football coach here, not a BBing coach. For any sport players need to be efficient with their gym time. Squat is the exercise of choice.

I guess if we're talking about just "leg development", then legpress would be better. I just hate to think they might be using them in place of squats.

 

[Johnnny]

SquatBenchDead

We're talking about a college football coach here, not a BBing coach. For any sport players need to be efficient with their gym time. Squat is the exercise of choice.

I guess if we're talking about just "leg development", then legpress would be better. I just hate to think they might be using them in place of squats.

I agree as having played football myself squats were so important. They never took the place of leg press or even hack squats. Sometimes if we were strapped for time, we'd just do several sets of squats & that was enough. But we usually had to do either hack squats or leg press.

Robert DiMaggio

I have used both squats an leg press for years, in my old age I am now doing more leg press than squats.

How come you don't do squats as much now? Did you have an injury problem?

I'm just curious.

 

[gopro]

We're talking about a college football coach here, not a BBing coach. For any sport players need to be efficient with their gym time. Squat is the exercise of choice.

I guess if we're talking about just "leg development", then legpress would be better. I just hate to think they might be using them in place of squats.

Well, yes, you were going back to the original question...and I couldn't agree more...the squat is a better exercise than the leg press for sport related applications. Still, even for sports, the leg press can be valuable at times as a secondary exercise.

 

[Saturday Fever]

There's a misconception going on here, I think.

Yes, a bigger muscle is a stronger muscle. However, no, for sports applications you shouldn't be squatting like a bodybuilder and hence you'd see no carryover between leg presses and squats. So while the leg press may be better for creating larger quads, which would produce stronger quads, proper squatting for strength and explosion would use the posterior, as it applies to most sports. Olympic lifting being one quick exception I can think of off the top of my head.

 

[gopro]

There's a misconception going on here, I think.

Yes, a bigger muscle is a stronger muscle. However, no, for sports applications you shouldn't be squatting like a bodybuilder and hence you'd see no carryover between leg presses and squats. So while the leg press may be better for creating larger quads, which would produce stronger quads, proper squatting for strength and explosion would use the posterior, as it applies to most sports. Olympic lifting being one quick exception I can think of off the top of my head.

Agree and disagree. While you would be better off NOT squatting like a bodybuilder for sports application, still, even a "bodybuilder" squat is better for sports training than the leg press, and still useful. You cannot 100% isolate the quads no matter how you squat and will engage the posterior amongst other muscle groups even when squatting like a bber. Some guys actually hold dual goals of building their physiques as well as improving sports performance.

 

[Arnold]

How come you don't do squats as much now? Did you have an injury problem?

I'm just curious.

I cannot really answer that cause I will end up contradicting myself!

Basically my ass is big enough, and I am seeing a chiropractor now trying to get my spine straightened out and it's just not conducive for me to be doing heavy squats.

I may do them more again in the future.

 

[bigtam]

leg press because of a knee problems squats tent to hurt and i cheat and strain when doing them

 

[GFR]

I've heard a lot of bullshit in my day, but this is just golden.

Why is that??? I agree with him for the most part.

 

[The13ig13adWolf]

Why is that??? I agree with him for the most part.

you realize that you dug this up from 2004?

 

[GFR]

you realize that you dug this up from 2004?

It is a poll, and I did not dig it up, when a person votes on a poll it pulls it back up to the top of the new posts list.

 

[Arnold]

lol

I think people do this because of the "similar threads" feature at the bottom of thread pages.

 

[The13ig13adWolf]

It is a poll, and I did not dig it up, when a person votes on a poll it pulls it back up to the top of the new posts list.

fair enough. as you were...

 

[Arnold]

ahhhh...so someone else "dug it up" by voting.

 

[GFR]

Yes, but it's still an interesting topic and I'm sure it's not the last thread that will be made about this.

 

[SuperFlex]

Squat is the single greatest exercise in existence...

 

[Arnold]

Squat is the single greatest exercise in existence...

until you have a herniated disc.

 

[Squaggleboggin]

until you have a herniated disc.

Or until you try weightlifting, namely the C&J.

 

[SuperFlex]

until you have a herniated disc.

Is that what happened to you?

 

[Arnold]

Is that what happened to you?

Yes, my S1/L5 disc is herniated, it was pretty bad a month ago, getting better now...I am not saying squats caused it, but I will never squat again.

 

[Seanp156]

Squats for sure... I don't even really bother with legpress lately.

 

[SuperFlex]

Yes, my S1/L5 disc is herniated, it was pretty bad a month ago, getting better now...I am not saying squats caused it, but I will never squat again.

That sucks man... Sorry to hear that. I saw where you were recovering but missed why you were hurt. Hope you have a full recovery. I'm sure you will...

 

[The Monkey Man]

Some colleges, so he tells me, are against those exercises, claiming they are "to dangerous". So they train their players like bodybuilders. Hypertrophy does shit for you on the field though. Strength and explosivness are were it is at. SQUAT SQUAT SQUAT!

This being said...

The Detroit Lions went to Bodybuilding type training equipment (Nautilus, Etc) at the begining of the "Matt Millan" era...

And look at the record of Injury's and losses...

Working an individual muscle will not help you much overall, out on the field

 

[bulldogge]

squats get my vote

 

[Super Hulk]

isnt all that weight too much for your back muscles ?
400-500 pounds and any forward or back movement will pull a muscle/injure your back

 

[DOMS]

isnt all that weight too much for your back muscles ?
400-500 pounds and any forward or back movement will pull a muscle/injure your back

One would hope that, by the time you reached that level, that you'd know proper form. You can damage your back with nothing more than an empty bar if you form is bad enough.

Genetics and simple bad luck are also key factors.