My 1-test/4ad/cycle results

[Twin Peak]

600 mg of 1T is a lot. If you are doing that orally, and not getting fast results, something is wrong.

 

[ZECH]

Originally posted by Twin Peak
600 mg of 1T is a lot. If you are doing that orally, and not getting fast results, something is wrong.

I have been taking them with flax oil and my protein intake is about 400g a day. I'm beginning to think it doesn't work. And I have taken 900mg 0f 1-ad a day! This was the pupose of the experiment to see if it worked or not??

 

[Twin Peak]

Sounds very much like it doesn't.

What's the highest level of 1T you have used trans?

I have gone up to 400, which is a very high dose, and I see significant increasings in strength even while I am dieting let alone at 400g of protein.

Save your cash.

 

[ZECH]

I've never went over 12 squirts a day(400). It is my opinion that after a couple weeks you will flatten out in your gains, but at least with the transdermals they have been consistent. The San thing has me puzzled and dissapointed. I had tried Molecular 1-t before and liked it. Got good results. And it has far less dosage. Think my receptors have built a tolerance right now and just are not responding??

 

[Twin Peak]

No, I do not think it is a "tolerance."

Go back to a transdermal and find out.

 

[Robboe]

Since i'm so lazy, how much 1-T does SuperOne+ administer with 6 squirts?

 

[ZECH]

Hmmmmm...........
at 30 days(12 squirts a day) one gives you 200mg a day
super one+ gives you 324.5 a day

 

[Twin Peak]

"HMMMM" my ass.

Don't pretend like you don't have that shit memorized!

 

[ZECH]

Originally posted by dg806
I've never went over 12 squirts a day(400). It is my opinion that after a couple weeks you will flatten out in your gains, but at least with the transdermals they have been consistent. The San thing has me puzzled and dissapointed. I had tried Molecular 1-t before and liked it. Got good results. And it has far less dosage. Think my receptors have built a tolerance right now and just are not responding??

Actually 12 squirts of super one is 324.5 a day instead of 400!

 

[ZECH]

Actually did have to think...........
6000 divided by 30 =200
9375 divided by 30 = 312.5 See screwed up....transposed my numbers!

 

[ZECH]

I have come to the conclusion for many reasons that receptors do get a built up tolerence. Each cycle you do requires more PH to get the same result as last cycle! I think even after many months that your receptors still have a tolerance. They may always stay that way?? I think you can still get growth benifits from them, but the strength increases will never rival the first cycle.

 

[gopro]

Originally posted by dg806
I have come to the conclusion for many reasons that receptors do get a built up tolerence. Each cycle you do requires more PH to get the same result as last cycle! I think even after many months that your receptors still have a tolerance. They may always stay that way?? I think you can still get growth benifits from them, but the strength increases will never rival the first cycle.

Hey! That is what I said

 

[ZECH]

I said it first............go back a few posts!! You just helped me come to the conclusion I was right!

 

[ZECH]

Not to take away from GP.........that was not my intention big guy!! Here is what he said!

Sometimes I worry about those that have done many PH cycles b/c over time the receptors become less and less reactive to them. Just like with steroids, the guys that use them need to take more and more each time they use them to get the same result. Just make sure your body is well rested before you take a new cycle.

 

[gopro]

I was just playing dg my man. I didn't read the posts before mine. I'm sure you had this figured long before we talked.

 

[ZECH]

No No!!! I had some suspicions. But I had always believed from what I knew that after double your time off from cycle that they would be normal. I can just about say now that is not the case! I think it takes MUCH longer. And they may never return to where they where?? I'm like you, I believe the biggest gains will be from the first cycle usually. And maybe the second will be good also. But from there, I believe you start getting diminished results.

 

[JoshH]

i have some SuperOne+ and Boldione on the way to use on my next training cycle, but i don't want to use it if it is gonna put on a lot of extra fat(like the stomach area, looking bloated), does it do that?

 

[Twin Peak]

Food does that, not hormones. To the contrary, you will be able to eat more kcals while on without gaining fat, as it is an effective nutrient partitioner.

 

[JoshH]

ok thanks, just curious cause i'm really lean with almost no body fat and i don't want to sacrifice my low bf to gain muscle. i was taking phosphagen hp for awhile and my stomach was bloated all the damn time. i just want to add muscle without the extra gut.

 

[Twin Peak]

You certainly can, though if you don't allow for some fat gains you will sacrifice some muscle gains.

 

[JoshH]

long as it comes back off i'd like to keep the 6-pack.

 

[freeridert]

whats the full name for 6-oxo? where can you purchace such a product? im thinkin of going on DG's stack. thanks

 

[ZECH]

1fast400.com - also get your 1-ad here

 

[freeridert]

thanks man. is t-bomb a good source for 1-test?
and can i take creatine with it or what?

 

[oaktownboy]

hey dg806, did you experience any side effects during the 1-ad cycle? also, is it better to stack 1-ad with another product or take it by itself?

 

[ZECH]

If you take it at 600mg/day or more, I would definately add some 4/ad in!

 

[ZECH]

Next week...............time to start a new cycle. Hmmmmmmmmm, m1-t, homebrew fina??

 

[Twin Peak]

Been there, done that.

 

[HoldDaMayo]

I just read this thread, very interesting, lots of info... this should be a sticky...

I'm going to stack 1-AD with SuperOne+ I'm not going to do a crazy dosage of 1-AD though, I just want to see how doing a low to moderate dosage of each will work...

 

[ZECH]

Originally posted by Twin Peak
Been there, done that.

I haven't quite decided yet what I want? And I'm not talking Transdermal fina.