MMA News and Notes

[kuso]

It was a great show. I didn't think Chuck looked as bad as some are saying.

McDonald showed awesome potential.

Crocop put on his best performance in years.

Barry was doing great until the broken hand/then foot. Showed huge balls to make it as long as he did.

Similarly, Ace fighting with a broken forearm and KO'ing chuck was great.

Danzig got fucked MASSIVELY by the ref. So, so badly. I really felt sorry for him knowing how much he put into his training this time after losing motivation some time ago. I hope this motivates him more and doesn't put him back into the psychological hole he was in for awhile.

Barry's foot:

 

[AKIRA]

Agreed 100%.

 

[kuso]

right hand, right foot.....must make using crutches a bitch.

 

[davegmb]

I hadnt heard this about pat berrys foot and hand, which round did he break them in? i just thought he got tired, obviously not.

 

[kuso]

I hadnt heard this about pat berrys foot and hand, which round did he break them in? i just thought he got tired, obviously not.

I heard the hand was on the second down in round 1.

No one seems to ask about the foot, but after Crocop check that low in the first he seemed to0 slow down throwing them so I "assume" the same round.

 

[AKIRA]

I am gonna go out and say this... I thought Cro Cop looked like he was acting like his old self. In other words, he was trying to be the old Cro Cop but never made it.

I thought he came in fatter than usual. He got knocked down twice too. I did think his kicks were pretty fast, but i feel if Parry was 100%, Cro Cop wouldve been fucked.

Looking back, I feel like Cro Cop was putting on a display rather than fighting ferociously.

 

[Vance]

I agree. I think Cro-Cop is done. He makes beating up Mustapha Al Turk and a guy with a broken hand and foot look hard.

It's a pity because he was a great but put him in a ring with JDS, Cain, Carwin, Brock, Mir, hell even Kongo and I think he gets his ass handed to him in 5 minutes or less.

Barry showed him too much respect and should've finished him on that second knockdown. He prob. could've done it on the first but I'll pay the fact that he might've thought Mirko was baiting him.

Edit: Would like to see his next match up be vs. Big Country.

 

[Doublebase]

Noticed they are replying shogun/Machida II card next week on spike. They promoted all the fights except the Koscheck one. Wonder if they are going to air that?

 

[kuso]

TUF finals yesterday were a bit of a non-event really. Was that the weakest co-headlining event for a TUF series ever?

 

[AKIRA]

Complete fucking bore. As predicted.

WEC tonight and they usually never disappoint.

 

[kuso]

They disappoint because it is fucking Monday here and I'm at work and can't watch live!!!!

 

[AKIRA]

Its Monday there? Where is there? So far its pretty good. More of a freak show at this point. (1st 2 fights of WEC 49 for the late post viewers)

 

[zombul]

WOW, I think 116 was one of the best UFC cards in a while as far as entertainment value is concerned. Lesnar/Carwin was a big fight that I'm sure attracted alot of people. The Leben fight was incredible as was the Bonnar fight and the sub by Lytle was impressive as was the 155lb fight all the way down to the prelims with Petrozelli looking good before having to tap. That was the first card in a while I felt worth the money I spent on it!

 

[AKIRA]

Yeah, I cant think of a boring fight on the card.

 

[kuso]

Its Monday there? Where is there?

I live in Japan (not Japanese).

 

[kuso]

116 was a good card, but I think the main event really showed how the heavyweight class in general, sucks. Really, the way Lesner shit himself when punched and turtled on the ground coupled with Carwins gassing after 3 minutes made it a bit of a joke when it came to skills. Entertaining, but far from what it was marketed to be.

 

[AKIRA]

I guess you have a point..

I was saying in the bar about what I thought could happen about the future.. If Carwin wins (this was at the time),I can see Cain beating him, then JDS beating Cain. If Brock wins, I can see him defending it, but losing it to JDS.

 

[davegmb]

Has the UFC any plans to get Choi Hong-man?

 

[BigBadWolf]

UFC on Versus Aug 1st.

Jon Jones vs Vladimir Matyushenko
Mark Munoz vs Yushin Okami
John Howard vs Jake Ellenburger
Tyson Griffin vs Takanori Gomi
Paul kelly vs Jacob Volkmann
DaMarques Johnson vs matt Riddle
james Irvin vs Igor Pokrajac
brian Stann vs Mike Massenzio
Darren Elkins vs Charles Oliveira
Rob Kimmens vs Steve Steinbeiss

UFC 117 Aug 7th PPV

Anderson Silva vs Chael Sonnen
Thiago Alvez vs Jon Fitch
Rafael Dos Anjos vs Clay Guida
Ricardo Almeida vs Matt Hughs
Roy Nelson vs Junior Dos Santos
Tim Boetsch vs Thiago Silva
Dustin Hazelett vs Rick Story
Christian Morecraft vs Stefan Struve
Johny Hendricks vs Charlie Brenneman
Ben Saunders vs Dennis Hallman

 

[AKIRA]

Correct.

 

[AKIRA]

Ufc 117

Another very good card.

Dos Santos vs. Fat Fuck...what a start. Total barn burner. Nelson really had no chance, but he came in smart. He had his hands up in every rounds covering his head. No matter the punishment, he still kept a smart head. Even when he did fatigue and drop the hands Dos Santos would be too tired to throw heavier strikes. Does Brock have Roys chin? I dont think so. Dos Santos will be the next Champ. Yep. I am saying it now.

