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guys forrest did beat rampage who is a hell of a fighter yet the guy still doesn't get any credit.

I am kinda partial to him though, i ran into him in the lobby at mandalay bay about three years ago, hell of a nice. Very friendly and had no problem talking for a minute and taking some pics.
 
had to laugh at this when reading the description for the movie fighting

Harvey introduces him to the corrupt bare-knuckle circuit, where rich men bet on disposable pawns. Almost overnight, he becomes a star brawler, taking down professional boxers, mixed martial arts champs and ultimate fighters in a series of staggeringly intense bouts.

whats the difference between a mixed martial artist and an ultimate fight ? lol
 
Pretty good UFC card for this Saturday. Who you guys got?

Evans vs Machida
Hughes vs Serra

I'm going with Machida and Serra.
 
I hate Machida. Yes, I am on the "Hes boring" bandwagon. However, I thought about this today...

Why do people automatically side with Machida? Technical strikes? What about Evans? Does he not have what it takes? Evans always struck me as a fighter that hasnt shown his full potential, but from what weve seen already its quite big and growing. Machida on the other hand has the same thing I suppose. I mean, he finally knocked someone out. I think any kick, at the right time has a bigger chance to KO someone than a punch and Evans did that on Liddell.

Serra vs. Hughes? I will side with Serra, but Hughes has been through so many fucking fights and their age range isnt that different. What is Serra 9 and 4-5? Meanwhile Hughes has 40 wins? Fuck him though. Never liked him.

I am surprised Double that you jumped bus on that one.
 
AKIRA said:
I am surprised Double that you jumped bus on that one.
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I know. I like Hughes a lot. I also like Serra a lot. I still think Hughes is strong as hell and can wrestle like hell. Serra on the other hand is a smart fighter. He is faster then Hughes and really wants to kick his ass. It was a close choice for me. It really could go either way.

I don't know much about Machida. I just remember him beating Tito a few UFC's back. He seemed very good on his feet. Hopefully he'll give Rashad a run for his money. I don't really like Rashad. Al though his speed really impressed me during the Forrest fight. I've never seen a light heavy so fast.
 
Evens for the KO
Huges for submission, possibly KO

Evens is the superior fighter, and his stand up is 10x better. If Machita trys to stand with him he will get burned, and fast. Evens is very fast, very strong, and very accurate with his strikes.

Huges for sure out classes Serra in all aspects of MMA. Huges is cocky, but so is the little faggot from NY that talks like his last name is Gotti. Huges's last few fights have been anything but impressive to me, but I still think he is a great fighter, and still has time on the clock.. I'd love to see him tear up Serra and make a come back in the UFC to reclaim his title, then retire. Obviously GSP is so far better all around I can't see that ever happening, but a guy can dream.
 
My question is not who will win between Serra and Hughes...but, who gives a shit?

We have a former WW champ, who is probably a future gatekeeper, vs a guy (who actually is also a former WW champ) who has not been able to finish fights and belongs at light weight. The fight is all hype and I'd rather have something else as a co-main event.

On paper this fight looks great, having two former champs face off. I think in reality it is different though. Don't get my wrong, I love to see a fight, but Hughes vs Serra isn't relevant in the sense that both fighters aren't going to go anywhere.
 
I used to care, now I do not.

I never liked Hughes so it innately makes me vote against him. I love how Serra calls him out, but that was around a year ago. Within that year, Serra has fought 1 predictable fight and 1 that was not. Hughes hasnt fought since Alves and he did better against him than Serra was against GSP. Its been so long that I actually looked up a GSP vs. Alves fight thinking it had already happened.

Point is, now that it has been a while, Hughes is an underdog to me, which earns him personal point. However, I still remember who he is...BUT because I am able to not care as much, I can take the blinders off. He is more experienced and Serra's record sucks. With that, I am interested in Hughes winning, but not that much.

I am 50/50 on it.
 
Anyone watching tonight? I'm going to try to.
 
Didn't get to watch but from what I read it was a pretty good main event. Links?
 
Yikes!!! Everyone should watch the main event, it is on dailymotion right now.
 
Huges/Serra fight could have been better...I think it was called correctly. The first round knock down was a head butt and punch to the back of the head. That shouldn't have scored any points...if anything should give points to Huges for coming back from that.

