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Methoxy--has it ever been tested/studied?
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Good question!
here is what EAS has on their product page:
A scientific study showed that Ecdysterone may increase lean muscle tissue by 7% and decrease body fat by an average of 10% in just 10 days. Taken with a protein-rich meal, Methoxy Factor HP helps optimize protein synthesis for enhanced lean muscle mass.
here is a link if you want to read this page:
http://www.snd-uk.com/gnc.nsf/9c740865156334ac80256a29004cc2dc/ec385bd030b7834c80256a10003298fd
here is what EAS has on their product page:
A scientific study showed that Ecdysterone may increase lean muscle tissue by 7% and decrease body fat by an average of 10% in just 10 days. Taken with a protein-rich meal, Methoxy Factor HP helps optimize protein synthesis for enhanced lean muscle mass.
here is a link if you want to read this page:
http://www.snd-uk.com/gnc.nsf/9c740865156334ac80256a29004cc2dc/ec385bd030b7834c80256a10003298fd
Yeah, but notice that EAS's Methoxy Factor HP "...is a combination of two highly anabolic compounds ??? Beta-Ecdysterone and 5-Methy-7-Methoxy-Isoflavone..." which means that the Beta-Ecdysterone is a DIFFERENT substance than the Methoxy. EAS provides citations for the Beta-Ecdysterone and then skips any verification of Methoxy at all.
Yes,there have been actual clinical studies done on methoxy.They were done in Europe many years ago when one specific company was looking for a natural anabolic compound.They found almost "steroid loike" results with methoxy,but soon afterward abandoned the project for I'm not sure what reason.Has this study ever been replicated...no.I believe the name of the company was called Chinion.Anyway,you may be able to do a search to find more info on the actual study/results.
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i have read a two articles in muscular development magazine a while back, and they concluded, that these compounds are very questionable in having any measurable effect.
Cytrix...I have never personally tried Methoxy,but know a few people that said they did get some measurable results.My advice would be to take it for about 6-8 weeks,with no other changes to your program,and monitor results.That is really the only way to see if it works for YOU.It does have some good research behind it,but that DOES NOT mean it will work in the real world.
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I have been using it for a whole year & no change. I think it is a waste of money.
I have alot of friends that say that NITRO
TECH IS supposed to be very good !The methoxy-pro costs $28 bucks a pop.Big waste of money I say.
Tastes good though!
My advice would be to not waste your hard earned money on it unless your rich & loaded
I have alot of friends that say that NITRO
TECH IS supposed to be very good !The methoxy-pro costs $28 bucks a pop.Big waste of money I say.
Tastes good though!My advice would be to not waste your hard earned money on it unless your rich & loaded
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Was the weight from water. I can gain alot of weight in 1 day due to water retention. Its pretty hard to gain 5 solid pounds of muscle,naturally, in one month unless someone is juicing.
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5ounds of muscle in one month is Extremely difficulf . What types of workouts were you doing. The normal average muscle gain for a natural bodybuilder is 1/2 a pound of muscle a week,if everything is done right. I have been bodybuilding & lifting weights for years & can only gain 5 to 7 pounds in a year. Look at all the big time bodybuilders , they averagely gain 10 lbs a year.
One year they will weigh 250 on stage & the next year maybe 260lbs. Whatever your doing is great. I need some of that. Lets
calculate. 5 lbs a week equals 20lbs a month. If you did something wrong then maybe you will gain 10lbs a month.Damn , if you gained 10lbs a month for 12 months then that means you could gain 120lbs a year. I say in the ext two years you will be Mr. Olympia. . Its hard to believe that 5 lbs a month of actual muscle with just Methoxy pro can be atained.
Maybe though . IMO I think Methoxy pro is a crock of shi....
About a year ago Methoxy pro was advertised in all the magazines. I got the new flex magazine & it is not in there once.
The only protein that is holding its weight is Nitro tech . I am sure you know how to do a bodyfat test
but sometimes they can be a little misleading.
