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all the fighters that left UFC?? they left because UFC didn't want them.... they were wash outs!!!
 
I saw this this morning. Thought about it all day. It really sucks. I wanted to see Fedor fight in the UFC now. It will take him at least 3 years to fulfill a 6 fight contract. He will be 35-36 then. Then if he fights in the UFC and gets beat people will say he wasn't in his prime. I put UFC at the top of the MMA organizations. If you are the HW champ of the UFC then you are the guy to beat. If you are the HW champ of Strikeforce, who gives a fuck. Obviously Strikeforce is trying to change that mentality. Right now that is the way it is. I will not consider Fedor the best HW until he beats the HW champ of the UFC. That is my opinion and I'm sure it is shared by others. Its just really sad. I don't think this is Fedor either. It is his sponsor. All though Fedor should be able to sway them. Fuck!
 
Fedor Emelianenko - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Go read about him and then tell me he is not an accomplished fighter, or he only fights washed up people. He has dominated every federation of MMA style fighting as well as other styles.

Without a doubt he is an elite in the sport of MMA. UFC is probably the most well known organization, but that isn't to say they have the best fighters. If someone loses 2-3 fights in UFC they are kicked to the curb and labeled a has been when not too long ago they were top dog. Is Rampage Jackson a has been? Is Rashad Evens on his way to being a has been? There is the "best in the world", and the "best of UFC". UFC is not the pro ranks of fighting and the rest are minor league. UFC fighters for the most part make shit, and I think majority of other places pay better.

Fedor may have signed with Strikeforce, but I would be shocked if that limited him to only fighting there. He doesn't roll like that, and I am sure if the price tag was large enough he could take a UFC fight. The issue still stands that Dana does not want to shell out a contract for 1 fight...he wants a commitment to what 5 or 6?

We will see Fedor in the UFC when Dana offers a 1 fight contract probably 10m+. Until then anyone that wants to prove to be better will have to seek him elsewhere.

I don't know why everyone is putting UFC as the place to fight if you want respect in MMA. Why don't UFC fighters fight in other federations to prove they are the best in the world? Oh I know why...its the long contracts Dana White dangles in front of broke fighters on the come up. It takes from from hungry new and growing, to their primes, and to their last fight in the UFC when someone else as taken their glory. Look at GSP for example. I don't know how many more fights he is contracted for, but he came hungry and lost a couple....he came into his prime....and he will fight UFC until someone comes along and takes his belt. He will lose a few fights and then he will be ready for some sub prime league right? UFC contracts pretty much suck, and obligate fighters to many fights.
 
I believe the UFC has the more elite fighters in MMA.
 
TrojanMan60563 said:
Fedor Emelianenko - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Go read about him and then tell me he is not an accomplished fighter, or he only fights washed up people. He has dominated every federation of MMA style fighting as well as other styles.

Without a doubt he is an elite in the sport of MMA. UFC is probably the most well known organization, but that isn't to say they have the best fighters. If someone loses 2-3 fights in UFC they are kicked to the curb and labeled a has been when not too long ago they were top dog. Is Rampage Jackson a has been? Is Rashad Evens on his way to being a has been? There is the "best in the world", and the "best of UFC". UFC is not the pro ranks of fighting and the rest are minor league. UFC fighters for the most part make shit, and I think majority of other places pay better.

Fedor may have signed with Strikeforce, but I would be shocked if that limited him to only fighting there. He doesn't roll like that, and I am sure if the price tag was large enough he could take a UFC fight. The issue still stands that Dana does not want to shell out a contract for 1 fight...he wants a commitment to what 5 or 6?

We will see Fedor in the UFC when Dana offers a 1 fight contract probably 10m+. Until then anyone that wants to prove to be better will have to seek him elsewhere.

I don't know why everyone is putting UFC as the place to fight if you want respect in MMA. Why don't UFC fighters fight in other federations to prove they are the best in the world? Oh I know why...its the long contracts Dana White dangles in front of broke fighters on the come up. It takes from from hungry new and growing, to their primes, and to their last fight in the UFC when someone else as taken their glory. Look at GSP for example. I don't know how many more fights he is contracted for, but he came hungry and lost a couple....he came into his prime....and he will fight UFC until someone comes along and takes his belt. He will lose a few fights and then he will be ready for some sub prime league right? UFC contracts pretty much suck, and obligate fighters to many fights.
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You have to look at it from UFC's side. If they give Fedor a 1 fight contract, he wins the title, then bounces to another federation, how does it look having the UFC champ fighting for another organization? I honestly think if Fedor fights Lesnar, Fedor wins, and I think Dana thinks that as well, which is why he wants him sewed up for more fights. Everyone know this is the primary sticking point and nothing has changed on either side. From Fedor's end, he would be smart to take the fight soon, Brock will surpass him. Fedor has how many years of real fighting experience compared to Brock's 2. That has to take a toll on his body, even though he won all but one.
 
