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my friend got hurt from doin 100 reps
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100 reps of what?
It is not the method the problem, form I say.
Well maybe he now knows what OVER TRAINING is.
I bet he was going too fast(as you often see people do who are trying to crank out a ridiculous number of reps) and the inertia of the weight probably pulled a muscle.
If you look at the number of rep's he said his friend did in total, it's 400.
I don't believe I could do 400 rep's of just lifting my arm up, much less any weight. Or maybe he was using those little 3 Lb. dog bones.
# At any rate I guess he now sees what 400 rep's can accomplish.
I don't believe I could do 400 rep's of just lifting my arm up, much less any weight. Or maybe he was using those little 3 Lb. dog bones.
# At any rate I guess he now sees what 400 rep's can accomplish.
ForemanRules said:
You are genetically elite, I'm sure its hard for you to believe that the body could possibly still be repairing itself and that someone could get hurt being an idiot. I cringed at the thought of a single set, but 4x100??? I'm with Patrick, thats fucking stupid. Sounds like a young and dumb thing I would have tried.
Who knows what his form was like, or genetics, or etc. I dont think I could train like Ronnie and avoid getting myself into a home for the elderly, then again he is probably on a boatload of GH.
Mudge said:
Are you being sarcastic?? I don't get it?
Foremanrules is a genetic monster or someting?
what do you know that we don't about him?
315x10 on a flat bench while natural is not something I've seen in my life, to my knowlege. I haven't seen but one guy in my current gym even touch 315, besides myself. A friend of mine can do 295x5 at about 185 pounds, which to me is respectable.
Mudge said:
Proof?
My friend who was in 12th grade and graduated could do 305 x 4.
Hey!, I know what he was trying to do, anybody ever seen this. I probably should not post it though, he will see this and hurt himelf again.
The ???German Volume Training??? method is easy to follow. The goal is to do ten sets of ten reps with the same weight for each exercise. You need to start off with a light weight, approximately 50-60% of your 1 rep max weight. For example, if you can squat 300 lbs for 1 rep, then you would use between 150 and 180 lbs for working out with this exercise.
For this workout you do only 1 compound exercise per body part. Some good exercises include:
Chest:
Barbell or Dumbbell bench press
Back:
Barbell rows or Cable rows
Legs:
Squats or Leg press
Shoulders:
Seated barbell or dumbbell press
For smaller muscle groups such as biceps, triceps, calfs, abs, etc. you can do 3 sets of 10-15 reps. (i.e. 3 sets of bicep curls, 3 sets of tricep push downs, 3 sets of calf raises, etc.)
Here is a sample workout schedule that you can follow:
Monday:
Chest & Back
- one exercise for each and do 10 sets of 10 reps
Wednesday:
Legs, calfs, and abs
- 10 sets of 10 reps for legs
- 3 sets of 15+ reps for calfs and abs
Friday:
Shoulders, biceps, and triceps
- 10 sets of 10 reps for shoulders
- 3 sets of 10+ reps for biceps and triceps
Do not workout on Tuesday, Thursday, and weekends. This will give your body plenty of time to rest and grow.
Rest only 60-90 seconds between sets. The first few sets will feel easy, but as you progress through the workout the sets will get harder as you fatigue. When you can complete all 10 sets of 10 reps with good form increase the weight by 5%.
This is supposed to be guarenteed to put 30 Lb. of muscle on you in 6 weeks, Ah Ah - ha ha. Probably put some in the rest home.
The ???German Volume Training??? method is easy to follow. The goal is to do ten sets of ten reps with the same weight for each exercise. You need to start off with a light weight, approximately 50-60% of your 1 rep max weight. For example, if you can squat 300 lbs for 1 rep, then you would use between 150 and 180 lbs for working out with this exercise.
For this workout you do only 1 compound exercise per body part. Some good exercises include:
Chest:
Barbell or Dumbbell bench press
Back:
Barbell rows or Cable rows
Legs:
Squats or Leg press
Shoulders:
Seated barbell or dumbbell press
For smaller muscle groups such as biceps, triceps, calfs, abs, etc. you can do 3 sets of 10-15 reps. (i.e. 3 sets of bicep curls, 3 sets of tricep push downs, 3 sets of calf raises, etc.)
