Michael Jackson memorial

[T_man]

True, I liked his music but that was years ago. Now I would never be cuaght listening to it on my car stereo cruising down the streets of NY.
You know who they say was really good too...James Brown kid.
If you look at the way James Brown moves you'll notice MJ copied a few moves.

But the way you blindly defend him....it's sounds like you idolize him and in the lords eyes you have sinned.
I guess you'll be keeping MJ company in hell.

i told u im not even that big a fan. I'm just defending him because you're saying he isnt that big compared to some other people. Well he is. He might not be as important in your interests and you might have other artists who you think are big but in this world there was no artist supported as much as MJ. Maybe elvis came close but he only appealed to americans/brits. Elsewhere, over the whole world it was MJ. I'm not idolising him i'm just stating how big he was which you cant clearly see. He appeals to people who listen to all kinds of music, from heavy death black metal to rap and hip hop. I personally listen to rap n hip hop mainly, and like Michael Jackson, but my brother listens to the heaviest metal around (yea weird me and him grew in the same house!) and he listens to michael jackson as well.
My mum grew up in Kenya and her mum was against TV, but they bought one just to watch MJ, and all the neighbours used to come round just to watch him. This is just one of the examples. I don't see any other artist coming close to MJ's fans (not die hards but just anyone who enjoys his music).


But anyways yea I like james brown. I was coming back from work yesterday with some workmates and they played this james brown cd which i hadnt listened to in a while. it was a really good jam

 

[Keylan]

I think once his ex-accusers grow a little older the truth will come out about him, then we'll be able to speculate on his legendary status, I don't foresee his music ranking in the area of genius that Bach, Handel, Monk, Coltrane, Hendrix, Sun Ra, Zappa, Floyd are in, maybe as far as Top of the Pop Chart Collections with his contemporaries he will last but those guys are a whole other level of musical composition, they were composers above all else, they performed great too but they had true talent in building music......

you're right about these guys having talent. it's possible however that handel might not have considered the Hallelujah Chorus to be his best work. as far as your "dumbed down" comments you should probably know that MJ, Elvis, Miles and Madonna have been studied in college music programs already. who'd a thunk we as a civilization would apex into a society rendering such eloquent a verse as "Every valley shall be exalted" or "for sadness now bedims my eyes" with the same reverence as "beat it. hee hee" and "come on let's vogue".

 

[maniclion]

you're right about these guys having talent. it's possible however that handel might not have considered the Hallelujah Chorus to be his best work. as far as your "dumbed down" comments you should probably know that MJ, Elvis, Miles and Madonna have been studied in college music programs already. who'd a thunk we as a civilization would apex into a society rendering such eloquent a verse as "Every valley shall be exalted" or "for sadness now bedims my eyes" with the same reverence as "beat it. hee hee" and "come on let's vogue".

Porn, the Smurfs, Philosophy of Star Trek, Queer Musicology, etc, have or one day will be studied as some college course, that's what college is for to explore things, maybe the lesson on MJ is how to reach millions of people with out really saying anything at all......

 

[min0 lee]

i told u im not even that big a fan. I'm just defending him because you're saying he isnt that big compared to some other people. Well he is. He might not be as important in your interests and you might have other artists who you think are big but in this world there was no artist supported as much as MJ. Maybe elvis came close but he only appealed to americans/brits. Elsewhere, over the whole world it was MJ. I'm not idolising him i'm just stating how big he was which you cant clearly see. He appeals to people who listen to all kinds of music, from heavy death black metal to rap and hip hop. I personally listen to rap n hip hop mainly, and like Michael Jackson, but my brother listens to the heaviest metal around (yea weird me and him grew in the same house!) and he listens to michael jackson as well.
My mum grew up in Kenya and her mum was against TV, but they bought one just to watch MJ, and all the neighbours used to come round just to watch him. This is just one of the examples. I don't see any other artist coming close to MJ's fans (not die hards but just anyone who enjoys his music).But anyways yea I like james brown. I was coming back from work yesterday with some workmates and they played this james brown cd which i hadnt listened to in a while. it was a really good jam

the problem you have is that you only listen to yourself.
I clearly stated that I liked his music but unfortunately the accusations will leave a stain on his legacy which if you haven't noticed by they already started from day one...worldwide.
But enough already, people went over board with his death especially the media.

