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Training for 8/6: Shoulders/Triceps

DB mil press
50lbx8
50lbx6
45lbx7
45lbx5

Cable front raise
40lbx6
40lbx5

Reverse pec dec
70lbx10
70lbx8

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CG bench
135lbx10
135lbx6

JM press
65lbx8
65lbx7
65lbx5.5

Assisted dips
-80lbx10
-50lbx7.5

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RI's were 60-90s. I was planning on bringing my delt volume back up after having lowered it due to my worthless right cuff, but to my suprise, strength increased a bit more than normal... so i basically repeated last weeks routine, to see if the trend continues.

Tri's were alright. Mild strength increases. JM presses are quickly becoming a favorite exercise.

Meals have been the same. Brown rice and chicken. No carb day today.

Oh, and a sidenote: 10% forskolin not only tastes like the rotting entrails of a bloated whale sitting in the sun for a month, but a gram of it makes me feel drunk for a good 30 minutes. it's not a sloppy drunk... best way to describe it is that your inhibitions are lowered a la alcohol, but with you still in control of your actions. very similar to ~2g of PS, but lasts a bit longer.
 
How many dips un-assisted can you do? Have you thought of just doing sets like that?
 
If i do dips first i can get a set of maybe 12 with just my bw.
 
Again with the DB presses. Don;t lower the weight. You should have tried to bang out 2 more sets of 4-6 with the 50s. Either that or killed your first set at 6 (or even 5) and tried to do 6 reps for each set instead of busting your nut on the first set.
 
P-funk said:
Again with the DB presses. Don;t lower the weight. You should have tried to bang out 2 more sets of 4-6 with the 50s. Either that or killed your first set at 6 (or even 5) and tried to do 6 reps for each set instead of busting your nut on the first set.
Yeah, i hit the gym before i saw your suggestion. :grin:

From now on tho, will do. :D
 
Training for 8/7: Hams/Grip/Abs

Superset platform deads + SLDL's
185lbx6+4 (platform dead + SLDL)
225lbx8+2
225lbx8+2
225lbx8

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Wrist curl

95lbx10
95lbx10
95lbx10

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Decline crunch

bwx20
bwx20
bwx20

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Sort of messed around today. Still got an excellent w/o for the hams. Platform deads are pretty neat, but god damn it feels like im lifting the weight forever. Makes me wish i wasnt so fucking tall. Anyway, i threw in some SLDL's at the end of the set to finish off my hams as my lower back was getting fatigued pretty quickly. I used straps (i know, i know).

Grip strength increased again. Two more reps on the final set just since tuesday. Im really starting to like using straps and just doing more frequent direct grip work.

Tomorrow is my last day on m4ohn. Im looking forward to PCT, as i have an odd inkling that the nolva/6oxo/7oxo may create a more anabolic environment than the m4ohn itself, thanks to my rather strange biology (and some would say thanks to the rather impotent steroid i chose to use).
 
how high off the ground was your platform?
 
Good luck with pct. Why so much shit though? Trying to jupstart lh?
 
This is the first time I've peeked in your journal Mono... and I read most of it. You have really improved since the start. Keep up the good work!
 
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PreMier said:
Good luck with pct. Why so much shit though? Trying to jupstart lh?
Well, just from reading over info on SERM's and AI's, it looks like the most efficient PCT would be one that utilizes both... ideally beginning with a SERM and tapering down with an AI added towards the end of the PCT. Still doing some reading on it all, so im not quite positive on how ill work the 6oxo in at the end, but ive got some time.

The 7oxo i'd like to run for the duration of the PCT, but its already mixed in with the 6oxo. No biggie, though.

m4ohn is reportedly very easy on the HPTA, making recovery easy... especially at my rather low dose. My boys have been working just fine. Still, i'm curious about how manipulating estrogen can affect the body... and what better time to experiment than with PCT. ;)
 
Hey JD, thanks for the encouragement. Slow but steady. :/

yellowmoomba said:
So you liked the Rack Deadlifts?? :thumb:
I love rack deads... but thats not what i did yesterday. ;)

Platform deads were a fun change, but i dont think i can go too heavy on them. At the bottom of the movement, my knees are nearly in my neck... aka its not a very nice looking form. It's also really obvious that my hams have the flexibility of concrete; at the bottom my pelvis gets tucked under unless i use more of an SLDL form (keep my ass up higher).
 
Monolith said:
Hey JD, thanks for the encouragement. Slow but steady. :/


I love rack deads... but thats not what i did yesterday. ;)

Platform deads were a fun change, but i dont think i can go too heavy on them. At the bottom of the movement, my knees are nearly in my neck... aka its not a very nice looking form. It's also really obvious that my hams have the flexibility of concrete; at the bottom my pelvis gets tucked under unless i use more of an SLDL form (keep my ass up higher).

Opps :confused: Platform deads don't sound like much fun :D
 
Stats for 8/9:

Stomach - 38.15"
Right arm - 16.1"
Left arm - 15.8"
Right quad - 24.8"
Left quad - 24.7"
Neck - 15.75"
BW - 220.5lbs
BF - somewhere below 50%

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So, i got some myotape this past week. Much easier to take measurements with... unfortunately, i also found out my ratty old tape was somewhat inaccurate. Gut measures about an inch and a half larger on the new tape. Although the new tape also makes my arms a bit larger, too. Going by measurements on the old tape, there were some slight movements in the measurements. Gut was down a tad, as were the quads. Lost half a pound from last week.

The electronic BF calipers i have are quite worthless. Im constantly getting readings anywhere from 15-19%, so im really not making any judgements with it anymore. I look a smidgen leaner, but not much of a change overall. I was gonna take pics last night but forgot. I'll prolly take some tonight... but unfortunately ill be a little bloated since today's a high carb day.