Here is a sample workout schedule that you can follow:
Monday:
Chest & Back
- one exercise for each and do 10 sets of 10 reps
Wednesday:
Legs, calfs, and abs
- 10 sets of 10 reps for legs
- 3 sets of 15+ reps for calfs and abs
Friday:
Shoulders, biceps, and triceps
- 10 sets of 10 reps for shoulders
- 3 sets of 10+ reps for biceps and triceps
Do not workout on Tuesday, Thursday, and weekends. This will give your body plenty of time to rest and grow.
Rest only 60-90 seconds between sets. The first few sets will feel easy, but as you progress through the workout the sets will get harder as you fatigue. When you can complete all 10 sets of 10 reps with good form increase the weight by 5%.
This is supposed to be guarenteed to put 30 Lb. of muscle on you in 6 weeks, Ah Ah - ha ha. Probably put some in the rest home.
That was LAM.ForemanRules said:
Mudge,Mudge said:
First off, I want to acknowledge the skinny, fat, jealous, weak, chemically-enhanced, racists and zero-genetics having idiots on this board who will respond negatively to my response. There are many natural 315X10 bench pressers, but unfortunately because you have lived around majority mediocre genetically people your reality is blurred. HISTORY: I went to an all black high school. My old neighborhood's average income was $10,000, still is. We did NOT have creatine, whey, and strength and speed coaches. None of us could barely afford clothing, much less supplements. BUT, we had 4 guys benching over 375 in high school, NATURALLY. Out of the starting 11, 4 ran 4.4-4.3, 4 ran 4.6 or better and the some other overachievers ran sub 4.8s. I can remember when I was in college a fellow white teammate asked me what type of jumping exercises did I do to get my vertical so high. I told him I did not know there were exercises to help increase your vertical. He was alarmed. Point being, many of my friends could jump higher than me, but this guy did not see people jumping this high on a normal basis. I did. Being around this kind of talent was not unusual for me. Well, since you haven't been around many naturally gifted people, you should not state on this board that it is unlikely that someone is natural if they can bench 315x10. The reason for my rant is I can't even go to my local gym and workout in the mid-400s without people starring at me whispering, 'he's juicing, yeah'. Fu*k them. They are a bunch of jealous fu*cks who would not even be in the gym without prohormones and creatine. Am I against people who are not genetically gifted, no. But I hate the lesser-or-avg-genetics fu*cks making assumptions because they have never seen anyone natural do certain things. BTW, I am not saying that all blacks can bench 500 natural like me. What I am saying is that in my old neighborhood it was not an aberration to be around a lot of naturally gifted people, NOT ALL OF THEM, BUT ALOT OF THEM. BTW, did you see the brother jump over the car to win the dunk contest, on ESPN? I know he isn't natural. Why, because nobody you know can jump that high naturally. - sound familiar-
ekeke said:
If you are "working out" with mid 400s that is extremely rare, if you are "maxing out" with mid 400s that is still rare - but there is a world of difference between the two.
You are taking this completely out of context. Statistically, it is not probable that someone will bench 315x10 naturally. This is a FACT. Is is possible? Of course, there are many amazing things that people have done through the years of recorded history, that are even far more amazing and statistically improbable.
FACT: IT IS UNLIKELY YOU ARE GOING TO ENCOUNTER A PERSON NATURALLY BENCHING 315X10 AT YOUR NORMAL EVERY DAY GYM.
I have lived in various parts of California, and been to various gyms after having trained for technically speaking almost 2 decades. Most of the guys that have impressed me, have been juiced, or soft islanders, or Simi and Simoté who I have talked about on this baord, Simoté looking in awesome shape and being very strong even in his 40s.
Should we define what a gifted person is? Is a gifted person your average every day Joe Nobody? No. A gifted person is someone you are STATISTICALLY UNLIKELY TO ENCOUNTER ON A REGULAR BASIS.
Now if I go into a town of Lumberjacks, or look at a family like Jay Cutler's where he grew up carrying cement bags all the time, he along with the lumberjacks are going to be more physically robust than your average every day city Joe Nobody and I would expect to see more impressive numbers in the gym. Since I have lived in cities, I dont see this kind of prowess on a regular basis.
The immediate city I live in right now is mostly comprised of Mexicans and Whites, hardly the kind of area I'd expect to pump out bigtime benchers. The one other guy I've seen in the gym working with 315, is a mexican about my height and probably around my weight. Most of the others here are very small, as are the white guys.