He was great but not the greatest. Your talking to someone who danced to his music and grew up. Which I know you didn't.

Try not to distort things, if I make fun of him it's because that's me.

If I die I would love people to make fun of me and laugh, I don't want no crying....I don't want people to feel like crap. I want them to know I lived a good life and I am finally at rest.

 

[ROID]

THE MOTHER FUCKER FUCKED KIDS.

you dumb queers. LETS WORSHIP HIM.... guys i'm losing respect for the board with these type post even though i didnt read any of them. JACKSON NEEDED TO DIE. FUCK HIM.

u don't fuck with children. i'm so upset right now. maybe it's because my step dad made me do those things..............maybe its because i see why you're in a forum and feeling sorry for a piece of GOD DAMN SHIT NIGGER that made too much fucking money.


go ahead and fucking ban me

 

[Keylan]

THE MOTHER FUCKER FUCKED KIDS.

you dumb queers. LETS WORSHIP HIM.... guys i'm losing respect for the board with these type post even though i didnt read any of them. JACKSON NEEDED TO DIE. FUCK HIM.

u don't fuck with children. i'm so upset right now. maybe it's because my step dad made me do those things..............maybe its because i see why you're in a forum and feeling sorry for a piece of GOD DAMN SHIT NIGGER that made too much fucking money.


go ahead and fucking ban me

impressive. AND spoken like a true red-blooded latent homo

 

[Burner02]

Just a little spin of perspective....

This is written by a young man serving his third tour of duty in Iraq.
Thought you might find his take on the Michael Jackson news interesting.

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Okay, I need to rant.

I was just watching the news, and I caught part of a report on Michael Jackson. As we all know, Jackson died the other day. He was an entertainer who performed for decades. He made millions, he spent millions, and he did a lot of things that make him a villian to many people. I understand that his death would affect a lot of people, and I respect those people who mourn his death, but that isn't the point of my rant.

Why is it that when ONE man dies, the whole of America loses their minds with grief. When a man dies whose only contribution to the country was to ENTERTAIN people, the Amercian people find the need to flock to a memorial in Hollywood, and even Congress sees the need to hold a "moment of silence" for his passing?

Am I missing something here? ONE man dies, and all of a sudden he's a freaking martyr because he entertained us for a few decades? What about all those SOLDIERS who have died to give us freedom? All those Soldiers who, knowing that they would be asked to fight in a war, still raised their hands and swore to defend the Constitution and the United States of America. Where is their moment of silence? Where are the people flocking to their graves or memorials and mourning over them because they made the ultimate sacrifice? Why is it when a Soldier dies, there are more people saying "good riddance," and "thank God for IEDs?" When did this country become so calloused to the sacrifice of GOOD MEN and WOMEN, that they can arbitrarily blow off their deaths, and instead, throw themselves into mourning for a "Pop Icon?"

I think that if they are going to hold a moment of silence IN CONGRESS for Michael Jackson, they need to hold a moment of silence for every service member killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. They need to PUBLICLY recognize every life that has been lost so that the American people can live their callous little lives in the luxury and freedom that WE, those that are living and those that have gone on, have provided for them. But, wait, that would take too much time, because there have been so many willing to make that sacrifice. After all, we will never make millions of dollars. We will never star in movies, or write hit songs that the world will listen too. We only shed our blood, sweat and tears so that people can enjoy what they have.

Sorry if I have offended, but I needed to say it.
Remember these five words the next time you think of someone who is serving in the military;

"So that others may live..."

Isaac

 

[T_man]

Just a little spin of perspective....

This is written by a young man serving his third tour of duty in Iraq.
Thought you might find his take on the Michael Jackson news interesting.

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Okay, I need to rant.

I was just watching the news, and I caught part of a report on Michael Jackson. As we all know, Jackson died the other day. He was an entertainer who performed for decades. He made millions, he spent millions, and he did a lot of things that make him a villian to many people. I understand that his death would affect a lot of people, and I respect those people who mourn his death, but that isn't the point of my rant.

Why is it that when ONE man dies, the whole of America loses their minds with grief. When a man dies whose only contribution to the country was to ENTERTAIN people, the Amercian people find the need to flock to a memorial in Hollywood, and even Congress sees the need to hold a "moment of silence" for his passing?

