Muscle soreness

[underrated tyler]

Hey everyone, I'm new to the board. I've been lifting for about 6 years but seriously for about a year and a half. Here recently my soreness has become brutal. I've always been one that kinda likes the way muscle soreness feels (wierd I know) but this is bad. Example is a hit my chest Monday and it's still very sore today (Thursday) and that will last through midday Friday. My question is do you think this is contributed to poor nutrition or training harder?

 

[TheSupremeBeing]

Could be either, or both.

Soreness is an indicator of an effective workout, although it is not essential to get results.



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[Mule]

Oh my God he didnt argue with you!

 

[Belial]

Fine, then I will.

Tyler, you're wrong.

 

[Maki Riddington]

It could be a sign of overtraining.


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[Charger]

I would say it was diet and maybe how much rest you are getting. Are you getting enough sleep? When I overtrain I DON'T get sore anymore at all, instead I am just not able to lift as much. I know soreness is not a must but I use it as a sign that I am overtraining or not. The one exception to that is joint pain which will get worse if I over do it.

 

[Charger]

Supreme, I forgot to ask you if you were feeling ok? Your post was short.

 

[Maki Riddington]

Originally posted by Charger:
When I overtrain I DON'T get sore anymore at all, instead I am just not able to lift as much. I know soreness is not a must but I use it as a sign that I am overtraining or not.

*** Prolonged soreness is one of the signs of local overtraining.


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[TheSupremeBeing]

It's a symptom, but don't go thinking because you're sore you are overtraining.

Soreness is an indicator of the recovery period - protein synthesis/muscle growth.

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[Mule]

Oh yeah, well, my dad can kick your dads ass!

 

[pipelayer]

i was wondering also, when i was training everyday, i was never gettting sore, was that because of over training? now that i take a day off now and again, i get really sore for about a daya and a half depending on the intesity of the workout. is this a normal healing time, and is soreness necessary to know that you that peticular muscle group to the extent that it will grow? im trying to bulk, but lean. im new, 8 months in, and am interested in competing. so any help would be appreciated.

 

[fitness4life]

You might not be overtraining you might have to stretch more. Tight muscle restrict the blood flow which slows down the rebuilding process of the muscles. With stretching during and after this allows for a faster recovery of your damaged muscles from lifting. This is from experience because when I do not take the time to stretch my muscle stay sorer longer.

 

[the ripper]

hi underated!!!

immediate carbohydrates after work outs and proper stretching between sets will help a bit

remember carbs are needed right after a workout in order to repair muscle tissue

 

[Scotty the Body]

Originally posted by the ripper
remember carbs are needed right after a workout in order to repair muscle tissue

Actually, carbs are needed to replace energy stores used up durring weigh/cardio training.
Protein is needed to rebuild muscles.

 

[the ripper]

i agree with u scott when u say that protein is needed to rebuild muscle tissue. but if insufficient carbs are available during recovery, it will slow recovery.the more carbs and calories u eat the faster your metabolism goes, the faster your metabolism goes the faster u recover.

 

[Scotty the Body]

Ok, I could be wrong here, I'm not the nutrition expert but increasing the amount of meals you have durring the day is what helps to increase your metabolism, not the amount of carbs and calories.

Sorry ripper, I've just never heard it that way.

 

[Tank316]

Originally posted by Scotty the Body
Ok, I could be wrong here, I'm not the nutrition expert but increasing the amount of meals you have durring the day is what helps to increase your metabolism, not the amount of carbs and calories.

Sorry ripper, I've just never heard it that way.

ditto scotty.carbs right after your workout replenish your glucogen store's,in other words refueling your body for the next heavy intense workout.protien helps in repairing the muscles. .adding a meal throught the day increase's your metabolism.if you didnt replenish your YOUR CARBS, the next day you went to work out you would notice a few things,like, lack of energy,and no pump or the full look after doing a couple of sets.carbs are fuel,protein repairs,certain types of fat are used for fuel as well.IMO

 

[the ripper]

there is more calories in carbohydrates and sugars than there is in protein.....anyway

 

[Tank316]

Originally posted by the ripper
there is more calories in carbohydrates and sugars than there is in protein.....anyway

.sugars are a simple carb[which means they are used first for energy]complex carbs[used last for energy]so you have two means of getting more calories.PROTIEN is the building block to getting bigger,stronger.you have to use both in order to create a "anabolic enviroment"bodybuilder are real strict with there carb intake,so they get leaner,yet keep an elevated source of energy,and maintain higher amounts of [muscle sparring ]protien while preparing for a show.FAT has more calories than carbs or protien.you have to- learn- how to use all three as a fuel source.there's a small science to this.bulking and cutting are to different things when it comes to food[dieting].enough for now,i'm low on carbs.

 

[Tank316]

one more thing which would lead to muscle soreness is the lack of water.this is the key nutrient above fats/carbs and protein.but again i say,they all have a role in creating a good muscle building enviroment.

 

[tiger26]

its nothing.. just give your muscles some rest and it will be fine.. Dont work the sore part as it will slow down your gains

 

[archer]

try 5 g glutamine, 25 g whey and 50 +g carbs post work out, don't forget to stretch and cool down with a light movement for the same muscle group, also try a 50 or 100 rep set (@ 30-40% 1RM) on the day after to get some blood back into the recovering muscle....and take an extra day rest if needed
cheers