Lucid Dreaming/OBE

[Crono1000]

I'm giving this up. Last night I wanted nothing but to fall asleep, but it was a very restless night. I couldn't "turn it off." Granted I have a cold and had some night time medicines, but that should have made me fall asleep even easier

 

[maniclion]

I'm giving this up. Last night I wanted nothing but to fall asleep, but it was a very restless night. I couldn't "turn it off." Granted I have a cold and had some night time medicines, but that should have made me fall asleep even easier

If you took nyquil or robotussin then your going to be tripping out all night, DXM does that to you.

 

[silencer]

For fuck sakes, I knew after "Remembering" this crap that it would happen again, This afternoon I lay down for a little sleep due to the poor sleep the previous night and Once again I had the wierd version of OBE, as In I was in Bed but I was paralysed and I couldn't move around or anything, for some reason it wasn't too scary this time round (maybe since it was in the daytime), but It sure as hell isn't pleasant, I hate this crap

 

[Crono1000]

For fuck sakes, I knew after "Remembering" this crap that it would happen again, This afternoon I lay down for a little sleep due to the poor sleep the previous night and Once again I had the wierd version of OBE, as In I was in Bed but I was paralysed and I couldn't move around or anything, for some reason it wasn't too scary this time round (maybe since it was in the daytime), but It sure as hell isn't pleasant, I hate this crap

that's sleep paralysis. Our body does it every night we go to sleep, so that we don't thrash around in our sleep, but sometimes your mind becomes aware and you'll experience a pseudo dream like (sometimes more, sometimes less) state in which you feel trapped in your sleeping body while your mind is awake. This varies depending on your own personal factors and how tired you are going to sleep. It tends to happen either at the beginning of a sleep (particularly when you're very exhausted, but this doesn't have to be the case) or when you're waking up in the morning (especially when you're getting past the standard 8 hours or if you take a nap shortly after waking up from sleep)

 

[Vieope]

I slept for 5 hours, didnt dream at all, woke up and slept again. The first dream happened and I woke up, wrote something about it and went back to the second dream. I was not lucid in any of them but they were very vivid.


The first dream was kinda dull, I was sitting down in front of the mall in my city talking to a friend that I rarely see. Then I asked him what was the date, he didnt know so I started to run between people in the mall, asking everybody what was the date and nobody knew. Finally I realized that I lost a flight that occurred five days ago.

The second dream was sweet. I was in one of the islands that are part of the United Kingdom talking to this beautiful blonde and we started to kiss, after a while she sad she had to go to this party and that her friend was about to pick her up. She asked me if I didnt want to go and I said that I couldnt since I didnt have an invitation, turn out that the party was in the house of one of my aunts. We entered a boat heading to London or somewhere near it and while in the middle of the trip one of the passengers looks to an iceberg and says "It is kinda cold" and laughs. Somehow I am in a car, in a place that looks like my town but it is London and we are about to get robbed when someone gets out of there fast and we are in front of the gate of the house. Turns out the house is a huge mansion, dark with long corridors. There I talk to a lot of members of my family and exhausted I sit at a table in the kitchen. I look back and see that are many people playing tennis, soccer and other sports in a field behind me, I go there and when I am heading back towards the house I see this dog sleeping, gray dog. I get closer and the animal that seemed like a dog is a huge werewolf chained in the neck, he stands up, huge and screams not exactly in my direction but to something behind me, although there was nothing there. While I stay there panicking in fear, my aunt looks at me and says "It is for protection", a girl by her side says "Yeah" and nobody but me seems to care about the animal.