Am I missing something here? ONE man dies, and all of a sudden he's a freaking martyr because he entertained us for a few decades? What about all those SOLDIERS who have died to give us freedom? All those Soldiers who, knowing that they would be asked to fight in a war, still raised their hands and swore to defend the Constitution and the United States of America. Where is their moment of silence? Where are the people flocking to their graves or memorials and mourning over them because they made the ultimate sacrifice? Why is it when a Soldier dies, there are more people saying "good riddance," and "thank God for IEDs?" When did this country become so calloused to the sacrifice of GOOD MEN and WOMEN, that they can arbitrarily blow off their deaths, and instead, throw themselves into mourning for a "Pop Icon?"

I think that if they are going to hold a moment of silence IN CONGRESS for Michael Jackson, they need to hold a moment of silence for every service member killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. They need to PUBLICLY recognize every life that has been lost so that the American people can live their callous little lives in the luxury and freedom that WE, those that are living and those that have gone on, have provided for them. But, wait, that would take too much time, because there have been so many willing to make that sacrifice. After all, we will never make millions of dollars. We will never star in movies, or write hit songs that the world will listen too. We only shed our blood, sweat and tears so that people can enjoy what they have.

Sorry if I have offended, but I needed to say it.
Remember these five words the next time you think of someone who is serving in the military;

"So that others may live..."

Isaac

Okay I think this is a fair point BUT. I'll pull out a double standards ting. You spend all year round mocking iraq and the politicians who iniciated it, and I think there is more hate for the iraq/afghan wars than there was for protestors, but yet we need to mourn soldiers who go to foreign countries, kill many innocent people all for a BS reason which covers the ultimate goal of oil & personal riches for big companies and politicians?? I'm not saying we shouldn't, infact I think that their lives are precious and being wasted for riches, which is sad, but they are not doing as much for the country as you think. Just because it's a war doesn't mean its justified.

People in wars which actually were for freedom, such as WW1 & 2 have their memorials broadcasted on air, and a moment of silence every year througout our whole country here. I think there was much more appreciation for that then MJ.

And if you're going to use that logic, then all celebs should be mocked & hated for just being famous. They act, play music n shit, entertain the world yet there are firefighters dying saving people and policemen shot in the line of fire. The day you start mourning every policeman and loathing every celeb who has not done anything major then you can come to me with that reasoning.

 

[T_man]

the problem you have is that you only listen to yourself.
I clearly stated that I liked his music but unfortunately the accusations will leave a stain on his legacy which if you haven't noticed by they already started from day one...worldwide.
But enough already, people went over board with his death especially the media.

He was great but not the greatest. Your talking to someone who danced to his music and grew up. Which I know you didn't.

Try not to distort things, if I make fun of him it's because that's me.

If I die I would love people to make fun of me and laugh, I don't want no crying....I don't want people to feel like crap. I want them to know I lived a good life and I am finally at rest.

I am listening and you're the one not listening. I am saying yes, it did stain, but when someone dies you forget the bad things they did and remember the good, if the good outweighed the bad. And the bad was only just accusations as far as we're all concerned nobody knows what went on in there, and there's enough reason for the ball to roll down either side of the hill.

No min0, people are not making fun and laughing. They are taking the piss, making a mockery, and even if you say you wouldn't mind that i know you would hate it.

Haha, I also grew up listening to MJ, just because you're older and the music wasn't produced when I was born doesn't mean I didn't jam to it. See his music lived on so well that I grew up with it decades later.

 

[Burner02]

Okay I think this is a fair point BUT. I'll pull out a double standards ting. You spend all year round mocking iraq and the politicians who iniciated it, and I think there is more hate for the iraq/afghan wars than there was for protestors, but yet we need to mourn soldiers who go to foreign countries, kill many innocent people all for a BS reason which covers the ultimate goal of oil & personal riches for big companies and politicians?? I'm not saying we shouldn't, infact I think that their lives are precious and being wasted for riches, which is sad, but they are not doing as much for the country as you think. Just because it's a war doesn't mean its justified.

People in wars which actually were for freedom, such as WW1 & 2 have their memorials broadcasted on air, and a moment of silence every year througout our whole country here. I think there was much more appreciation for that then MJ.

And if you're going to use that logic, then all celebs should be mocked & hated for just being famous. They act, play music n shit, entertain the world yet there are firefighters dying saving people and policemen shot in the line of fire. The day you start mourning every policeman and loathing every celeb who has not done anything major then you can come to me with that reasoning.