Clay vs. Block head...same old stuff for Clay. Entertainment. Good sub. I was wondering if a fighter could complain about his hair. I could imagine that it would get in the way of the other fighter and maybe even fling sweat or blood into the other fighters eyes. Dont really care, but I wouldnt be surprised if I hear a complaint in the future.

Hughes vs. Almedia...Hughes subs the Grappling expert? Again? Perhaps that asshole shouldnt have had a Gracie in his corner.

They added in Struve vs...I dont know...I thought Struve was going to get KOd again. However HE got a KO? Wow, has he ever even gotten one? This kid needs to gain weight.

Alves vs. Fitch...god dammit. How the fuck does this guy accomplish shit? Total fucking bore. No one can beat him other than GSP. I say he goes to Strikeforce cuz its honestly hard to root for a guy that has been in EIGHT decisions since his last finish. One decision he lost, but still, hes not entertaining.

Silva vs. Sonnen...loved it. Sonnen really came to the plate and did what I thought would be his only chance: Smother Silva. He did exactly that. I never thought Silva was in jeopardy. In fact, I believe that Sonnen knew this is all he had so he used the system to work towards another wrestlers victory. He did rock Silva standing at one point, but I gotta see it again to see how hard it was. Sonnens somersault was hilarious. However, awesome ending. Despite all Sonnens bullshit lay n pray (yes, Silva was unmarked so his GnP was nothing), Silva managed to secure a submission. This is in the 5TH ROUND, where there is the MOST SWEAT, and BLOOD, yet he still got it.

Thats a champ.

 

[yeksetm]

I reckon Alves needs to go up a weight division, he always seems to lack a bit of energy from cutting all that weight. The dude normally walks around at about 200lb and cuts down to make weight.

 

[AKIRA]

I think hes in a tough spot. Hes made weight before so I dont understand why it has continued to be a problem.

 

[awhites1]

Another very good card.

Does Brock have Roys chin? I dont think so. Dos Santos will be the next Champ. Yep. I am saying it now.

what are you going to be saying when he's not. Cain velasquez is bigger and stronger and more complete of a fighter than JDS. I'ld give it to him before santos. But neither of them can hang with Brock. I'll be back in october to follow up and gloat when brock gets another win b/c every single fight its brock haters with hate

 

[AKIRA]

what are you going to be saying when he's not. Cain velasquez is bigger and stronger and more complete of a fighter than JDS. I'ld give it to him before santos. But neither of them can hang with Brock. I'll be back in october to follow up and gloat when brock gets another win b/c every single fight its brock haters with hate

Ill be saying damn, I really thought he would win.

Sorry kiddo, I didnt plan on pointing fingers and laughing at those who dont agree with me.

 

[davegmb]

Got to respect Roy 'big country' Nelson though, he looks like he doesnt belong in a ring with any of these guys, but goes out there and puts up a decent showing. Bet he's suprised a few guys over the years.

 

[awhites1]

i think dana jumped him in real quick against a top fighter of JDS calibur. he doesn't like roy and was probably glad to see him get his ass whooped. he didn't get knocked out but he took a beating.

 

[fufu]

what are you going to be saying when he's not. Cain velasquez is bigger and stronger and more complete of a fighter than JDS. I'ld give it to him before santos. But neither of them can hang with Brock. I'll be back in october to follow up and gloat when brock gets another win b/c every single fight its brock haters with hate

Just because someone doesn't pick Brock in a fight doesn't mean they are a "Brock Hater".

 

[BigBadWolf]

Awesome night of fights. Nelson surprised me with his chin,i figured JDS woulda KO'd him in rnd 1. JDS now fights the winner of brock vs Cain. Outside of a puncher's chance i dont see cain or JDS beating brock.

Hughs, as much as i hate him,he fought a good fight, i was amazed he actually dropped someone with a punch,let alone use a bulldog choke(only the 2nd time in ufc history someone won via this choke) to get the win.

Struve,he got lucky in his fight,he was getting beatdown,then got the lucky KO punch.hes got talent but hes still a greenhorn.

Alves vs Fitch,decent technical fight,but boring as far as action was concerned. Fitch now fights the winner of GSP vs Koscheck.

Silva vs Sonnen. Sonnen beat his ass for 23 1/2 minutes.Silva showed his flaws in this fight.Given a rematch i think Sonnen takes the belt easily and takes it easily.UFC is undecided if a rematch will happen next or Silva will fight Vitor belfort next.Either way i see a new champ,Belfort's handspeed-power makes Silva's look like child'splay.

 

[BigBadWolf]

UFC 118-august 28th fight card

Frankie Edgar vs BJ Penn
Randy Couture vs James toney
Kenny Florian vs Gray Maynard
Nate Diaz vs Marcus Davis
Gerald Harris vs Alessio Sakara
Joe lauzon vs Gabe Ruediger
Andre Winner vs Nik lentz
Nick Osipczak vs. Greg Soto
Mike Pierce vs. Amilcar Alves

Solid card.

Not on this card but pertaining to MMA, Alan Belcher has a torn retina and may have to retire from MMA fighting.