Looking to start second cycle, thoughts?

[skinnyguy180]

If you don't mind me asking what was your first cycle?

I'm not that expierenced. But im with gmo and others above you might want to consider different compounds other than tren a for a second cycle. That stuff is pretty harsh. But if your set on it I hope everything goes good.

And I'm sure some ones mentioned it but you don't need to run nolva and aromasin. Aromasin attacks the estrogen production and nolva prevents gyno in attaching its self to mainly receptors in breast tissue. Clomid is what you need with aromasin it helps restart your htpa to get test production going again.

 

[LoveToLiftBig]

Ok thanks for the reply guys, anyone have a solution to the tren being 100ml and running it at 300mg per week yet still pinning eod and mixing it with the prop, using say 3/4 ml and 1ml prop work? I know it probably won't be exactly 300 but would it still suffice?

Skinny guy my first cycle was test e 500mg per week for 11/12 weeks (can't remember) and dbol for the first 30 days at 50mg per day.

Ok since I'm aloud say lab names can anyone give any feedback on the gp tren and gp prop? I used gp test e in my first cycle and it worked. Obviously I don't have experience to compare it but I got the gains I wanted.

 

[GarlicChicken]

Ok thanks for the reply guys, anyone have a solution to the tren being 100ml and running it at 300mg per week yet still pinning eod and mixing it with the prop, using say 3/4 ml and 1ml prop work? I know it probably won't be exactly 300 but would it still suffice?

Skinny guy my first cycle was test e 500mg per week for 11/12 weeks (can't remember) and dbol for the first 30 days at 50mg per day.

Ok since I'm aloud say lab names can anyone give any feedback on the gp tren and gp prop? I used gp test e in my first cycle and it worked. Obviously I don't have experience to compare it but I got the gains I wanted.

That would be fine. Start there and go up if you feel like it. If sides are too bad try ed pinning at night. It really helps for me. But remember about going up with tren...guys won't have any sides and then bump up 100/week and bam! High BP, anxiety, aggression all hit at once. Just be careful, especially since you're fairly new and its your first time with tren.

As far as gp, I've never used. Sorry man. I've heard some say they're awesome, some say its underdosed. It's just like anywhere else. They're all ugls and they probably have a few bad batches floating around. But that's part of the game lol.

 

[LoveToLiftBig]

That would be fine. Start there and go up if you feel like it. If sides are too bad try ed pinning at night. It really helps for me. But remember about going up with tren...guys won't have any sides and then bump up 100/week and bam! High BP, anxiety, aggression all hit at once. Just be careful, especially since you're fairly new and its your first time with tren.

As far as gp, I've never used. Sorry man. I've heard some say they're awesome, some say its underdosed. It's just like anywhere else. They're all ugls and they probably have a few bad batches floating around. But that's part of the game lol.

Ok sweet. I'll just pin 3/4 to start out with that should make each pin around 75mg, I'll suck that into the needle first so I can get a a more accurate measure and it should be fine, then just do the prop with the same needle.

Cool, thanks yeah I've gotten mixed reports googling reviews.

Anyone else had experience with GP tren or prop?

 

[GarlicChicken]

Ok sweet. I'll just pin 3/4 to start out with that should make each pin around 75mg, I'll suck that into the needle first so I can get a a more accurate measure and it should be fine, then just do the prop with the same needle.

Cool, thanks yeah I've gotten mixed reports googling reviews.

Anyone else had experience with GP tren or prop?

If you switch the tren to ed you should try the slin pin method. It's great.

 

[LoveToLiftBig]

If you switch the tren to ed you should try the slin pin method. It's great.

And what exactly is the slin pin method? Aren't slin pins for injecting into fat?

To be honest I'll probably just stick with the eod but I'd be interested to hear the method for future reference.

 

[GarlicChicken]

And what exactly is the slin pin method? Aren't slin pins for injecting into fat?

To be honest I'll probably just stick with the eod but I'd be interested to hear the method for future reference.