Good points. I'm here...and still scratch my head and wonder why we are.

1) who is innocent? Soldiers do not come here to kill civillians. To even think that is ignorant thinking. You do know that we, Brits and the other coalition forces go out of our way to NOT injure civillians. the insurgants use the civilians to hide behind. Do you also know that Muslims are killing more muslims than the coalition forces, right?

2) you are right, Boiled down to it, this is still about oil. The world depends on it. I could give two-shits about what kind of government runs this region. However, until there another viable energy source available that can replace oil for EVERYTHING that we use oil, oil based products for, we need to protect our interests.

3) I'm around 'Ghani's every day. They seem nice. I am sure most are like everybody else: All they want to do is wake up, go to work and provide for a family. However, there are the 'other' kind. The ones that fall to far intothat bull shit religious crap that if you are not muslim, you need to be killed. THAT" is who we are dealing with.
And yes, there are nut jobs all over the world, we have our fair share in the States and abroad.

4) celebs...yeah...I don't get how we just go nutz over someone famous. All the 'reality' shows...honestly make me sick. I heard that the dumb b***h who is single, on welfare and dropped 14 kids is trying to get a reality show...wtf would want to watch some loser like that? hmmm...people will. Instead of opening up their front door and making a life for themselves, they choose to sit on ther ever-expanding asses and watch the 'lives' of other, insignificant people.

So yeah...I do agree with a lot of what you say.
Was just offering a little point of view...

 

[Keylan]

I'm not saying we shouldn't, infact I think that their lives are precious and being wasted for riches, which is sad, but they are not doing as much for the country as you think. Just because it's a war doesn't mean its justified.

People in wars which actually were for freedom, such as WW1 & 2 have their memorials broadcasted on air, and a moment of silence every year througout our whole country here. I think there was much more appreciation for that then MJ.

And if you're going to use that logic, then all celebs should be mocked & hated for just being famous. They act, play music n shit, entertain the world yet there are firefighters dying saving people and policemen shot in the line of fire. The day you start mourning every policeman and loathing every celeb who has not done anything major then you can come to me with that reasoning.

Right on.

Good points. I'm here...and still scratch my head and wonder why we are.

1) Do you also know that Muslims are killing more muslims than the coalition forces, right?

2) However, until there another viable energy source available that can replace oil for EVERYTHING that we use oil, oil based products for, we need to protect our interests.

3) The ones that fall to far into that bull shit religious crap that if you are not muslim, you need to be killed. THAT" is who we are dealing with. And yes, there are nut jobs all over the world, we have our fair share in the States and abroad.

4) celebs...yeah...I don't get how we just go nutz over someone famous. ...wtf would want to watch some loser like that? hmmm...people will.

1) does that mean muslims or crazy middle easterners who happen to be muslim?

2) It sounds like you're saying we have the right to control the middle east because we need what they have. by that logic i get to make you supply me with protein shakes outta your fridge even if i live on a chicken ranch. imho we can't be mad cuz they happen to be beverly hillbillies. just a question; has anything happened to the sun within the last 6000 years? maybe there's something in the mississippi river or hurricane katrina.

3) I've met my share of devout catholics with that same mentalty about jesus. not sure what it's liek over in budapest and those places but when you have a bunch of people fighting over religious venues of interest, hate and fear begins to fester. the strange thing is we're gonna be imitating them in a inute.

4) yeah that's a perk of living in the public eye. everyone who sees you feels they know you on some level. with all due respect would you rather not have heard about farah's passing? maybe the news didn't change your life but there was probably a reaction.

 

[min0 lee]

Just a little spin of perspective....

This is written by a young man serving his third tour of duty in Iraq.
Thought you might find his take on the Michael Jackson news interesting.

____________________________


Okay, I need to rant.

I was just watching the news, and I caught part of a report on Michael Jackson. As we all know, Jackson died the other day. He was an entertainer who performed for decades. He made millions, he spent millions, and he did a lot of things that make him a villian to many people. I understand that his death would affect a lot of people, and I respect those people who mourn his death, but that isn't the point of my rant.

Why is it that when ONE man dies, the whole of America loses their minds with grief. When a man dies whose only contribution to the country was to ENTERTAIN people, the Amercian people find the need to flock to a memorial in Hollywood, and even Congress sees the need to hold a "moment of silence" for his passing?

