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The only difference I noticed when I dropped the dose was better sleep. I haven't lifted at all for the last 7 days but I can still feel a decent "pump" from my last workout.
 
Back/traps/neck stays a bit tense. 10 mg. is still sitting pretty. I want to go to 15mg, but will wait until week 2. I think my body is adjusting, as the sides of the first few days are lighter. :yawn:
 
WHAT IS THE HIGHEST DOSE OF M1T ANYONE HAS DONE? i AM JUST FINISHING WEEK 4, AT 20MG PER DAY, ABOUT TO CYCLE OFF. oops sorry on the caps. No side effects what so ever( used 4AD transd) Felt f***ing great the whole time. Looking forward to nex time. Might try more. Any thoughts??
 
I've read a few posts on other boards of people using 40mg+.
 
MTN WARRIOR said:
WHAT IS THE HIGHEST DOSE OF M1T ANYONE HAS DONE? i AM JUST FINISHING WEEK 4, AT 20MG PER DAY, ABOUT TO CYCLE OFF. oops sorry on the caps. No side effects what so ever( used 4AD transd) Felt f***ing great the whole time. Looking forward to nex time. Might try more. Any thoughts??
I am doing the same cycle. Only, I started at 10 mg., now at 15 mg., think I will start 20 mg. tonight. No way am I going higher. How much 4-AD did you do? I am doing 3 squirts twice daily, thinking about upping it to 4 sprays twice. 4-AD make me :thumb: . M1T = :yawn: . Don't know what the most someone has done. Probably some idiot has done 100 mg. by now.
 
What is M1T. Is it a supplement , Prohormone, or staight syzruip !!
 
GYM GURU said:
What is M1T. Is it a supplement , Prohormone, or staight syzruip !!
Methyl 1-Testosterone is a prohormone. Effective, but hard on your system. :barf:
 
PirateFromHell said:
Methyl 1-Testosterone is a prohormone. Effective, but hard on your system. :barf:

Sorry to split hairs Pirate - it's actually a Prosteroid.
;)
 
redspy said:
Sorry to split hairs Pirate - it's actually a Prosteroid.
;)
I stand corrected. I was just looking at prosteriods on bulknutrition just before I posted that, too. My mind is not working properly. I'm going to bed. :o
 
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Well, I took 20 mg. tonight and I can't sleep. Would the M1T cause this?
 
yeah i could be, i have read that other people have had insomnia from it. if you check out bulk nutrition forums there is a thread on it.
 
It is strange: All the side I had the first few days are gone, and I am taking 20 mg. a day. It seems like I require less sleep to feel fully rested. My mind may be effected, though. I know it sounds wierd. I really couldn't remember how old I as for about a minute last night, and everytime I posted something I would have to edit it a few times for it be right. Yeah, sounds like misattribution. I already have problems sleeping. I think I will take half the day's dose in the morning and half at night. See if that helps. I would use ZMA, but there isn't a minute in the day that my stomach is empty. I am eating about 4000 calories, and only weigh 155 lbs.
 
PirateFromHell said:
and everytime I posted something I would have to edit it a few times for it be right. Yeah, sounds like misattribution. QUOTE]

That lack of natural test makes us indecisive like women! lmao " what do you wanna do tonight?" - "I dont know"
 
Luke9583 said:
PirateFromHell said:
and everytime I posted something I would have to edit it a few times for it be right. Yeah, sounds like misattribution. QUOTE]

That lack of natural test makes us indecisive like women! lmao " what do you wanna do tonight?" - "I dont know"
:laugh: more like dimwitted! Strange, I am on 20 mg. a day and feel great! It just keeps getting better. That 4-AD is my best friend :D
 
Just finished my M1T cycle. I split up my 20mg a day. 1/2 in a.m., 1/2 after workout. Dont take it too late because it raises BP, which causes insomnia. I came off 4 week cycle with no sides (except for this twitch in my neck and a little frothing, ah that will pass) Just kidding. No sides. Very focused all the time. extreme strength motivation desire. Put on about 10 pounds, will see how much stays. Very ripped. Feel great, doing PCT with 6-oxo. Will see how that works. I am fucking happy about how it went. I am thorooughly impressed. M1T, where have you been all my life??
 
I took 20 mg. one night and couldn't sleep. Now I take 10 mg in the morning and 10 at night. I think that is working better.
 
I'm on my fourth M1T/4AD cycle. It's underground labs M1T and Dermabolics 4AD spray. Each time it's been the same type of cycle for me: 30 days on, 30 days off. The sides have been different for each cycle but mostly revolve around acne, sore lower back, mild insomnia (near the end), and headaches. I've experimented with diffrent doses and had good results each time. I usually put on a lot of bloat, but when all is said and done, each one month cycle has helped me pack on (and retain)
5 solid pounds of muscle. I use the spray liberally three times per day througout the entire cycle and for PCT, I use liquid Nolva AND 6-OXO. The cycles have gone something like this (BTW - the real bad sides, sickness, etc have really subsided after the first two cycles):
Cycle 1/
week one - 5 mg's/day
week two - 10 mg's/day
week three - 15 mg's/day
week four - 20 mg's/day
Cylcle 2/
week one - 15 mg's per day
week two - 30 mg's per day
week three - 45 mg's per day
week four - 60 mg's per day
Cycle 3/
week one - 30 mg's per day
week two - 30 mg's per day
week three - 40 mg's per day
week four - 50 mg's per day
This last one worked best for me - the 60 mg's was getting pretty dicey. all I know is that some stupid fucking 16-year old is going to try like 100 mg's per day and die and then they're going to ban everything - some asshole always has to throw a turd in the punchbowl.
 