 

[silencer]

that's sleep paralysis. Our body does it every night we go to sleep, so that we don't thrash around in our sleep, but sometimes your mind becomes aware and you'll experience a pseudo dream like (sometimes more, sometimes less) state in which you feel trapped in your sleeping body while your mind is awake. This varies depending on your own personal factors and how tired you are going to sleep. It tends to happen either at the beginning of a sleep (particularly when you're very exhausted, but this doesn't have to be the case) or when you're waking up in the morning (especially when you're getting past the standard 8 hours or if you take a nap shortly after waking up from sleep)

Yea sorry I should have mentioned more detail. I knew I was asleep yet my mind was awake....the wierd thing was my eyes were closed but I could see my room. and that happens every time this happens...it happens regularly unfortunately

 

[Crono1000]

I've had sleep paralysis since sometime in my teens. By now I've gotten pretty used to it. When I was younger I experienced the "old hag" syndrome, where there would be an evil presense in the room with me. I've seen some seriously disturbing shit, but mostly nowadays when I have it I'm just stuck in my body and any precense I am aware is just in my head. I'm accustomed to it enough that I can just relax and drift into a dream or if I'm not prepared for it I might panic. My girlfriend periodically wakes me up saying I'm gasping for breath or jumping in my sleep which generally means she's waking me up from sleep paralysis. I have it almost on a nightly basis, although it does go away from time to time for a few weeks and then show back up with a vengence.

 

[Crono1000]

The "old hag" syndrome because this is a shared nightmare across the world across cultures, and they all seem to share a similar "presense" during their sleep paralysis, typically being a demon or an old fat lady. In history along with wet dreams, sleep paralysis meant a demon (incubus or succubus) had visited you in your sleep and either had sex with you (wet dreams) or sat on your chest (sleep paralysis). It's often considered a phenomenon because cultures seemingly unconnected share the same representation of what this presense is. In my experience it's whatever you make it, and is nothing but a manifestation of what you would not want around your body when you're left vulnerable and is a common "what if" scenario if you become paralyzed (particularly in a dream like state)

I've had pretty limited old hag syndrom, but I've had these things happen, and they're so scary because they feel so real and you're paralyzed, victom to whatever they do to you:

I've had a group of ghosts align the sides of my bed staring down at me

I've had the grim reaper enter my room and stab me in the chest

I've seen blood cover the wall imprinted with hand prints

 

[Little Wing]

that sucks crono...

i used to be able to control my dreams sometimes it was something i read n tried forever then i started having dreams that i wanted. (not sex dreams hanging out with arnold stuff like that) then i went on a medication and didn't dream or didn't remember my dreams for years. i dream a lot now so maybe i could conjur dreams again. last night before i went to sleep i thought about what i wanted to dream for like an hr... i don't remember dreaming at all.

 

[maniclion]

I took Ambien and Talwin and Zanaflex just now, everythin sounds distorted from the tv so my mind is turning it into a family fight sleep outside finally the Mom is saying "You two will stay out under the stars." They say "bullshit not so the Buzzuerg can find us and take all of our fluids and reinstall bio-gell even though our CNS still reacts with it, sometimes it overreacts and you end up jack crackin the dude in front of you inline cause a simple shuffle foot forward command had crossed with an immediate and intense turn eyes command which was triggered by the dashing dame in aisle 0 but instead switched track like a railcar and headed to your foot tossing it straight into the mans frills for thrills beneth the hills real estate. Well thogh my good man you lucked at the same instant when the shuffle signal to you feet hit your eyes and you fluttered as though startled by the ravishing broad who takes this as a sign of interest by a gentleman, since generally most men stare.

 

[MyK]

I took Ambien and Talwin and Zanaflex just now, everythin sounds distorted from the tv so my mind is turning it into a family fight sleep outside finally the Mom is saying "You two will stay out under the stars." They say "bullshit not so the Buzzuerg can find us and take all of our fluids and reinstall bio-gell even though our CNS still reacts with it, sometimes it overreacts and you end up jack crackin the dude in front of you inline cause a simple shuffle foot forward command had crossed with an immediate and intense turn eyes command which was triggered by the dashing dame in aisle 0 but instead switched track like a railcar and headed to your foot tossing it straight into the mans frills for thrills beneth the hills real estate. Well thogh my good man you lucked at the same instant when the shuffle signal to you feet hit your eyes and you fluttered as though startled by the ravishing broad who takes this as a sign of interest by a gentleman, since generally most men stare.