TROJAN, FEDORS LAST FIGHTS AGAINST ufc GUYS WERE WHO?? Arlovski, and big Tim..... Tim got ktfo by mercer (old ass guy) Arlovski lost to a nobody in rogers..... those guys are not in their UFC form. could they get back that way.... sure. but right now they look like has beens. im not impressed..... i just do not see it, they offer you 5 million a fight and the right to do whatever you want to come prove your the best (self proclaimed emporer) and you walk away??? obviously you may have some doubt in whether you truly are the best or not...... come on GUARENTEED 30 million!!!!!! looks like a dodger to me, thats making up excuses, just drop your managers and prove you are the best.
 
Dana White traps people into a UFC career as I mentioned before. I can totally side with Fedor for not wanting a multi fight contract. If Dana wants to prove who is the best he will sign for 1 fight at a time. I don't think Fedor as any reserves to fighting anyone in the UFC. Its Dana White he has an issue with.

Secondly Corum maybe you didn't go read wiki about him, but he is very accomplished in many ways as a professional fighter. To claim only UFC houses the best fighters in the world is foolish. I think you will see more fighters fighting open contracts in the future because other federations DO have elite fighters, and these folks are not sucked in by Dana White and his empire.

added after the fact is...UFC is what people know as the household name in MMA. You cannot compare UFC to anyone because they do not fight eachother. Only when people are "washed up" do they leave their previous federtions to seek another fighting career elsewhere....Until fighting between federations is allowed, where fighters can perform in their primes, then you can't count anyone out.
 
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Bottom line, he doesnt want to do it. If I was him, Id say fuck the contract ties, I have a new contract that will pay what I may owe. UFC has always been bigger than their competition (PRIDE may have been bigger in UFC's birth years), so it makes sense that the best would want to fight for the best.

In other words, proving that he "cant" is impossible." I have more reason to believe he doesnt WANT to sign and thats the bottom line.
 
I agree....he does want to sign....has nothing to do with not wanting to fight UFC...Dana is nothing more then a tick.
 
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OMG what the hell was that pathetic show Forrest put on? Then he runs all the way back to the locker room? That was either a set fight to give Anderson his big intro into the weight class, or .... or..... I want to hear what Forrest has to say. My only guess is he was so emarassed by his fight he didn't want to speak so he ran away.
 
Forrest just got completely humiliated and he knew it right away so he just left. I was looking forward to Kenny Florian beating BJ but it didn't happen...sigh.
 
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thegoodstuffguy said:
In MMA you can use any fighting style right? Kicks, punches, knees, elbows, headbutts - whatever?

The fights always seem to be decided on the ground though, which seems to suggest that 1 on 1, wrestling style fighting techniques trump all others?
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This is why Gracie/Brazillian Jiu-Jitsu is so popular.
 
Fight Finder - Fedor "The Last Emperor" Emelianenko's Mixed Martial Arts Statistics
Here's everyone Fedor has fought. Impressive? Yes. Does it mean he is the best in the world? No. Fighting has changed tremendously in the past 5 years. I want to see Fedor fight some of the new HW's. Such as Brock, Mir, Couture, Kongo, Gonzaga. I know he has beaten Nog before but I would like to see that now. He could absolutely annihilate everyone I have listed but until I see him beat the HW champ, he is not the best in the world, in my eyes.

Also, check this documentary out. It was on HBO back in 2002. Really great insight into the beginnings of MMA. Lots of ROID use. Go figure.
Amazon.com: The Smashing Machine - The Life and Times of Extreme Fighter Mark Kerr: Mark Kerr, Mark Coleman, Dawn Staples, Bas Rutten, Eddie Goldman, Royce Gracie, Ken Shamrock, Igor Vovchanchyn, Stephen Schlueter, John Hyams, Frederico Lapenda, Gavi
 
AKIRA said:
Umm..thanks.

Cyborg is juicing and there should be a 'Barnett' test. Strip her of her title and give it back. No men in Women MMA!
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Tru dat.
 
Nice post above with a history on Fedor. I think it goes without being said I am a huge fan, and believe 100% he is the best in the world. I hope Fedor and the UFC can agree on some terms to allow us the pleasure of seeing him fight Brock and some of the other top heavy weights. Once that happens I hope the non Fedor fans can become more supportive of this guy once he has proven himself agains the best UFC has to offer.
 
Silva talks about training with Franklin. He seems like a really cool guy. He speaks very well about the sport.
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