Long-term size gains with dbol

[Jess999]

If you were doing a 10-week cycle of test e, would your long-term size gains be greater if you also ran oral dbol for the first few weeks of the cycle? Or is dbol at the beginning of the cycle only so that you can experience some immediate growth while you wait for the test to kick in?

So really, are there any long-term advantages to kick-starting a test cycle with dbol?

 

[minimal]

Too many variables... your diet, training, genetic limit, cycle experience, PCT and so on.

Theoretically, yeah you would have more gains because you're gonna be running with higher test quicker... but how much of it you keep is another story. I heard of people doing short dbol only cycles and keeping good amount of gains though.

 

[Jess999]

I see. Yeah, I'm just pondering a second cycle down the road, as now I'm just running test. My ultimate goals are long term though, so just wondering how viable this front-loading approach is, of it's worthwhile.

I've read so much about how the bulk of dbol gains are water weight, so I was curious about the drug's long-term effect on muscle growth and retention.

 

[GMO]

I see. Yeah, I'm just pondering a second cycle down the road, as now I'm just running test. My ultimate goals are long term though, so just wondering how viable this front-loading approach is, of it's worthwhile.

I've read so much about how the bulk of dbol gains are water weight, so I was curious about the drug's long-term effect on muscle growth and retention.

D-bol is one of the best AAS out there mg per mg. If you take an AI on cycle, which you ALWAYS should, your water weight gain will be minimal. D-bol increases protein synthesis, thus resulting in muscle gain.

It is a good kick start because you will begin to gain strength within the first week and some muscle fullness and weight during weeks 2-3. Then your Test will kick in and the party will really get started. I would recommend to run it longer thatn 4 weeks...more like 6, so you can enjoy some of the synergistic effects with the test.

That being said, I also like to add D-bol in to my cycles around week 8 to combat the myostatin build-up and get some synergy with the test. That's what I am doing now, and it is ridiculous...

Also, there are NOTHING like d-bol pumps...NOTHING!

 

[Digitalash]

Kickstarted this cycle with dbol and I'd have to agree the pumps were absurd, strength gain was definitely better than with just test. Unfortunately I seemed to lose a good bit of that strength after coming off the dbol, and a little bit of the size (might have just been water - pumps). I'm sure I'm better off than I would've been without it, but I wish I had enough to run some more now that I'm towards the end.

 

[minimal]

That being said, I also like to add D-bol in to my cycles around week 8 to combat the myostatin build-up and get some synergy with the test. That's what I am doing now, and it is ridiculous...

Also, there are NOTHING like d-bol pumps...NOTHING!

so are you ending the cycle with Dbol? If so, you start PCT the day after your last dbol dose?

 

[GMO]

so are you ending the cycle with Dbol? If so, you start PCT the day after your last dbol dose?

No, I am running a rather long cycle...the d-bol is my mid-cycle oral. I am actually finishing with Winstrol.