So some hick farmtown or BFE is hardly what I'd call your average city where any person can expect to walk into a gym and find what you call "naturally gifted." If it is commonplace in your area, they aren't so gifted at all - for your area. Otherwise they dont deserve such a moniker.
In my area, they would indeed be gifted and rare individuals, making it no kind of commonplace at all.
There is a Russian guy in my gym who I've seen do 365 for a single, to me impressive because of its rarity. My last gym was full of juicers, both short and tall. My current gym is full of guys doing 95-155 on the bench.
So in summation, you state at your current gym you can't put up good numbers without being accused of juicing - and yet you talk as if this is not a rare occurence, while at the same time saying they are gifted people? So which is it exactly that you believe? It would be RARE to see a person run a sub 10 second 100M, that would be a gifted person would it not? I sure would say so.
Leading me to expect, to probably never, or perhaps once in my life see such an event from a "regular every day person" who isn't at an event I payed to see.
So if everyone in the world lifted weights religiously and knew what they were doing, and lets say perhaps 2% of those people are able to eventually flat bench press 315x10 clean of drugs and with clean form.
That would make it statistically rare for such a thing to occur, one in every 50 people. Even that is higher than I would expect.
For those with a superior density of myofibrils in their muscles, I envy them.
ForemanRules said:Nice call though
just asking a question
Yes, your memory is good. That series of incidents was years ago at a 24 Hour Fitless, back when I used to be forced to go to the gym around 10:30PM to 1AM. That area was mostly white people and various asians. I would have noted that one of the Samoans was huge, litterally ripping out of his shoes.
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Mudge... aren't guys with big muscles supposed to be dumb? 
well said, sir. well said.
well said, sir. well said.
Just trying to clarify, certainly not argue. I absolutely believe its possible for someone to achieve such a feat, I'm nowhere near thinking that I'm the best anyone could possibly be naturally. Different people have different muscular makeups, some people are large and weak, some are wiry and strong - and some are both large and strong, just as some are small and weak.
But if talent were common, it wouldn't be talent. If gifted were common, it wouldn't be a gift. If many people within a given area are gifted compared to the outside populus, then its a rarity compared to the forementioned outside populus.
Which is to say, I dont see it on an every day basis because I dont live around freaks. Anytime I see someone touch 275 or 295 in the gym, its impressive compared to the rest of the guys I see in there and I respect that they put some time in the gym.
So obviously, where I live 315x1 is not even common. Of course I could start going to Golds if I wanted to fight for equipment.
Anywho.
But if talent were common, it wouldn't be talent. If gifted were common, it wouldn't be a gift. If many people within a given area are gifted compared to the outside populus, then its a rarity compared to the forementioned outside populus.
Which is to say, I dont see it on an every day basis because I dont live around freaks. Anytime I see someone touch 275 or 295 in the gym, its impressive compared to the rest of the guys I see in there and I respect that they put some time in the gym.
So obviously, where I live 315x1 is not even common. Of course I could start going to Golds if I wanted to fight for equipment.
Anywho.
I have lifted for 25 years and here are the best natural Raw lifts I have ever seen.ekeke said:
1. Johny: at 40 he benched 315 for 10 reps......and did that for 3 sets....every set getting ten reps....then he did a easy single with 425.
Johnny was 6'2 and weighed 240. I trained with Johnny for 10 years and he was one of my good friends.
2. Tyrone. my best friend to this day. Tyrone benched 415 in High school....he was 280 at that time....did a raw natural 445 bench at 32.
Tyrone benched 335 for 10 reps....one set only, and he did it easily...he was 270...this was in college
He played one year in the NFL....and blew out his knee.
total genetic freak.................never used steroids in his life!
3. Troy. at 190 he benched 315 for 8 reps naturally and raw....played division 1 football.
4. Roger Rosales: at 142 and 17 he naturally and raw benched 295 in competition....squat of 505 and dead lift of 490.....he competed in Michigan in the mid 1980's ( 1984-86).....you can probably look him up on the net.
other than that I cant say for sure if the people were natural....I do know all the ones I mentioned were.
EDIT: one more...my friend John Z...he could preacher curl 135 for several sets of 8 ( ez curl bar) and he was 175.....he did a seated press behind the neck of 225 for 6 reps also.....18 inch cold arms and he was 5'7.
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