I am shocked by Machida fight. I think it would have gone differently if Evans played his game, and not trying to mold himself to be better against Machida. I don't think the heavy pressure Evans could have put on him would have been shaken so easy....basically he didn't fight his own fight. I think Rampage will and we will see Machida get knocked out.
 
TrojanMan60563 said:
I think Rampage will and we will see Machida get knocked out.
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I'm fairly new to MMA, but from what I saw last night I have to disagree. Machida had Evans beat before he even threw a punch. I think the fact that he's so technically sound and been doing this since he was a child gives him an edge over just about anyone that's out there right now. I don't see Machida losing anytime soon.
 
TrojanMan60563 said:
Huges/Serra fight could have been better...I think it was called correctly. The first round knock down was a head butt and punch to the back of the head. That shouldn't have scored any points...if anything should give points to Huges for coming back from that.

I am shocked by Machida fight. I think it would have gone differently if Evans played his game, and not trying to mold himself to be better against Machida. I don't think the heavy pressure Evans could have put on him would have been shaken so easy....basically he didn't fight his own fight. I think Rampage will and we will see Machida get knocked out.
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Evans did play his game, even his trainer Greg Jackson said so. Jackson said Evans caught got and Machida was the better fighter that night.

If Forrest could stick and move on Rampage I could see Machida running a clinic on Rampage. Machida is faster, better timed and more accurate than Quinton.

Rampage had trouble with both Forrest and Jardine...Machida's stand-up game is leaps and bounds better than those guy's. Machida has always looked good IMO, he has been slowly ramping up, he looks pretty fucking amazing as of now.
 
I was blown away by Machida in the fight. I wont be calling him boring any time soon. Rampage could win, but hell have to resort to what made him popular: his slams. Now he just has to get in the pocket.

Serra/Hughes fight was a fucking joke. I called Serra or at the very least, draw. I cant see how they decided on Hughes, much less unanimous. I am as shocked about that decision as I am about Evans's drop.

Serra won the first round regardless of the headbutt.
Hughes won the 2nd by a fantastic display of lay and pray.
Serra won the 3rd from a take down, shitty, but landed strikes, and some submission attempts.

Whats funny is that I called every single preliminary fight and got the two main events wrong.
 
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AKIRA said:
I was blown away by Machida in the fight. I wont be calling him boring any time soon. Rampage could win, but hell have to resort to what made him popular: his slams. Now he just has to get in the pocket.

Serra/Hughes fight was a fucking joke. I called Serra or at the very least, draw. I cant see how they decided on Hughes, much less unanimous. I am as shocked about that decision as I am about Evans's drop.

Serra won the first round regardless of the headbutt.
Hughes won the 2nd by a fantastic display of lay and pray.
Serra won the 3rd from a take down, shitty, but landed strikes, and some submission attempts.

Whats funny is that I called every single preliminary fight and got the two main events wrong.
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I knew Hughes was gonna win, he fought the better fight, IMO. I wish I could remember why, but I was hammered at that point and can't remember. A dude I know works at a bar that solely exists to draw people in to an apartment complex. Their liquor license does not allow them to make a profit because they are considered a private club, so you drop a $20 and drink all night. They get all of the UFCs, so I have my new spot.
 
I watched it twice. Hughes did not win. He did not deserve an unanimous. He did not earn a split. He earned a draw. At best.

He laid and prayed.

Serra did more work in the 3rd just slightly enough to either earn a split or offset the balance for a draw.
 
AKIRA said:
I watched it twice. Hughes did not win. He did not deserve an unanimous. He did not earn a split. He earned a draw. At best.

He laid and prayed.

Serra did more work in the 3rd just slightly enough to either earn a split or offset the balance for a draw.
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I agree it was wierd that it was unanimous...I thought the take down at the end would have come close to a draw. I guess reality is Huges maintained control of the fight majority of each round. Control is hard to argue with. They are both washed up so not much to sweat about. Huges is over the hill, and so is serra. Neither of them have a prayer anymore of toughing GSP. So hopefully huges will throw in the towel now that he got the win he wanted.
 
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Franklin beat Silva. I heard it was a good fight. Wanderlei that is.
 
USA vs UK finale tonight. Also, sanchez vs guida and stevenson vs nate diaz. Should be some good fights.
 
AKIRA said:
Night load of boring fights. Thank god for the Lytle and Sanchez fights.
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Yeah. I'm so tired of Joe Stevenson. He looked good the first round but then just reverted back to wrestling. There was some really great Jiu Jitsu in there but other then that a pretty boring fight.
 
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