Am I missing something here? ONE man dies, and all of a sudden he's a freaking martyr because he entertained us for a few decades? What about all those SOLDIERS who have died to give us freedom? All those Soldiers who, knowing that they would be asked to fight in a war, still raised their hands and swore to defend the Constitution and the United States of America. Where is their moment of silence? Where are the people flocking to their graves or memorials and mourning over them because they made the ultimate sacrifice? Why is it when a Soldier dies, there are more people saying "good riddance," and "thank God for IEDs?" When did this country become so calloused to the sacrifice of GOOD MEN and WOMEN, that they can arbitrarily blow off their deaths, and instead, throw themselves into mourning for a "Pop Icon?"

I think that if they are going to hold a moment of silence IN CONGRESS for Michael Jackson, they need to hold a moment of silence for every service member killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. They need to PUBLICLY recognize every life that has been lost so that the American people can live their callous little lives in the luxury and freedom that WE, those that are living and those that have gone on, have provided for them. But, wait, that would take too much time, because there have been so many willing to make that sacrifice. After all, we will never make millions of dollars. We will never star in movies, or write hit songs that the world will listen too. We only shed our blood, sweat and tears so that people can enjoy what they have.

Sorry if I have offended, but I needed to say it.
Remember these five words the next time you think of someone who is serving in the military;

"So that others may live..."

Isaac

 

[maniclion]

and I think there is more hate for the iraq/afghan wars than there was for protestors, but yet we need to mourn soldiers who go to foreign countries, kill many innocent people

Kennedy once said that we shoulld hold the peace mongering, conscientious objecting, protesters of war on a higher or as high a pedestal as the decorated war heroes, then peace may have a chance.....

all for a BS reason which covers the ultimate goal of oil & personal riches for big companies and politicians?? Then you should be singing the praise of the scientists, engineers, and others working hard to make, improve and gain support for alternative power sources. guys like my bosses who go to congressional hearings to give testimony on the benefits of Solar Water Heating and Photovoltaics to gain tax credit and rebate support, fighting with Public Utility Commisions to allow more kWh's to be pumped into the grid by cleaner, sustainable sources like wind and solar

People in wars which actually were for freedom, such as WW1 & 2 have their memorials broadcasted on air, and a moment of silence every year througout our whole country here. I think there was much more appreciation for that then MJ.
They deserve a holiday and national recognition, Jackson doesn't. Did you know the last of the WW1 Vets are in their 100's, the last US Vet is 108... There had better be huge memorials and constant news reports, I mean the last living survivors of the Great War, we won't have anymore eyewitnesses to the atrocities....



And if you're going to use that logic, then all celebs should be mocked & hated for just being famous. No but all those rabid fans who are not rooted in reality need to be mocked and hated for creating the myth's that these people are larger than life, for making them gods and goddesses living on the Mount Olympus that is Hollywood

They act, play music n shit, entertain the world yet there are firefighters dying saving people and policemen shot in the line of fire. The day you start mourning every policeman and loathing every celeb who has not done anything major then you can come to me with that reasoning.

Isn't that the point we've all been trying to make that MJ doesn't deserve the recognition he's been receiving, that their are people who do more to affect real changes in the world and not just who most people choose from the song list at the Karaoke clubs......

 

[Keylan]

Isn't that the point we've all been trying to make that MJ doesn't deserve the recognition he's been receiving, that their are people who do more to affect real changes in the world and not just who most people choose from the song list at the Karaoke clubs......

how big were his philanthropic efforts?

 

[Burner02]

1) does that mean muslims or crazy middle easterners who happen to be muslim?.
*** Imean the worthless SOB's that are killing their own, and everybody else. You label them as you wish

2) It sounds like you're saying we have the right to control the middle east because we need what they have. by that logic i get to make you supply me with protein shakes outta your fridge even if i live on a chicken ranch. imho we can't be mad cuz they happen to be beverly hillbillies. just a question; has anything happened to the sun within the last 6000 years? maybe there's something in the mississippi river or hurricane katrina.
*** Not what I said at all. I don't think we have that right. We do have the right to conduct business. the ME has product the world needs. The rest of this state ment you made...doen'st make much sense.