I was just gonna say that! thats sooo weird!! huh!

 

[lioness]

Yeah more than two words

Can you post your dreams here? I would like to read them.
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/showthread.php?t=58283

hmmmm. don't really like feeling exposed like that.

however,

i am curious about some things.

i'll have to 'test the water' and see what people are thinking around here. i don't really have many answers.

i DO have many many questions...

 

[maniclion]

I took Ambien and Talwin and Zanaflex just now, everythin sounds distorted from the tv so my mind is turning it into a family fight sleep outside finally the Mom is saying "You two will stay out under the stars." They say "bullshit not so the Buzzuerg can find us and take all of our fluids and reinstall bio-gell even though our CNS still reacts with it, sometimes it overreacts and you end up jack crackin the dude in front of you inline cause a simple shuffle foot forward command had crossed with an immediate and intense turn eyes command which was triggered by the dashing dame in aisle 0 but instead switched track like a railcar and headed to your foot tossing it straight into the mans frills for thrills beneth the hills real estate. Well thogh my good man you lucked at the same instant when the shuffle signal to you feet hit your eyes and you fluttered as though startled by the ravishing broad who takes this as a sign of interest by a gentleman, since generally most men stare.

thIS DUDE NEEDS TO STAY OFF OF THE DURGS!!!!!!!

 

[Vieope]

thIS DUDE NEEDS TO STAY OFF OF THE DURGS!!!!!!!

 

[Vieope]

hmmmm. don't really like feeling exposed like that.

Look who doesnt have all those words anymore.

 

[lioness]

Look who doesnt have all those words anymore.

yep. you found the key.

 

[fletcher6490]

Anybody ever heard of a drug called DMT...

 

[Nate K]

There are Lucid dreaming glasses that you wear that flash a light when you enter REM (rapid eye movement) sleep and you can acknowledge that while you are sleeping because you know it is going to happen. Then you can begin to controll what happens in you dream.

 

[lioness]

Anyone here experience Astral Projection?

 

[Crono1000]

Anyone here experience Astral Projection?

I'm not sure on this. Sleep paralysis is supposedly a good gate into OBE's, and I've experienced floating out of my body while feeling completely concious, but who's not to say that that was just a dream? It's hard to distinguish the difference between a dream and a memory of something that really has happened, in that the dream is no more or less real than the coke I remember drinking 5 minutes ago.

I've read enough about Astral projection/OBE that it might have influenced a dream about it. So it's hard to say. My sleep paralysis and lucid dreaming felt much more real than that did in that I can say I was myself during the events. I woke up from the "OBE" with a jolt, sweating, and with my heart racing as it would had I just experienced it, but I'm still not convinced, I'm not even convinced they exist at all. I kind of think it's just a common theme for lucid dreaming.

 

[BigDyl]

I had sleep paralysis today when I took a nap. It was only for a minute or so, and I could remeber seeing the room, even though my eyes were closed.

 

[fUnc17]

Every time i cut out mega man multivitamins for a week or whatever, and start them over, i get HORRIBLE OBE's. Absolutely terrifying night tremors as well, that shit is scary.

 

[maniclion]

I took Ambien and Talwin and Zanaflex just now, everythin sounds distorted from the tv so my mind is turning it into a family fight sleep outside finally the Mom is saying "You two will stay out under the stars." They say "bullshit not so the Buzzuerg can find us and take all of our fluids and reinstall bio-gell even though our CNS still reacts with it, sometimes it overreacts and you end up jack crackin the dude in front of you inline cause a simple shuffle foot forward command had crossed with an immediate and intense turn eyes command which was triggered by the dashing dame in aisle 0 but instead switched track like a railcar and headed to your foot tossing it straight into the mans frills for thrills beneth the hills real estate. Well thogh my good man you lucked at the same instant when the shuffle signal to you feet hit your eyes and you fluttered as though startled by the ravishing broad who takes this as a sign of interest by a gentleman, since generally most men stare.

I just realized that this was written while I was practically asleep, I don't remember writing it at all. It came from my subconcious mind......

