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Mark McGwire Goes on Hall of Fame Ballot

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Pete was awesome, and this is coming from someone who hated him.

He body slammed Buddy Harrelson in '73, when I saw that I was pissed off.:laugh:
It was a while ago, the only thing I can really recall was that fight, Tom Seaver (Favorite pitcher) and Willie Mays arguing at the plate....then the Mets losing to the A's in the WS.
The A's of the 70's were awesome.
 
Interesting little tidbit. Of the 755 homeruns Hank Aaron hit only 1 was an inside the park homerun
I don't recall him being a fast runner, but then again I saw him when he was already past his prime.
 
I wouldn't say he is slow he ranks 227th all time in steals with 240 over his career.
 
I wouldn't say he is slow he ranks 227th all time in steals with 240 over his career.
Then that is odd? I guess it really is hard to get one.

I do love watching players hit them, sometimes it's funny seeing some of them gasping for air.
 
Don Mattingly--no. sorry Donnie, if only your back didn't give out you would have been a shoo-in.

Gwynn was truly awesome, and so was Mattingly!
 
Gwynn was truly awesome, and so was Mattingly!
He was awesome, but it was really sad to see him lose his power.
He was never the same hitter he was after his back went out.

I will say this though, there are not too many who can play first base like he can.

He had a great personality.
 
Why did Woody leave cold pizza?
 
I hope Woody Paige chokes on a donut! What does that fat ass know?!?! He doesnt deserve to be there!!! Thats like saying Hitler wasnt a cruel dictator. I think it is very obvious he should be there, but the big question will be the steroids issue.

Oh and Pete Rose should be there for sure, he played the game with a ridiculous passion!!!
 
I hope Woody Paige chokes on a donut! What does that fat ass know?!?! He doesnt deserve to be there!!! Thats like saying Hitler wasnt a cruel dictator. I think it is very obvious he should be there, but the big question will be the steroids issue.

Oh and Pete Rose should be there for sure, he played the game with a ridiculous passion!!!

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In addition to that, there's the Mark McGwire steroids issue and the questions of just how much support he'll get. But if we can put the steroids aside for a moment, there are a lot of baseball historians as well as voting members of the Baseball Writers Association who maintain that, his 583 homers notwithstanding, McGwire should not be an automatic first-ballot electee. Indeed, the case can be made that, as a barely adequate first baseman who had only 1,626 hits, McGwire was a one-dimensional player. I have always looked at 2,000 hits as a benchmark for the Hall of Fame.
Case in point: One might say Reggie Jackson was a one-dimensional player, especially since he struck out more than any player in the history of the game and had his share of shaky moments in right field. But for all his strikeouts, Jackson also had 2,584 hits, 958 more than McGwire. And while perceived light-hitting shortstops such as Ozzie Smith, Dave Concepcion and Larry Bowa were all noted for their fielding, all of them had more than 2,000 hits. The Hall of Fame slugger most compared to McGwire in terms of being one-dimensional is Harmon Killebrew, a below-average third baseman/first baseman who had 573 homers, leading the AL six times. But Killebrew's .256 average is the lowest of any Hall of Famer except catcher Ray Schalk (.253) and because of that, plus his inferior fielding, I didn't vote for Killebrew. But at least he did have 2,086 hits and that was undoubtedly a helpful factor in his being elected to the Hall on his fourth year of eligibility in 1984.

That's not a lot of hits for the big guy.......
 
He had a great personality.

On TV and interviews, we met him at a baseball thing and he had the holier than thou attitude. I still think he should be in the Hall though. Same with Mattingly, Ripken, and Rice. Next year, I think McGwire will probably get in.

The 2009 guys are pretty set with Henderson, Grace, and Palmer
 
Did Reggie seriously have the most strikeouts? I look at Mike Schmidt and go bonkers, that guy swung at everything.

I was more into hitters, Gwynn, Mattingly, Boggs - etc
 
Did Reggie seriously have the most strikeouts? I look at Mike Schmidt and go bonkers, that guy swung at everything.

I was more into hitters, Gwynn, Mattingly, Boggs - etc

The second most striekouts is Stargell who's in the Hall of Fame too. I guess when you do will come playoff time everyone forgets about it
 
How is it determined who is considered for the Hall of Fame. Sportswriters?

The baseball HOF is a joke, how is Devon White on the list for voting
 
yea, the sports writers vote in on who they think is deserving.
 
They need to change this hall of fame shit, too many bums are getting chance to be considered, and it isn't even baseball. Hockey is the same way.
 
MLB should be standing behind McGwire, feeding him grapes. Baseball would still be in the shitter if it wasn't for that home run race. As much as baseball is coming down on the steroid scandal, it is the one thing that saved them from that strike.

You could argue that brought them out of the shitter and returned them as well.
 
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Any news on Pete Rose? I havent had a chance to read anything, including the majority of this thread.
 
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Rose has no chance at all. What really hurt his chances even more is the fact that he denied betting for all those years and then he comes out with a book confessing he did.
 
It's a crime Jim Rice is not in there and it's a bigger crime the fans of Boston don't make it a bigger issue.
 
I think Mark will get in eventually. Alot don't get in the first time and look who he was up against.
 
Even more of a joke, is Rich Gossage has not been voted in in 8 attempts. But it is expected he will next year cause of the weak ballot. If he can't make it on a strong ballot, then he shouldn't make it on a weak ballot.
 
Even more of a joke, is Rich Gossage has not been voted in in 8 attempts. But it is expected he will next year cause of the weak ballot. If he can't make it on a strong ballot, then he shouldn't make it on a weak ballot.

yea. I couldn't believe he and Jim Rice didn't get in. They were close. They got like 71 or 22% of the vote. You need a 75% though.
 
They need to change this hall of fame shit, too many bums are getting chance to be considered, and it isn't even baseball. Hockey is the same way.

they need to have current members vote who gets in. forget the damn sports writters who know absolutely shit about sports yet get puffed up in their own opinions anyways
 
McGwire needs to get in. I dont think he deserved a first ballot for the things he did. Everyone knows he did it, just like everyone knows OJ did it. However, theres also the aspect of him and Sammy bringing baseball back to life after the strike. Baseball owes McGwire atleast that. Without that season, who knows if people would have came back. That was a remarkable season.

These are probably the same dumb asses who gave the MVP to Howard instead of Puljos, give me a break!
 
Screw McGuire.
 
they need to have current members vote who gets in. forget the damn sports writters who know absolutely shit about sports yet get puffed up in their own opinions anyways

Mike and Mike on ESPN Radio interviewed a writer/voter yesterday. The guy said he will not vote anyone in on the first ballot out of principle, because the original class that included Babe Ruth did not get unanimously elected. Assholes like that should have their voting priveleges revoked. They are suppose to vote on whether or not a guy is worthy, not use your own set of moral standards to make a guy wait. Pathetic. I hate people.
 
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