Marines/Army/Navy/Airforce

[Focus]

Veteran Marines

Marines and those familiar with Marine Corps tradition will often object to the use of the term "ex-Marine" or "former Marine" because Marines are inculcated with the ethos "Once a Marine, always a Marine". The terms "former" or "ex" refer to something that once was, but is no longer as Col Wesley L. Fox, USMC (Ret.) states in the welcoming theater video at the National Museum of the Marine Corps.

Veteran Marine refers to an individual that completed their service and has received an honorable or general discharge from the service (visit [1] and see Veteran Marine). Marines who have retired are commonly called "retired Marines". However, addressing any veteran Marine, "Marine", which they still are, is appropriate. Veteran Marines may be addressed as "Sir" or "Ma'am" out of respect, or, according to the "Commandant's White letters" from Commandant General Gray until present, by their earned rank.[50]

Marines who have disgraced the Corps and Marines who receive a dishonorable discharge are referred to as "ex-Marines" or "former Marines".

Strange, where did you pull that from? I'd be hesistant to use such a term such as veteran due to the literal meaning of the word. I've been taught to use former as well by veteran/former Marines....
The fail safe would to just address the man or woman as a Marine, regardless of age. OORAH!

 

[Focus]

Nope jsut swearing into DEP. I ship to boot camp sept 17th.

And good luck at boot bro. Paris Island will make you tougher than ever!
Army/Navy not for me,
Air force was just too easy!
I needed something with a little bit more,
I needed a life that was hardcore!
Paris Island is where it all began,
A little rock, with lots of sand!

 

[Focus]

It's strange that the Marines are few and scattered, but Army is so diverse and dynamic. Not one voter has hit the Army option as of yet.
I do indeed respect Army to an incredible degree, and the same for Navy and USAF. But I just don't see how some people can honestly believe the Army the best department. Maybe this board is just that much smarter than my ROTC buddies!

 

[NordicNacho]

What about the Coast Guard? Some of those guys are pretty hard core.

 

[maniclion]

Well if you love physical challenges like hiking five miles with a 50 pound pack then the Army or Marines are for you, if you thrive on cerebral challenges like 90 days at sea on a cramped ship trying to keep your mind together while circling in a gulf where an enemy mine could blow out your berthing compartment as you lie dreaming to death then go Navy. Trust me you can get some action even aboard a ship I got to board several suspect vessels on my deployment, I got to handle a gun and face the fear of someone popping up in the dank dark bilges of those vessels, I've had tense situations where I had to yell at some people hiding under a tarp and a man fleeing down a passageway. My ship was fired upon by a motorboat, I was walking to chow at that time and heard the plink of bullets on the steel bulkhead, then I heard the .50 cal return fire, the gunner just clipped them because he had to run to his post from inside the midship where he was signing into the watch log as chow relief, they probably took his absence as their chance to approach and fire, they must have thought the same the the attackers of the Cole thought, that that was the most vulnerable spot on the ship. Those bullets hit the same area the Cole was later ripped open at ...I flew in helicopters many times to retrieve our crypto from the Connie, the same helicopters that I'd just recently watch one of drop from the sky with a pallet of our food during an unrep (underway replenishment) the same type of copter we had too make rapid advancement into possible mine infested water as close to the Kuwaiti shore as possible as it was having engine trouble and might not have made it all the way out to the Connie. That was tense especially when the Captain came over the 1MC and briefed us that their was a very high chance that this lame duck may crash onto the deck of our ship. That old girl is now the ship designated for testing the ballistic missile shoot down in the exosphere, you know the one where it's like hitting a bullet with a bullet, how much more important can a ship get when it is the ones who will be called if ever a nation fired on us with a ballistic nuke?

 

[min0 lee]

Well if you love physical challenges like hiking five miles with a 50 pound pack then the Army or Marines are for you, if you thrive on cerebral challenges like 90 days at sea on a cramped ship trying to keep your mind together while circling in a gulf where an enemy mine could blow out your berthing compartment as you lie dreaming to death then go Navy. Trust me you can get some action even aboard a ship I got to board several suspect vessels on my deployment, I got to handle a gun and face the fear of someone popping up in the dank dark bilges of those vessels, I've had tense situations where I had to yell at some people hiding under a tarp and a man fleeing down a passageway. My ship was fired upon by a motorboat, I was walking to chow at that time and heard the plink of bullets on the steel bulkhead, then I heard the .50 cal return fire, the gunner just clipped them because he had to run to his post from inside the midship where he was signing into the watch log as chow relief, they probably took his absence as their chance to approach and fire, they must have thought the same the the attackers of the Cole thought, that that was the most vulnerable spot on the ship. Those bullets hit the same area the Cole was later ripped open at ...I flew in helicopters many times to retrieve our crypto from the Connie, the same helicopters that I'd just recently watch one of drop from the sky with a pallet of our food during an unrep (underway replenishment) the same type of copter we had too make rapid advancement into possible mine infested water as close to the Kuwaiti shore as possible as it was having engine trouble and might not have made it all the way out to the Connie. That was tense especially when the Captain came over the 1MC and briefed us that their was a very high chance that this lame duck may crash onto the deck of our ship. That old girl is now the ship designated for testing the ballistic missile shoot down in the exosphere, you know the one where it's like hitting a bullet with a bullet, how much more important can a ship get when it is the ones who will be called if ever a nation fired on us with a ballistic nuke?