 

[lioness]

I just realized that this was written while I was practically asleep, I don't remember writing it at all. It came from my subconcious mind......

does it make any sense to you now?

or

are you as confused as the rest of us?

were you observing this? creating this? participating in this?

 

[maniclion]

does it make any sense to you now?

or

are you as confused as the rest of us?

were you observing this? creating this? participating in this?

It makes perfect sense now that I remember who I was reading that night, William S. Burroughs. I must have gotten caught in a writing mode similar to his and just let my mind empty about an event that occured to me earlier that day.

 

[fletcher6490]

It makes perfect sense now that I remember who I was reading that night, William S. Burroughs. I must have gotten caught in a writing mode similar to his and just let my mind empty about an event that occured to me earlier that day.

Let me get some of whatever you're on.

 

[Vieope]

Anybody ever heard of a drug called DMT...

Funny, I read a book about it a few days ago while I was reading a few books for the university. It was not a book about drug abuse but about DMT possible psychotherapeutic properties in helping patients dealing with problems, some psychologists tried to use it like prozac but it was never approved for hospital use because it is not totally safe. I dont know anything about party drugs, ask maniclion if you want to know something.

Anyway..

DMT, the active ingredient in plants that are used in latin america by tribes for shamanistic reasons is just extremely potent. Did you know that it is the only endogenous psychedelic we know? That means we produce it in our bodies as well but it is released only in a few occasions. It is stored in the pineal gland and it is closely related to melatonin and seratonin. Now the cool part about it, it is only released when a person is born, suffers near death experience or death itself.

It means that people that take this drug usually have a sense of dying and talking to other beings, they can call it angels or aliens. Some psychologists think that due a malfunction in the brain, DMT is released in ordinary occasions leading many to think they were abducted by aliens in spaceships.

I never tried it but if you do be aware, it is strong as hell.

 

[lioness]

Funny, I read a book about it a few days ago while I was reading a few books for the university. It was not a book about drug abuse but about DMT possible psychotherapeutic properties in helping patients dealing with problems, some psychologists tried to use it like prozac but it was never approved for hospital use because it is not totally safe. I dont know anything about party drugs, ask maniclion if you want to know something.

Anyway..

DMT, the active ingredient in plants that are used in latin america by tribes for shamanistic reasons is just extremely potent. Did you know that it is the only endogenous psychedelic we know? That means we produce it in our bodies as well but it is released only in a few occasions. It is stored in the pineal gland and it is closely related to melatonin and seratonin. Now the cool part about it, it is only released when a person is born, suffers near death experience or death itself.

It means that people that take this drug usually have a sense of dying and talking to other beings, they can call it angels or aliens. Some psychologists think that due a malfunction in the brain, DMT is released in ordinary occasions leading many to think they were abducted by aliens in spaceships.

I never tried it but if you do be aware, it is strong as hell.

whoa!

is this an ingredient in something which someone might take for sleep?

or

is it a 'drug'...and if you're taking it...you know you're taking it?

 

[Vieope]

whoa!

is this an ingredient in something which someone might take for sleep?

or

is it a 'drug'...and if you're taking it...you know you're taking it?

Drug, occurs in many plants and in many animals including humans. No, it is not a supplement, unless you think lsd is too weak and you need a supplement for it.

Well you definitely going to know you took it. It acts really fast and dont last more than a few minutes but you feel like going through a tunnel and talking to other beings. Not always, I read that some people feel like looking down earth from space or something fucked up like that. Most people relate similar beings, usually in the shape of insects, that is why many ancient civilizations have those weird gods. Do you know the ones I am talking about?

It is only legal in a few countries, including my country or in the city of amsterdam because it is used by the some religions and different philosophies. I think it can be dangerous if your mind is not ready that is why I never tried it or any other drug, I think am not stable enough and I guess a possible nervous breakdown would happen.

 

[Vieope]

I remember who I was reading that night, William S. Burroughs.

Damn it. I didnt read naked lunch yet.