3) I've met my share of devout catholics with that same mentalty about jesus. not sure what it's liek over in budapest and those places but when you have a bunch of people fighting over religious venues of interest, hate and fear begins to fester. the strange thing is we're gonna be imitating them in a inute.
*** I read a quote once that I like: Religion divides, faith brings together.

4) yeah that's a perk of living in the public eye. everyone who sees you feels they know you on some level. with all due respect would you rather not have heard about farah's passing? maybe the news didn't change your life but there was probably a reaction.

*** My reaction to her passing: oh, really? that's too bad. What's for lunch?
But seriously, I don't know these people. I may have been entertained w/ some of them at some point, and if they pass on, then it is sad to hear when someone dies. I'm not gonna cry over it.

 

[maniclion]

how big were his philanthropic efforts?

How much bigger could they have been? Their have been billions thrown at problems like starvation in Africa and people are still starving, evry rich person throws money at charities it's called tax write offs, but where is the change you would think would be seen from all that? More money is wasted in the logistics and transport of foods to the places than on the foods, if they would spend it on teaching the people to grow their own, and on building water treatment facilities then the money would be much better spent but these people keep just throwing money at the wrong outfits who just want to stay in business hauling food over......"For a dollar a day you can feed a child" how about for $3650 for the year you guys show them how to plant and harvest crops that will grow in their lands.......

 

[T_man]

Isn't that the point we've all been trying to make that MJ doesn't deserve the recognition he's been receiving, that their are people who do more to affect real changes in the world and not just who most people choose from the song list at the Karaoke clubs......

Hmm that isn't the attitude i've seen coming from you guys in the billy may's one. He did even less! Double standards maybe?? hmm

 

[min0 lee]

Hmm that isn't the attitude i've seen coming from you guys in the billy may's one. He did even less! Double standards maybe?? hmm

I really don't think you understand.
For someone who say's he's not that big of a fan you really take this hard.
All we are saying is that he didn't deserve all of the attention he has had.

 

[T_man]

Originally Posted by Keylan View Post
1) does that mean muslims or crazy middle easterners who happen to be muslim?.
*** Imean the worthless SOB's that are killing their own, and everybody else. You label them as you wish
Are these the only ones who are being killed?? Hell even inquiries are going on into a war because of mistreatment?? You know stuff is being done wrong when there are trials and jail terms for soldiers mistreating other human beings in a war.

2) It sounds like you're saying we have the right to control the middle east because we need what they have. by that logic i get to make you supply me with protein shakes outta your fridge even if i live on a chicken ranch. imho we can't be mad cuz they happen to be beverly hillbillies. just a question; has anything happened to the sun within the last 6000 years? maybe there's something in the mississippi river or hurricane katrina.
*** Not what I said at all. I don't think we have that right. We do have the right to conduct business. the ME has product the world needs. The rest of this state ment you made...doen'st make much sense.
Business is not invading it and stealing it. I don't see how you can ever ever justify this one.

3) I've met my share of devout catholics with that same mentalty about jesus. not sure what it's liek over in budapest and those places but when you have a bunch of people fighting over religious venues of interest, hate and fear begins to fester. the strange thing is we're gonna be imitating them in a inute.
*** I read a quote once that I like: Religion divides, faith brings together.
I didn't really see the point of this statement or the one it was a reply to

4) yeah that's a perk of living in the public eye. everyone who sees you feels they know you on some level. with all due respect would you rather not have heard about farah's passing? maybe the news didn't change your life but there was probably a reaction.*** My reaction to her passing: oh, really? that's too bad. What's for lunch?
But seriously, I don't know these people. I may have been entertained w/ some of them at some point, and if they pass on, then it is sad to hear when someone dies. I'm not gonna cry over it.

haha

 

[Keylan]

I really don't think you understand.
For someone who say's he's not that big of a fan you really take this hard.
All we are saying is that he didn't deserve all of the attention he has had.

well you know MJ can't do anything without a lot of attention. that's why he was so huge.

 

[maniclion]

Hmm that isn't the attitude i've seen coming from you guys in the billy may's one. He did even less! Double standards maybe?? hmm

I haven't been over there making any such claims, all that Billy Mays was to me was a thunderous voice who made me have to turn down the tv because his commercials were too damned loud.... Maybe the other guys thought he was cooler because he had that well groomed beard like Chuck Norris.....

 

[min0 lee]

He changes the facts to suit him.

You do realize people can scroll and read old posts within a thread do you?