I use a 28ga 1/2" slin pin when I start doing ed injects. Some guys like to pull out the plunger and backfill it with oil, but I just heat my vial and draw it up. It's slow, but I don't like running the risk of getting contaminants on the plunger. You can inject into leaner areas as long as you're not too fat...I do it for delts, pecs, lats, traps, tris, quads. The only real drawback is that you can only push 1cc at a time.

 

[LoveToLiftBig]

I'm actually thinking of going back on my words now an just running something like test p 10-12 weeks and tbol for the first 4 weeks or something. The reason I wanted to run the tren was I wanted to run something lean. Would test p/tbol cause bloat at all if I ran an ai throughout the cycle? Reason I wanted something lean is I went fat as fuck the last time with the test c/dbol :/

 

[Dath]

I'm actually thinking of going back on my words now an just running something like test p 10-12 weeks and tbol for the first 4 weeks or something. The reason I wanted to run the tren was I wanted to run something lean. Would test p/tbol cause bloat at all if I ran an ai throughout the cycle? Reason I wanted something lean is I went fat as fuck the last time with the test c/dbol :/

This sounds like a much better idea bro.
Test P and tbol with a good AI will keep the bloat down.

 

[GarlicChicken]

I'm actually thinking of going back on my words now an just running something like test p 10-12 weeks and tbol for the first 4 weeks or something. The reason I wanted to run the tren was I wanted to run something lean. Would test p/tbol cause bloat at all if I ran an ai throughout the cycle? Reason I wanted something lean is I went fat as fuck the last time with the test c/dbol :/

Prop is better on the bloat than cyp or enan, and I've never used tbol but I hear its like a bloatless dbol. Another thing you might want to think about it either some proviron or mast. Either is better than tren as far as sides go.

 

[LoveToLiftBig]

This sounds like a much better idea bro.
Test P and tbol with a good AI will keep the bloat down.

Hmm you think? I've read that I shouldn't get any bloat So basically if I ran something like, say the tbol to kick start the cycle for say first 4 weeks at a dosage of say 50mg? I was doing some reading on it and it only has half the anabolic effect of dbol but surely I should still make some solid gains off it right?

Prop is better on the bloat than cyp or enan, and I've never used tbol but I hear its like a bloatless dbol. Another thing you might want to think about it either some proviron or mast. Either is better than tren as far as sides go.

Yeah well I'm going to run the tbol I think and tbh I don't want to be ingesting to many orals for my livers sake.

I think I should grow from the test p/ tbol. sound good guys?

 

[GarlicChicken]

Hmm you think? I've read that I shouldn't get any bloat So basically if I ran something like, say the tbol to kick start the cycle for say first 4 weeks at a dosage of say 50mg? I was doing some reading on it and it only has half the anabolic effect of dbol but surely I should still make some solid gains off it right?



Yeah well I'm going to run the tbol I think and tbh I don't want to be ingesting to many orals for my livers sake.

I think I should grow from the test p/ tbol. sound good guys?

Yeah that sounds like a good mild cycle. You'll grow man

 

[LoveToLiftBig]

Yeah that sounds like a good mild cycle. You'll grow man

With a bit of look. hopefully I'll see some good gains.

 

[Dath]

Just something else to consider... Your prop will "kick" in quickly. I've never ran tbol but putting it and the end of the cycle would give you another jolt...also that's about that 8 wk period in the cycle when gains have a tendency to taper off.

 

[GarlicChicken]

Just something else to consider... Your prop will "kick" in quickly. I've never ran tbol but putting it and the end of the cycle would give you another jolt...also that's about that 8 wk period in the cycle when gains have a tendency to taper off.

This is very true...or run another oral at the end. That's a good idea I don't know why I didn't think of that...I usually just add or up another inject

 

[LoveToLiftBig]

Just something else to consider... Your prop will "kick" in quickly. I've never ran tbol but putting it and the end of the cycle would give you another jolt...also that's about that 8 wk period in the cycle when gains have a tendency to taper off.

Hmm thats actually true I never thought of that, so say then cycle is however long, start the tbol at say the 4th last week or something.

How long does it take the prop to kick in approximately?