One year they will weigh 250 on stage & the next year maybe 260lbs. Whatever your doing is great. I need some of that. Lets
calculate. 5 lbs a week equals 20lbs a month. If you did something wrong then maybe you will gain 10lbs a month.Damn , if you gained 10lbs a month for 12 months then that means you could gain 120lbs a year. I say in the ext two years you will be Mr. Olympia. . Its hard to believe that 5 lbs a month of actual muscle with just Methoxy pro can be atained.
Maybe though . IMO I think Methoxy pro is a crock of shi....
About a year ago Methoxy pro was advertised in all the magazines. I got the new flex magazine & it is not in there once.
The only protein that is holding its weight is Nitro tech . I am sure you know how to do a bodyfat test
but sometimes they can be a little misleading.
Gym Guru...first let me say that I didn't say it was me that gained the 5 pounds, but one of my employees(he is a personal trainer). He has been training for about 5 years, so he is somewhat experienced. He really did gain 5 solid pounds in one month off of Cytodyne's Methoxypro, but that does not mean that every month he will continue to gain another 5 lbs. Perhaps methoxyisoflavone does have a positive effect in some and not others...and perhaps he was just an extreme case. I did not intend to use his gains as total and absolute proof that methoxy is a great supplement, but just to say that perhaps it shouldn't be dismissed completely. Hey, the first time I took creatine I gained like 12 pounds the first month, but since then, never have repeated those gains...although I still love the stuff. Anyway, I hope that clears it up 4 you Guru.
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Your right on the hammer. I do feel that many supplements work & some work better for others. I just did not get any gains & I am bitter for spending all my loot. I'm sure your buddy did have some gains & I did not mean to be such a di@khead. My bad. Keep up the great working. Hey by the way,how is your buddy doing in the personal trainnig business. I am planning on doing it on the side once I GET OF my lazy butte & get my license.
Guru...no problem my friend...
My buddy actually works for me as I own a personal training studio for the past 3 years. I have been a trainer full time for about 10 years now, and I really enjoy it. It can be tough at times, but I love helping people. If you work hard you can make good $.
My buddy actually works for me as I own a personal training studio for the past 3 years. I have been a trainer full time for about 10 years now, and I really enjoy it. It can be tough at times, but I love helping people. If you work hard you can make good $.
this what a buddy of mine posted once on a different board
Understand that most protein
powders are nothing more than a concentrate of
macronutrients and some micronutrients.<br> This is a good place
to start my final topic. Some protein powders are
more than food concentrates. Some companies have began
to add various supplements into their protein mix
including but not limited to ephedrine, caffeine,
methoxyisoflavone, ipriflavone, creatine, d-pinitol, and HMB. Be
wary of these products because these additions often
jack up the price considerably, for minuscule dosages
of the ingredients. Some companies also add creatine
under less familiar name. For instance, MethoxyPro by
CytoDyne Technologies adds creatine to their formula, but
they list it as N-methyl-N-guanylglycine. Therefore
the user adds additional weight (from the creatine
uptake), and credits the protein for these gains.
Understand that most protein
powders are nothing more than a concentrate of
macronutrients and some micronutrients.<br> This is a good place
to start my final topic. Some protein powders are
more than food concentrates. Some companies have began
to add various supplements into their protein mix
including but not limited to ephedrine, caffeine,
methoxyisoflavone, ipriflavone, creatine, d-pinitol, and HMB. Be
wary of these products because these additions often
jack up the price considerably, for minuscule dosages
of the ingredients. Some companies also add creatine
under less familiar name. For instance, MethoxyPro by
CytoDyne Technologies adds creatine to their formula, but
they list it as N-methyl-N-guanylglycine. Therefore
the user adds additional weight (from the creatine
uptake), and credits the protein for these gains.
Im also pretty sure nitro tech does this too.
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There is currently a "class action suit" against both Methoxy and Liquid Creatine.........should show up in a search here!
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