Started PCT today. Prolly gonna look something like this:
Week 1 - 40mg nolva/ED
Week 2 - 30mg nolva/ED
Week 3 - 10mg nolva/ED + 120mg transdermal 6oxo + 120mg transdermal 7oxo
Week 4 - 60mg transdermal 6oxo + 60mg transdermal 7oxo

If anyones got any suggestions, id be glad to hear them. :D
 
As for the M4OHN...

Using my old tape measure, the changes looked something like this:

Stomach: -1.25"
Right arm: -0.2"
Left arm: -0.05"
Right quad: -0.45"
Left quad: -0.05"
Neck: unchanged
BW: unchanged
BF: your guess is as good as mine

So, for 6 weeks, nothing too drastic. BW fluctuated from 219.5 to 221.5, but finally settled back down at 220.5... right where i began. Strength seemed to increase slightly, most notably in the legs. Press and squats went up quite a bit. It's kind of hard to guage for other bp's, as exercises and RI's are different... but im confident if i repeated my first weeks routine all the weights would be up.

Contrasted with my last log, in which i used Leptigen Rebirth + Sesathin, i lost 13lbs over 8 weeks including ~3 inches off my gut. Strength stayed the same or inreased mildly. However, that was also when i first began a couple antidepressents messing with norepinephrine et al... so that may have had something to do with it (especially considering the abnormal weightloss i had in the week i began those drugs).

I would definitely run M4OHN again, but at a higher dose. I was going to have blood work done on cycle... but after seeing others do the same at higher doses and having no abnormal values, i just saved my money.

Id love to see what kind of results id get by combining rebirth, sesathin, and a low dose anabolic like M4OHN.
 
haha, almost. :D

ill probably keep this one open for the duration of my PCT. after that... man... so many choices! Im gonna have to throw some drugs in a hat and just pick. :lol:
 
and you're planning on visiting sydney? australian customs won't let you thru. being more substance than beast. they do urine tests, you know. :eyebrow:
 
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Training for 8/9: Chest/Biceps/Abs

BB flat
175lbx7
175lbx5
175lbx5

BB decline
155lbx10
155lbx9.5

DB incline
60lbx6
60lbx5
60lbx5

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Preacher curl
75lbx10
75lbx9
75lbx5.5

Incline DB curl
20lbx10
20lbx10
20lbx8

BB curl
55lbx10
55lbx8

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Decline crunch
bw+10x20
bw+10x20
bw+10x15

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RI's were 90-120s. Strength felt very good. Got 155lbx10 on bench last week, did 175lbx7 this week. Chart shows my max is up about 9lbs. Still a long ways from my old 185lbx9, but its getting there. Bench form is still a little rough around the edges, and the shoulder is giving me intermittent problems... but i cant complain. Third set of bench, i think i was letting my elbows out a bit too far, losing proper form, which let me get another 5 reps. Oh well. Bi's felt strong as well... some decent increases there.
 
So where are the pics?

I also think you haev a cantidate for umm.. "holding" :lol:

Nice curls :)
 
Nice timing PM. I just took some pics actually, and i do look a bit leaner than 6 weeks ago. I swear though, its so goddamn hard to see any changes... Ive dropped 28lbs over the past few months, not including recomp moments like the past 6 weeks, and my pics barely look any different. A friend told me its because im tall. :rolleyes:

And wtf do you mean holding? :spaz:

Oh, forgot to mention... i had a cup of that carb countdown chocolate milk with my first meal this AM. Holy christ, that stuff is GOOD! I think its the closest thing to a mouth orgasm ive ever felt. Half the fat, a tenth of the carbs, twice the protein, and its still thick, creamy, and delicious. Im thinking i shouldnt have bought it now, though... because i cant have any more, and its just sitting there in my fridge now. :grin:
 
It has a long shelf life :) Have a bowl of fiber one and lc milk on your high carb days :)
 
Maybe... i suppose 2 or 3 cups a week of the stuff wont kill me. Even if it is stuffed with saturated fat.

I tried to find that sugar free/calorie free syrup Layne mentioned, but my local grocery chain didnt have it. I cant believe such a product exists... and actually tastes as good as he says it does. I mean, shit, if it really has no sugar and no calories, im gonna be putting this on everything. Chocolate syrup on chicken, chocolate syrup on sweet potatos, chocolate syrup on brown rice, chocolate syrup on tuna...
 
:rofl: I've tried the Walden Farm maple syrup. :shake: I hated it. It was so fake tasting and just plain gross. I don't know about the chocolate. I do like their salad dressings though :thumb: Now those are good. I tried some today :D
 
Monolith said:
And wtf do you mean holding? :spaz:

carbchick said:
and you're planning on visiting sydney? australian customs won't let you thru. being more substance than beast. they do urine tests, you know. :eyebrow:

:D
 
Monolith said:
Oh, forgot to mention... i had a cup of that carb countdown chocolate milk with my first meal this AM. Holy christ, that stuff is GOOD! I think its the closest thing to a mouth orgasm ive ever felt. Half the fat, a tenth of the carbs, twice the protein, and its still thick, creamy, and delicious. Im thinking i shouldnt have bought it now, though... because i cant have any more, and its just sitting there in my fridge now. :grin:
Try the yogurt...mmmmm....
 
LOL PM :lol:

Jodi, im gonna try and run up to the whole foods near me tonight. Hopefully they have some. Man... i cant wait. LOL I know you said the maple tastes bad, but who the hell uses maple syrup on anything but pancakes anyway? And its not like i eat those a whole lot. So theres still hope for the chocolate... mmm... sweet, sweet chocolatey goodness. :heartpump
 
I use sugar free maple syrup on my oatmeal.
 
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