 

[T_man]

*** My reaction to her passing: oh, really? that's too bad. What's for lunch?
But seriously, I don't know these people. I may have been entertained w/ some of them at some point, and if they pass on, then it is sad to hear when someone dies. I'm not gonna cry over it.

I really don't think you understand.
For someone who say's he's not that big of a fan you really take this hard.
All we are saying is that he didn't deserve all of the attention he has had.

haha min0, i'm not taking it hard at all. What I cant take his hypocrites. YOU'RE the one who doesn't understand. Here you are giving me reasons why he shouldn't be appreciated yet you're contradicting yourself elsewhere. I'm just sick of double standards

 

[min0 lee]

haha min0, i'm not taking it hard at all. What I cant take his hypocrites. YOU'RE the one who doesn't understand. Here you are giving me reasons why he shouldn't be appreciated yet you're contradicting yourself elsewhere. I'm just sick of double standards

Hey, if your a fan of his music like I am then cool. I respect that but if we call him a weirdo don't get mad....he was a weirdo.

 

[T_man]

Hey, if your a fan of his music like I am then cool. I respect that but if we call him a weirdo don't get mad....he was a weirdo.

you're probably more of a fan than me. I'm not getting mad, I can understand why you might think so but thats who I am. I like to discuss things on forums. I'm not saying he wasn't a weirdo while he was alive. I said he was innocent of his accusations and that you should look past all that when someone dies, like you do at any other funeral.

 

[min0 lee]

like you do at any other funeral.

There are a couple of people who I know deserve to be pissed on their graves.

We don't really know if he was guilty or not.

 

[Burner02]

haha min0, i'm not taking it hard at all. What I cant take his hypocrites. YOU'RE the one who doesn't understand. Here you are giving me reasons why he shouldn't be appreciated yet you're contradicting yourself elsewhere. I'm just sick of double standards

What or who are hypocrites here in this? Contradicting or using double standards? I'm now curious as you quoted both Mino and I.

I'm with Mino: I like his music. I remember back in '84, I think...summer. The day 'Thriller' made its video debut on MTV...when MTV actually played music. He was an amazing performer. His personal life...sketchy. Unfortunately, his personal life is gonna shadow and tarnish his 'legacy'.
How about Tyson? Was gonna go down as one of the all time boxing greats. Now, he's mostly thought of as the crazy guy who allegedly raped some girl.

As mentioned, I hate how the media sensationalizes unimportant events. Do you remember the circus over Anna-Nicole Smith's death? That person...was a worthless, cum guzzling, gold-digging crack whore...and the media went into a frenzy over her...drug related death! who woulda thunkit! and it was 'page 1' news for days...
....I caught a pice of 'news' on MJ the day he died. They were talking about all the debt he owed people. Really? How is that anybody's business other than MJ's, and his creditors? Again: news media = souless vultures.

 

[maniclion]

Again: news media = souless vultures.

And the majority of the people are the little micro-organisms in the bowels of the beast devouring this like carrion thrown to wolves.....

 

[min0 lee]

What or who are hypocrites here in this? Contradicting or using double standards? I'm now curious as you quoted both Mino and I.

I'm with Mino: I like his music. I remember back in '84, I think...summer. The day 'Thriller' made its video debut on MTV...when MTV actually played music. He was an amazing performer. His personal life...sketchy. Unfortunately, his personal life is gonna shadow and tarnish his 'legacy'.
How about Tyson? Was gonna go down as one of the all time boxing greats. Now, he's mostly thought of as the crazy guy who allegedly raped some girl.

As mentioned, I hate how the media sensationalizes unimportant events. Do you remember the circus over Anna-Nicole Smith's death? That person...was a worthless, cum guzzling, gold-digging crack whore...and the media went into a frenzy over her...drug related death! who woulda thunkit! and it was 'page 1' news for days...
....I caught a pice of 'news' on MJ the day he died. They were talking about all the debt he owed people. Really? How is that anybody's business other than MJ's, and his creditors? Again: news media = souless vultures.

This is what he doesn't understand.

 

[maxpro2]

I haven't been over there making any such claims, all that Billy Mays was to me was a thunderous voice who made me have to turn down the tv because his commercials were too damned loud.... Maybe the other guys thought he was cooler because he had that well groomed beard like Chuck Norris.....

Fuck you Billy was god.