What he said.

 

[largepkg]

Nope jsut swearing into DEP. I ship to boot camp sept 17th.

I've got serious respect for you kid!

 

[Focus]

What about the Coast Guard? Some of those guys are pretty hard core.

Absolutely - A friend of mine was telling me how difficult the training was. "Swim till you sweat" he was telling me, and he meant it literally.

 

[goandykid]

Just got back from swearing in at MEPS. Here's my POV, to clarify earlier threads when people were saying only retards and scumbags join the military, or at least a lot of them.

Today there was about 50 other people there, including 5 women. I'd say about 25 of those were going into the Army, 12 Marine Corp, 1 CG, 4 AF, 3 NG, and 6 or so Navy.

The main branch that had people recommitting while I was there was the Army, about 3 of them total. All ahd been out of the service for a while.

One recommit in the USMC, and one guy switching from the "shithole" Navy as he called it to CG. Apparently he didnt like the living accomodations ro smelling like grease and seawater 6 months at a time.

I only saw one true retard, and I mean retard. It mustve been a fluke ASVAB score, but he got accepted by the Army. There were a couple others that toed the line, and all were trying to enter the Army.

By far, a much more intelligent group of people than many people like to think. I probably had a conversation or at least heard over a group discussion from about half of them, and only the main retard made me cringe to think that he may play some role in our Nation's defense.

Side note, 2 of the 5 girls were cute, 1 of which deff qualifies as hot.

All but a few recruits were under 25. The process started at 5:30, meaing I ahd to leave at 4am, and I jsut got home now, at 4:30. Lots of emdical shit, then backround screening stuff, and about 5 hours combined of sitting there being bored and having to poop.

 

[americanwit]

Do you know what ARMY stands for?
Arn't Ready for Marines Yet!

 

[BigDyl]

Just got back from swearing in at MEPS. Here's my POV, to clarify earlier threads when people were saying only retards and scumbags join the military, or at least a lot of them.

Today there was about 50 other people there, including 5 women. I'd say about 25 of those were going into the Army, 12 Marine Corp, 1 CG, 4 AF, 3 NG, and 6 or so Navy.

The main branch that had people recommitting while I was there was the Army, about 3 of them total. All ahd been out of the service for a while.

One recommit in the USMC, and one guy switching from the "shithole" Navy as he called it to CG. Apparently he didnt like the living accomodations ro smelling like grease and seawater 6 months at a time.

I only saw one true retard, and I mean retard. It mustve been a fluke ASVAB score, but he got accepted by the Army. There were a couple others that toed the line, and all were trying to enter the Army.

By far, a much more intelligent group of people than many people like to think. I probably had a conversation or at least heard over a group discussion from about half of them, and only the main retard made me cringe to think that he may play some role in our Nation's defense.

Side note, 2 of the 5 girls were cute, 1 of which deff qualifies as hot.

All but a few recruits were under 25. The process started at 5:30, meaing I ahd to leave at 4am, and I jsut got home now, at 4:30. Lots of emdical shit, then backround screening stuff, and about 5 hours combined of sitting there being bored and having to poop.

Get down and give me 200 maggot!

 

[devildog88]

I have been checking in now and then but you guys knew I couldn't let this one slip by. As a former Marine you know what my vote is. There is no other branch in the world, with the exception of the Rok Marines perhaps, with a richer degree of tradition than the USMC. All of the bracnches are honorable, but a Marine is far and above all of them. I agree it is not for everyone, and if asked, I don't think you would find a Jarhead out there that would want just anyone. We are a special breed of people that thrive on doing what we do. We are the original Brotherhood! Oooooooh Rahhhhh!
Semper Fi

 

[maniclion]

The process started at 5:30, meaing I ahd to leave at 4am, and I jsut got home now, at 4:30. Lots of emdical shit, then backround screening stuff, and about 5 hours combined of sitting there being bored and having to poop.

Ain't nothin' wait til you get to basic and they keep your ass up 36 hours straight after a long flight......don't drink the day before you go, just sleep like cat...and wait until they get your ass up at 3:30 in the morning and drill you. The first few weeks you'll want to quit, you'll be like "What have I done...", but once you get past that it's all smooth.....

I hope you are running a lot now and doing push-ups cause the more you can do now the easier life will be...

 

[bigss75]

Much respect goandykid for joining the Marines. Don't come into boot camp with the high and tight or any USMC related tats or they will smoke your ass.

 

[goandykid]

Finally, an Army vote.