Oh, also, I take the M1T throughout the day, not all at once, and my libido has been insane, too bad my wife's isn't...
 
SRC said:
Oh, also, I take the M1T throughout the day, not all at once, and my libido has been insane, too bad my wife's isn't...
How big are you? That 4-AD most be doing it's job if your libido is insane. Mine is a bit stunted, but I am only doing 3 sprays twice a day of the 4-AD and 20 mg/day M1T. I should try 4-AD 3 times a day. I feel the test high for only about 4-5 hours after spraying.
 
I'm 6'0 and 215 lbs. with a set of love handles I can't fucking lose. The rest is decently solid muscle. I'm 32 years old and have never done illegal anabolics (not for lack of trying), but have been doing pro-steroids for the past year and have gone from 185 lbs. to my current 215 (with the occasionla weigh in at 225 - 230 during bulking). So that's 30 lbs. of solid muscle I've added and retained from PS's in one year. I didn't change my diet or regimine either, so I can say the shit's definately worth it. I just hope my liver doesn't look like black pudding right now. I don't even waste my time w/1-test, mag 10, etc. anymore, M1T and 4ad spray is the only OTC cycle I'm going to do from now on (I stocked up like a mofo on the stuff). The sex drive has slowly gotten better over the past few M1T cycles. I guess I do use a shitload of 4ad - when I say I apply it liberally, I mean it. But, yeah, especially this last cycle, I'm on day 24 right now and my johnson is like it was when I was 14. Usually about two weeks into the cycle I get limp noodle syndrome when my natural test crashes, maybe my bod's getting used to it, go figure.
 
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Wow, those are very impressive gains you have made. Those are the two I stocked up on too, but this is my fist cycle. I have done a few 1-ad cycles before and only weigh 155 lbs, so I won't be dosing the M1T as high as you. In fact, I can't sleep right now because I took 10 mg before bed. I was dead tired before I took it. I don't want to take all 20 mg in the morning and workout with my blood pressure through the roof. Maybe it is better than losing sleep. Two weeks in and even though I increased the dose two-fold the sides have gone away--well the allergy like sides at least. I feel great, really. I know it is the 4-AD. I hope you are carefull not to let that 4-AD rub off on your girlfriend. I had to wear my shirt during sex last night. You should post some pics from a year ago and now. I'd love to be able to put on 30 lbs of lean body mass in a year. Of course, I'm sure I could with illegal anabolics. It is actually funny that M1T is legal. It is no different than other steriods. My stuff doesn't expire for about 3 years. Maybe I should get enough to last until then. I only have about 1.5 years supply of M1T and 1 year supply of 4-AD. Yeah, I hope it doesn't kill my liver. I got blood work done a few days prior to begining my cycle, and will get it done again at the end of a 4 week PCT. Then, I will decide if I want more. I'm not willing to ruin my health and shorten my life for the cause.
 
Sounds like you're being a lot more cautious than I with getting your blood work done. That's a really good idea and I should probably do the same. I try to keep the stuff from getting on my wife. What really sucks is actually keeping the 4ad from just sliding off my body during the summers here. We're in a very hot part of CA (it was 109 yesterday) and we don't have a/c in this house we just got so I sweat so damn much I probably lose 1/2 of the spay I put on every time. Yes, I have done 1 year of straight PS cycles (30 days on and 30 days off) and am quite happy with the results. I have yet to do a serious cutting phase though and hope I don't shed too much of my gains. I've always had good genetics as far as size, but gains come real slow for me so this was a huge boost for me. Now, if I can only find a love handle eliminator that works as well as M1T does for size, I'd be in real good shape. As far as the old liver goes, you're right, orals are hard no matter the type AS's or PS's. As far as the insomnia, my first two cycles of PS's kicked my ass. I couldn't sleep for shit even after a good workout and a couple Tylenol PM's. But that problem has gone away with repeated cycles as well.
 
Take your last M1T earlier in the evening, by 1800 hours and it shouldnt bother you
 
MTN WARRIOR said:
Take your last M1T earlier in the evening, by 1800 hours and it shouldnt bother you
That was my reasoning last night. It still kept me up a bit. I think I will take 10 mg. post work out early afternoon (1pm) and one at 6pm, even though they aren't spread apart well. I was just taking all 20 mg at once before. My throat is a little sore...Maybe 20 mg. is to much for my poor liver :cry:
 
PirateFromHell said:
Maybe 20 mg. is to much for my poor liver :cry:
I guess that's possible?!?! when stacked w/ the 4 derm.
 
Well, today I took all 20 mg. at 1 pm after my workout. Hopefully, I will sleep better. I keep wanting to up the 4-AD, but I don't know if that would do much more than make me horny.
 
Something made me horny as shit once I went up to 20mg and 8 sprays per day. Was f***ing every night.
 
MTN WARRIOR said:
Something made me horny as shit once I went up to 20mg and 8 sprays per day. Was f***ing every night.
Yeah, today I will begin 4 sprays twice a day. Something has to make up for my nuts taking a vacation.
 
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