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Wow. I knew those guys took stuff, but I had no idea it was like that. That sort of puts things into perspective and helps solidify my goals for me.
MuscleM4n said:
Which is completely fictional.
However, you may note that Jay Cutler said he wanted to retire very soon because of health reasons - he doesnt specify any further than that.
That was depressing. Male prostitution? Jesus...
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You think that being on all of that doesn't deteriorate health? Or just that they don't make enough money is BS?
Squaggleboggin said:
Hell yeah it trashes health. That guy said he pisses blood. He said he would never have children. He said his thyroid is wrecked. I am willing to bet that they don't make what they deserve as well.
It would of been interesting to know exactly what there taking and what the dosages are.CowPimp said:
CowPimp said:
You mean the guy who never existed? Every time this has been posted people are reminded that this is FAKE and it was admitted LONG AGO.
Bullshit interview, never happened.
Am I saying they aren't risking their health? No. Obviously some like Mike Matarazzo either didn't monitor at all, or closely enough OR just didn't care.
Tough Old Man said:
NOTHING. Are people ignoring my posts here? This person never existed, it was a ghostwritten article.
Let me cover some things for you guys.
There are pros, who run underground gear. Getting stuff for free, is not uncommon even for LESSER people. I know plenty of people including myself who get shit for free or pennies on the dollar.
I DONT EVEN COMPETE!
You think these guys pay what you pay for GH? No, they dont. $20-30 a day is probably the worst any of them pay.
Stop believing everything you read, biased authors want you to buy into their theories or plain old shit talking because there are people they dont like.
Mudge said:
I'll take your word for it, because I honestly know nothing about steroids/hormones and their cost.
I still don't like where bodybuilding has gone these days, even if this is total BS. Ah well...
I wont say that I dont find it a bit disgusting that even the small guys have guts now (NPC, Junior Nationals etc) - and yes I would never be a pro knowing what it takes (food too, just insane).
But drugs cost a TINY FRACTION of what people think of when they think of the cost of drugs. Gym prices, and pharmacy prices are WAY out of proportion to what the materials or underground costs are. Some of the larger underground sources do charge a bit though, because they can afford to lose a few anal people who could find cheaper sources anyway. For the few hundred they lose, they rake in thousands more from people who can't find anything better.
Paul Dillett said they run what they can afford, if that means home made tren then home made tren it is along with test. GH can be found for $1.10 or so an IU, and a pro will certainly have connections much better than some punk kid picking up a magazine hoping to find sources in the back.
As for the article I dont know that I care if it was written or not. We dont neccessarily need articles floating around giving all the ins and outs of finding sources, getting it through customs (if not domestic), and bringing more attention to users than is already becoming a big problem over the last couple years.
Those outside of the realm of using will perhaps read the article and believe every word of it, thats how all of life and the media is. People often believe what they are told without looking into it themselves, or "a friend told me that a friend of his died from ........" and they believe it. That is how many people work.
Why this article was written I have no idea, but it could have been an uneducated person posting as a ghostwriter who THOUGHT they were aware of the world of high end steroid users. Just because they saw a price list or two, does not make them experts in what people pay. What one can theoretically make at home for $7 could cost $300 in the gym, and THAT is not bullshit. At my last gym nobody stacked anything except for the exceptionally large guys, because it cost too damn much. A cycle of 300mg of deca a week, was NORMAL - in many circles that is not only a small cycle, but considered incomplete.
My favorite example is Anadrol at Walgreens, a pharmacy here in the US. What can cost someone $1500, I can get the raw materials from through a middle man for $13. He is probably paying someone else as well, so lets say 1-2 middle men plus profits for both, costs me less than $20 but the drug companies here rip you a new one just so you can live another day feeling a little better than you would have otherwise.
But drugs cost a TINY FRACTION of what people think of when they think of the cost of drugs. Gym prices, and pharmacy prices are WAY out of proportion to what the materials or underground costs are. Some of the larger underground sources do charge a bit though, because they can afford to lose a few anal people who could find cheaper sources anyway. For the few hundred they lose, they rake in thousands more from people who can't find anything better.
Paul Dillett said they run what they can afford, if that means home made tren then home made tren it is along with test. GH can be found for $1.10 or so an IU, and a pro will certainly have connections much better than some punk kid picking up a magazine hoping to find sources in the back.
As for the article I dont know that I care if it was written or not. We dont neccessarily need articles floating around giving all the ins and outs of finding sources, getting it through customs (if not domestic), and bringing more attention to users than is already becoming a big problem over the last couple years.
Those outside of the realm of using will perhaps read the article and believe every word of it, thats how all of life and the media is. People often believe what they are told without looking into it themselves, or "a friend told me that a friend of his died from ........" and they believe it. That is how many people work.
Why this article was written I have no idea, but it could have been an uneducated person posting as a ghostwriter who THOUGHT they were aware of the world of high end steroid users. Just because they saw a price list or two, does not make them experts in what people pay. What one can theoretically make at home for $7 could cost $300 in the gym, and THAT is not bullshit. At my last gym nobody stacked anything except for the exceptionally large guys, because it cost too damn much. A cycle of 300mg of deca a week, was NORMAL - in many circles that is not only a small cycle, but considered incomplete.
My favorite example is Anadrol at Walgreens, a pharmacy here in the US. What can cost someone $1500, I can get the raw materials from through a middle man for $13. He is probably paying someone else as well, so lets say 1-2 middle men plus profits for both, costs me less than $20 but the drug companies here rip you a new one just so you can live another day feeling a little better than you would have otherwise.
Lived in LA for 4 years and saw the ugly side of body building up close........part of the reason I stoped working out for a long time. I feel sorry for these young kids and adults who think they know whats up in that sport...and they have never left Iowa... 