Where ya been Invanry?

 

[fufu]

Ain't nothin' wait til you get to basic and they keep your ass up 36 hours straight after a long flight......don't drink the day before you go, just sleep like cat...and wait until they get your ass up at 3:30 in the morning and drill you. The first few weeks you'll want to quit, you'll be like "What have I done...", but once you get past that it's all smooth.....

I hope you are running a lot now and doing push-ups cause the more you can do now the easier life will be...

Truths, that is what my friend said it is like. Eventually they will grant you privelages after they own you for a while.

 

[goandykid]

Strange, where did you pull that from? I'd be hesistant to use such a term such as veteran due to the literal meaning of the word. I've been taught to use former as well by veteran/former Marines....
The fail safe would to just address the man or woman as a Marine, regardless of age. OORAH!

wikipedia, and I've heard the term former Marine used as well. Just thought the article was interesting, I dont plan on using the term "Veteran Marine". Never even ehard anyone else use it.

 

[goandykid]

I hope you are running a lot now and doing push-ups cause the more you can do now the easier life will be...

You think? I figure I have about 7 more months till basic, I was gonna keep working on mass for about 4 1/2 months, then use the last bit towards running, pushups, pullups, etc. Compared physically to some of the other individuals at MEPS, I'd say I'm ahead of the curve.

 

[ALBOB]

#1 Air Force - I'm biased. Did 23 years.

#2 Marines - You can't find a more proud branch with damn good reason to be proud.

#3 Navy - Actual jobs are about the same as Air Force, but you have to do them out to sea for six to twelve months at a time.

#4 (Only as a last resort) Army - They have some great history to be proud of, but they're treated like dirt and most of them end up acting that way.[/quote]


Why is it that they get little respect? Is it because it's the easiest to get in?

That's more a symptom than the disease. The Army has a lower standard for enlistment because they have to recruit more troops. They have to recruite more troops becasue they have the highest turnover rate of any service. They have the highest turnover rate because the jobs pretty much suck. Not matter what you choose to do in the Army your always gonna be a bullet catcher. That's just a simple fact. Add to that the fact that they don't treat you very well and you have a hell of a lot of troops getting out after their first enlistment.

 

[Witmaster]

wikipedia, and I've heard the term former Marine used as well. Just thought the article was interesting, I dont plan on using the term "Veteran Marine". Never even ehard anyone else use it.

Me neither.

Hell all my guys in my Unit still refer to me as "Marine". It's cool.

 

[goandykid]

You think? I figure I have about 7 more months till basic, I was gonna keep working on mass for about 4 1/2 months, then use the last bit towards running, pushups, pullups, etc. Compared physically to some of the other individuals at MEPS, I'd say I'm ahead of the curve.

?

 

[Mr8tyme]

Definitely the United States Air Force

 

[ABCs]

You think? I figure I have about 7 more months till basic, I was gonna keep working on mass for about 4 1/2 months, then use the last bit towards running, pushups, pullups, etc. Compared physically to some of the other individuals at MEPS, I'd say I'm ahead of the curve.

I am no expert. but that sounds like a good plan. With all of the cardio you will be doing in basic, your bound to lose some mass and fat anyway so building all that mass for 7 months might end up just going to waste. USing that last bit to get your body use to what you are going to end up doing every day anyway will be good IMO.

 

[goandykid]

I am no expert. but that sounds like a good plan. With all of the cardio you will be doing in basic, your bound to lose some mass and fat anyway so building all that mass for 7 months might end up just going to waste. USing that last bit to get your body use to what you are going to end up doing every day anyway will be good IMO.

But I cant see anyone losing that much LBM or strength while in basic. If anything, wouldnt you put on muscle?

 

[Burner02]

in basic? Nope.

 

[goandykid]

in basic? Nope.

It was an or question, not a yes or no.

 

[maniclion]

But I cant see anyone losing that much LBM or strength while in basic. If anything, wouldnt you put on muscle?

2 month's of hardcore cardio and not much if any weight training, you're not gonna lose much....I went straight from basic to training with the SEAL's and gained all of my strength back in no time...

 

[ALBOB]

But I cant see anyone losing that much LBM or strength while in basic. If anything, wouldnt you put on muscle?

You'll get three good meals a day in boot camp, but that's it. You won't be taking in enough calories to put on mass. Like has been said, you'll probably lose some mass. That's actually a good thing in Marine boot camp. Most of the exercises you're looking at are body weight exercises; sit ups, push ups, pull ups, etc. The guys carrying around the most mass are at a distinct disadvantage. It's the lighter guys who have an easier time of it.

 

[BigDyl]

How is there even big/ripped guys in the miltary then?

3 meals won't do it.

 

[maniclion]

How is there even big/ripped guys in the miltary then?

3 meals won't do it.

After basic you can eat whenever you want...basic is the only time you're limited to 3 meals....and the shitty part is you only get 5 minutes usually to eat...